Random NIN Thoughts [Archive] - Page 9

Khrz

08-09-2013, 12:00 PM

is it me or are the new songs kinda boring?

Whatever happened to "I don't want to be 50 playing head like a hole"

2 years left I suppose.

He pretty much, to me, has a Radiohead trajectory, for the better or worse, you decide. I remember him saying, about Grizzly Bear : "If I knew I could do that when I started, things would be very different now". And, yeah, he's getting somewhat Grizzly Bear-y I suppose. Not too interested into punching eardrums in the nads anymore, and much more fascinated with details and subtlety. You're totally entitled to find it boring though, but for me, I shed every hope to go back to the old hyper-abrasive NIN and embrace this new sensibility. Even though I wouldn't mind getting my ears violated one last time (I thought the Tetsuo track was fucking mindblowing).

mfte

08-09-2013, 03:21 PM

He pretty much, to me, has a Radiohead trajectory, for the better or worse, you decide. I remember him saying, about Grizzly Bear : "If I knew I could do that when I started, things would be very different now". And, yeah, he's getting somewhat Grizzly Bear-y I suppose. Not too interested into punching eardrums in the nads anymore, and much more fascinated with details and subtlety. You're totally entitled to find it boring though, but for me, I shed every hope to go back to the old hyper-abrasive NIN and embrace this new sensibility. Even though I wouldn't mind getting my ears violated one last time (I thought the Tetsuo track was fucking mindblowing).

Tetsuo was crushing, as well as challenging creatively. I dont care if he keeps making ball busting music anymore. That's not what I mean by boring. PHM wasn't exactly ball busting. What always attracted me to NIN was that he was writing pop songs with noise/industrial/aggressive/experimental leanings. His best works are essentially well written songs through a dirty lens.

I can't say that the new material is on that tier, for the most part. Now I'm not some wavy gravy a-hole that says a good song is only good if you can play it on acoustic guitar BUT I find that the things I really enjoyed about NIN tunes are harder to find. NOW something like Year Zero lacked, at part, what I desire but it made up with the all new sound palate of fancy sounds. New songs dont sound fancy either.

Khrz

08-09-2013, 03:25 PM

Oh, I see, sorry I misinterpreted your definition of "boring" in this case.

gorast

08-10-2013, 02:08 AM

Listening to Zoo Station for the first time in over a year, and damn does it sound good.

The fact that it's a cover is probably why no one talks about it any more, but it sounds a lot better to me now than when it first came out.

pukkelpop

08-10-2013, 04:10 AM

The quote I remember went something like "I don't want to be 50, putting mud on myself at The Sands, having grown old and fat."

Is he 50? No
Is he at The Sands? No
Is he fat? No

I think we're still okay.

year after year it gets more difficult to stay relevant, but god, i hope he never quits again and just stays doing his thang.

Fist Fuck

08-10-2013, 05:44 AM

not sure if its been posted yet but josh eustis is a world of warcraft player -> http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/turalyon/giorgio/advanced and his forum history can be found here -> http://us.battle.net/wow/en/search?f=post&a=giorgio%40turalyon&sort=time

yeah its a bit stalkerish but i couldn't help myself but go take a look after one of the wow community team members was talking about him on twitter the other day.

"we're playing lollapalooza waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat teh f" :d

JamesCmuse

08-10-2013, 09:45 AM

I hold up my phone and tap the button a few times, and put it up. I do that two or three times a show, and if I don't get a good picture, oh well. Now I at least want one or two good pictures of NIN.

That's entirely different to getting pissed off because you're recording every song and expect people to stand still to accommodate you and your camera. Everyone snaps some photos at some point, some people just take cameras too far :)

Edit: I know a lot of people like to do get video recordings of shows on here, but I feel that I must clarify that I'm referring to people who get angry with you and break the atmosphere because of their sheer determination to have something to show from their experience.

all3n_y

08-10-2013, 01:10 PM

I miss Aaron North as the guitar player. Not saying he's better than Robin, but after watching BYIT again I just prefer his playing style.

