2 out of 8 tracks are vocalless so 75%
It's worth pointing out that Ghosts contains the sound of someone breathing, and repeated requests to "get the door", so technically it is a vocal album. Might not be Trent's finest lyrics, admittedly.
I think I've thought of this before, but I'm also a bit surprised that I didn't post it any sooner. I've always thought that it would've been sweet if there was some way to have worked Now I'm Nothing with Pinion on Broken, and it would've seemed to have nicely fit into it anyway since it definitely has the Gave Up vibe in it. The mere thought of having the end of Now I'm Nothing disrupted with some static sounds into Pinion would've been awesome, but that's just me.
And speaking of Broken, it seems like I would've related to Broken when it first came out along with Now I'm Nothing. I can still recall feeling that way even as young as ages 6-8.
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Looking at it 20+ years later, I wouldn't care how Now I'm Nothing was released, just to get an official recording from that time.
I could see it working well AFTER Pinion, but not before. You could probably make a pretty smooth transition into Wish from NIN, but then you have basically two intro tracks. Although, if you shortened Pinion a bit, led straight into NIN, shortened the outro for NIN and then led right into Wish, that would probably be pretty cool. It would be a shock to hear now, since it's always been followed by Terrible Lie, so they're almost like one song.
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Either way could've also worked out for me when it came to Now I'm Nothing being at the beginning of Broken, but I definitely see what you mean there as well.
Rob Sheridan looks like the plastic bag kid from American Beauty. Every time I see either that movie or just a pic of Rob I can't help but think it.
he looks annoying.
So I joined a NIN group on Facebook, and I kind of see why the generalization of the NIN fan is what it is . . .
I was kind of expecting it to be a Facebook-esque version of ETS, but it's way different.
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The most generalized view that I encounter is that it's people who are generally dissatisfied with life in general, mopey, suicidal, etc. I've been asked by several people, upon finding out NIN is my favorite band, if I like to cut myself. Joking, of course, but I don't think Zeppelin fans get the same question.
There's not much doom and gloom on ETS, so I was kind of surprised to see so much of it over there.
That sounds sort of like teenagers in general, rather than NIN fans in particular. I wonder if that Facebook group tends towards younger fans for some reason. Don't take that as a criticism of teens, and I (at 33) am not exactly satisfied with "life in general" (who is?). But I am a fan of some groups that have generally younger fans, and I'm talking about mainstream pop music, not "dark" stuff - man, those message boards are really depressing sometimes.
Oh god, all those groups make me want to stab myself in the face. I mainly only see them on my feed if @sheepdean comments on one of them. He has the patience of a saint.
I'm in something like 10 of them and they're all full of billpusiphers and the like. But there's also lots of lovely people in there, and more importantly, people who think that "real fans" exist, and who should be shut the fuck down.
My fiance loves NIN too (our first date, and his first ever concert, was LITS), but he told me he won't go to NIN shows with me anymore because NIN fans are "generally assholes".
And... well... I guess I kinda agree... I love a lot of you guys, and I've met some amazing people at shows.
I am sticking to ETS for my online NIN fan needs.
Is it really that bad? I can't believe anyone who was a big fan would let others in the audience stop them going, if you're standing especially you can always move to another position.
It changed a bit in the UK, in 1999 at Brixton Academy the audience was particularly devotional, there was a guy running round the balcony with his shirt off and 'I'm Free' written on his chest, bizarre but no real arseholey behaviour from anyone. In 2005 / 2007 there was a definite increased quota of arseholes - I distinctly remember saying to my sister they should have IQ tests handed out that you have to pass before you're allowed in the show. but it's mellowed since then IMO
I had one of those portable cd players that didn't show number of tracks so I had no idea - it was great when, nearing the end of Broken, my friend and I went to the kitchen to get a cup of tea, and came back to hear You're so Physical playing. It was a real what the fuck moment in the days before Internet, Easter eggs
In Cleveland, some douche was EXTREMELY mad that my "fat ass" wouldn't get out of his way. He kept talking shit, punched me in the back, and pulled my hair a couple of times. But that's the only time I have ever experienced anything like that. I ended up just sticking my ass out EVEN MORE to keep him away. He eventually went elsewhere. Everyone else was behaving like adults. He was the one asshole who was running around, screaming, and hitting people.
I once got crushed by an extremely large woman at one of the Brixton 2007 shows who proceeded to bitch about me shoving back for air. This was right when the band were playing The Fragile and it was the only time I've ever heard that song live. She needs a slap with a trout.
I've had the luck of having had only a great experience with other NIN fans at a show; maybe one of the two I"m going to this year will change my mind, but the Orlando show from last year, at least where I was sitting, was really fantastic. Also, since it was Halloween, almost everyone was dressed up and viewing it as both a NIN show and a big costume party and in general everyone was just in a wonderful mood.
@Sarah K : that's fucking ridiculous! No one did anything about the guy?
Not that I know of. He was only behind me for a few minutes before he went elsewhere. Hopefully someone ended up punching him.
Really though, NIN crowds seem to be about the most respectful up-front crowds that I have experienced. But there always has to be one asshole.
Listening to the Japanese tracklisting for TDS, with Dead Souls on, I really think the album is better that way
I love the Illum Tangendo version with vocals so much. Her voice has so much longing in it and sounds so soft and fragile. Fits perfectly.