Ryan

08-10-2013, 05:13 PM

Currently listening to the vinyl version of The Fragile and enjoying the extended versions of the songs. Dat extended La Mer outro.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8440/dzee.jpg

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8440/dzee.jpg

thevoid99

08-10-2013, 08:23 PM

The Fragile needs to be reissued in its expanded format with the vinyl bonus tracks and the "appendage" to "Please" to make it complete.

fuckit

08-10-2013, 08:33 PM

tell me about it. I can't listen to the right side anymore without 10 miles high and the new flesh. those songs make the right side for me.

Ryan

08-10-2013, 08:34 PM

The Fragile needs to be reissued in its expanded format with the vinyl bonus tracks and the "appendage" to "Please" to make it complete.

Agreed. Although it needs to be expanded as much as possible, so basically everything from the vinyl version except for Ripe.

Ripe (With Decay) on re-release, plus all extended vinyl versions, 10 Miles High, The New Flesh and Appendage on re-release plz Trent.

thefragile_jake

08-10-2013, 09:16 PM

So now that we know "Everything" and "Satellite" were intended solely for the Greatest Hits record at first, I wonder if anything extra is going to be included in the Greatest Hits record.

Ryan

08-10-2013, 09:37 PM

So now that we know "Everything" and "Satellite" were intended solely for the Greatest Hits record at first, I wonder if anything extra is going to be included in the Greatest Hits record.

Remixes of those two songs. Trent will troll them.

BenAkenobi

08-11-2013, 12:15 AM

greatest hits will contain just another copy of hesitation marks in its entirety, that'd be "troll them"

NotoriousTIMP

08-11-2013, 09:50 AM

thefragile_jake

08-11-2013, 09:53 AM

Where did you hear/read this?

It was in this article from the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/aug/08/the-nine-lives-of-trent-reznor).

Keen to clear his debt, early in 2012 he set about penning two new songs for the collection, Satellite and Everything. "It felt fresh instead of a chore or a job," he says. "They felt like two different versions of where I might go if I were to start making a record. So I thought: 'Rather than piss these away on a greatest-hits record which nobody cares about, including me, why don't we see if there's an album in there?'"

jessamineny

08-11-2013, 05:19 PM

Oh, Consequence of Sound :D

"@NineInchNails stun with visuals and turtleneck at #OutsideLands"

ryanmcfly

08-11-2013, 11:04 PM

At summer slaughter a few weeks ago, the second disc of the Fragile was played in it's entirety between bands.

Amaro

08-11-2013, 11:55 PM

Just realized how cool HYPERPOWER! sounds going into an Allstate insurance ad.

Spotify wonders.

BRoswell

08-12-2013, 12:24 AM

So nice to finally have a soundboard version of The Downward Spiral (the song, not the album).

Amaro

08-12-2013, 12:26 AM

I am wondering what everyone's favorite Ghost CD/side is...

Mine is 2 (I think).

I gotta compile all of my favorite Ghosts tracks one of these days, into one or two sides.

While I'm on the subject--it has been said that Ghosts 29 is, factually speaking, a great deal of the Goosebumps theme song, right? I mean...right?

totom

08-12-2013, 06:32 AM

Whenever they hopefully release all of the next album's tracks in multitrack form, I already have the concept for my next mashup album...

eversonpoe

08-12-2013, 08:21 AM

So nice to finally have a soundboard version of The Downward Spiral (the song, not the album).

where is this???

Alpha 60

08-12-2013, 08:45 AM

eversonpoe

08-12-2013, 08:53 AM

So Shynola have to be making NIN’s next video, they said they are working with someone they worked with before. Also, TR said he just shot a video and Shynola also just shot a video. Now there is a pic from their twitter and it sure looks like it could be TR on a hospital table.

link to the picture?

on a side note, i'm listening to the Tetsuo theme song for the first time (i know, right? how did i not hear it before) and it is AMAZING. and TERRIFYING. and possibly my favorite instrumental piece trent has ever made.

Vertigo

08-12-2013, 09:19 AM

on a side note, i'm listening to the Tetsuo theme song for the first time (i know, right? how did i not hear it before) and it is AMAZING. and TERRIFYING. and possibly my favorite instrumental piece trent has ever made.

Even umptillion listens later, it still blows my mind. My favourite single track he's ever produced, and I'm still sulking about it not heralding an album full of thoroughly violated classical instruments entwined with blaring synth noise and chainsaw guitars. I've never heard anything quite like it.

Still, shouldn't complain, because we're currently getting an album and tour that're both shaping up to be very special indeed.

slave2thewage

08-12-2013, 09:59 AM

SHYNOLAfilms Shynola 11 Aug
How Shynola operate. Everything will be revealed soon... pic.twitter.com/MyBvPmXmeU

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRYF9CNCUAAi59J.jpg:large

Fist Fuck

08-12-2013, 10:50 AM

SHYNOLAfilms Shynola 11 Aug
How Shynola operate. Everything will be revealed soon... pic.twitter.com/MyBvPmXmeU

Everything will be revealed soon or... "Everything" will be revealed soon?

Nine Inch Nails (https://www.facebook.com/ninofficial) shared a link (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fninein.ch%2FCopyofA&h=WAQHZ453fAQE5NO3_vBxax_x_phM6yX9udwtcV5a9B8Uz_Q&enc=AZPM78hHBPTsSV9i1C8XYDwYa_pl3twTGgIN3bHsEEsrbE kb8cUwiT22jXU_Bf4FeQ7hAMsquFQA2AHeNLc01B_9&s=1).26 minutes ago (https://www.facebook.com/ninofficial/posts/10151810246641221)[/URL]

UK fans: Get a free download of "Copy Of A," a new song from Hesitation Marks, right now, from Amazon UK: [url]http://ninein.ch/CopyofA (https://www.facebook.com/ninofficial#)

No mention of "Copy Of A" being the new single, just a "new song from HM". Also, Everything was supposed to be premiered live, and it was written for the Greatest Hits record, so it does have single potential. Hm...

BRoswell

08-12-2013, 11:53 AM

where is this???

http://reflectinginthechrome.com/shows/2009/20090621.html

eversonpoe

08-12-2013, 12:05 PM

http://reflectinginthechrome.com/shows/2009/20090621.html

oh, thanks!

i actually already downloaded that one and haven't gotten around to listening to it yet. i feel silly. :p

brokenfragility

08-12-2013, 12:14 PM

I really hope it is "Everything" and not Copy Of A. I agree with everyone that Copy Of A doesn't sound like much of a single...its fantastic though. I just want to hear other new songs. NAO.

mfte

08-12-2013, 12:52 PM

hearing the album version over live of copyofa, im feeling alot better about this whole thing

binaryhermit

08-12-2013, 01:17 PM

Kermit the Frog singing "Hurt" > Trent Reznor singing "Hurt"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ta7mkgrOU

brokenfragility

08-12-2013, 01:19 PM

Kermit the Frog singing "Hurt" > Trent Reznor singing "Hurt"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ta7mkgrOU

That is AMAZING.

hobochic

08-12-2013, 01:25 PM

AlanMorlock

08-12-2013, 02:53 PM

I've seen a lot of people ripping on the Copy of A artwork, but no comments about the fact that the artwork is actually featured as part of the vinyl cover for the album. Do the rest of the thumbnails included on the vinyl cover correspond to songs as well?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Ud1nhrOIL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/11fa6b2d7f4b76d25518f4d692eb3773/tumblr_mrfdr4x83T1qga7lvo1_500.jpg

gorast

08-12-2013, 03:03 PM

I hope not. If the digital release has unique track art for each song again, I'd rather have exclusive art instead of snippets of the vinyl cover.

AlanMorlock

08-12-2013, 03:16 PM

Well I mean its not like the Copy of A art is just cropped out of the vinyl cover. The vinyl is simply made up of other art work.

imail724

08-12-2013, 03:21 PM

I've seen a lot of people ripping on the Copy of A artwork, but no comments about the fact that the artwork is actually featured as part of the vinyl cover for the album. Do the rest of the thumbnails included on the vinyl cover correspond to songs as well?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Ud1nhrOIL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/11fa6b2d7f4b76d25518f4d692eb3773/tumblr_mrfdr4x83T1qga7lvo1_500.jpgI knew I had seen it before! Couldn't for the life of me place where I saw it.

Vertigo

08-12-2013, 03:45 PM

I've seen a lot of people ripping on the Copy of A artwork, but no comments about the fact that the artwork is actually featured as part of the vinyl cover for the album. Do the rest of the thumbnails included on the vinyl cover correspond to songs as well?

I thought it looked familiar! Nicely spotted. I'm not sure about the others, but they certainly haven't been used as covers yet. The one with the girl on the right looks familiar - a Survivalism clip maybe? And from the little I can make out of the bottom right image, it looks like something out of the Broken movie. There are some rather Ghosty-looking landscape pictures, though they aren't any that've been released (the yellowish right-centre one looks very much like the grass-on-sand Ghosts art, but on closer inspection it seems to be all rock, mud or sea).

Anyway. I'd imagine a lot of it may end up in the HM deluxe edition's art book.

Fist Fuck

08-12-2013, 04:16 PM

How could we have missed this? Nice. I'd love the idea that each track has a snippet of the vinyl cover art. If so, Copy of A having a cover art doesn't automatically make it a single, because every track would have a different artwork. The chances of Everything being the new single/video have just increased by 27%.

thefragile_jake

08-12-2013, 04:21 PM

SHYNOLAfilms Shynola 11 Aug
How Shynola operate. Everything will be revealed soon... pic.twitter.com/MyBvPmXmeU

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRYF9CNCUAAi59J.jpg:large

I looked back at some of Shynola's tweets and they made a comment about three weeks ago that they made a music video with "someone they've worked with before" and it should be out in about 4 weeks.

So looks like we may be seeing this next week or perhaps later this week? I really hope it comes out this week, if it turns out they're going to use "Everything"...I can't wait to hear it!

Ryan

08-12-2013, 06:40 PM

I've seen a lot of people ripping on the Copy of A artwork, but no comments about the fact that the artwork is actually featured as part of the vinyl cover for the album. Do the rest of the thumbnails included on the vinyl cover correspond to songs as well?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Ud1nhrOIL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/11fa6b2d7f4b76d25518f4d692eb3773/tumblr_mrfdr4x83T1qga7lvo1_500.jpg

I thought everyone noticed that! Glad you posted about it though.

Scarlet Siren

08-13-2013, 06:18 AM

^^^^ Same here.

In addition to the show I'm REALLY looking to finally meeting other NIN fans... :D

Shadaloo

08-13-2013, 09:44 AM

Any evidence for an element of the CBH artwork being up there in that collage? I looked but didn't see anything. Christ I'd love a full Russell Mills artbook...

theimage13

08-13-2013, 02:57 PM

Finished up a tour last week: one of our guys is booked for NIN.

Start a new short tour this week: two more of the guys are booked on NIN.

Universe, you're a teasing bitch.

danzo_rezno

08-13-2013, 03:09 PM

This arrived today :)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1116273_704371959589378_355139646_o.jpg?

screwdriver

08-13-2013, 03:12 PM

This arrived today :)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1116273_704371959589378_355139646_o.jpg?

how is that? I've always thought about getting.

dlb

08-13-2013, 03:33 PM

since people talk about these two songs again I listened to the rehearsal versions of "sunspots" and "all the love in the world" a couple of times and I genuinely enjoy both of them. God knows why they were never performed live on any occasion. With a little bit of tweeking they sound pretty much like the album version and have the potential to become nice little live gems by now.

The Reason Being

08-13-2013, 04:04 PM

^ For me the high notes are sung a bit awkwardly, which is fine as they are rehearsals and never meant to be released but yeah that always stopped me from really enjoying those two.

As for the Copy of A artwork being from the vinyl, it was the first thing I noticed, I just figured everyone else did too and wasn't worth mentioning. Being one of the people who "ripped on the artwork", I don't like the vinyl artwork either. It's something i'd expect from 25 year old Manson's buddy Trent, not 48 year old married with kids Trent. Yeah i'm probably missing the point and will stop bitching now. Love the new music.

Ripe(withdecay)

08-13-2013, 05:56 PM

I bought these two shirts last night!

http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2590/images/200x200/t-shirt-nine-inch-nails-sin-white-shr.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41mBw86c9XL._SX466_.jpg

thefragile_jake

08-13-2013, 06:39 PM

I really like the lyrics to "Disappointed"...especially more so now that I know he didn't rhyme 'change' with 'change'.

dlb

08-13-2013, 07:37 PM

^ For me the high notes are sung a bit awkwardly, which is fine as they are rehearsals and never meant to be released but yeah that always stopped me from really enjoying those two.

That's my very thought when I first heard these in 2008, but for some reason it doesn't bother me anymore and I enjoy them alot. At least sunspots could be a great track live if he changed his vocal tone a bit. all the love in the world on the other hand I can sense why it was never officially played live. Within the context of a show that song might be a tad to quiet and yet again not quiet enough to assure that the audience stays the same like during hurt or lights in the sky. It's an odd track, but I love it as the opener for with teeth and the added piano to this year's live version of the way out is through reminds me of that song, so that's why I kept revisiting it more than I did in the past.

gorast

08-13-2013, 07:47 PM

That's my very thought when I first heard these in 2008, but for some reason it doesn't bother me anymore and I enjoy them alot. At least sunspots could be a great track live if he changed his vocal tone a bit. all the love in the world on the other hand I can sense why it was never officially played live. Within the context of a show that song might be a tad to quiet and yet again not quiet enough to assure that the audience stays the same like during hurt or lights in the sky. It's an odd track, but I love it as the opener for with teeth and the added piano to this year's live version of the way out is through reminds me of that song, so that's why I kept revisiting it more than I did in the past.

You know, I think it would be a really cool opening to a show if the stage was pitch black, you're not really expecting the show to start, and then the drum machine starts up, a spotlight shines, and there's Trent singing "Watching all the insects march along..."

I don't know. A lot of people seem to have a fairly low opinion of W_T here, but I adore the album so, so much. It would be the best thing if he broke out some of the deep cuts from W_T during the Tension tour.

The Reason Being

08-13-2013, 07:50 PM

I loved With Teeth (the song) live. Something tells me most people don't though, but thats one I would definitely like to see return.

Although what made the song great live was arguably Aaron's guitar during the quiet middle section. So good..

dlb

08-13-2013, 07:53 PM

Seeing as it is followed by you know what you are on the album there could be pretty much any other hard hitting NIN song coming after it during a live show. I'm all about with teeth myself and would rank it as my second favorite NIN album after the fragile. It may not be the best, but I listen to it alot as it flows so well and feels rather short.

the line begins to blur is a song that I'd love to hear more often, aswell as getting smaller (I give a shit about flip flop flip :P ).

Ryan

08-13-2013, 08:36 PM

I just now noticed that the voice in Fist Fuck (i.e. "heart of fire... let your heart, beat...") sounds like the voice of Shao Kahn from the Mortal Kombat video games.

bgalbraith

08-13-2013, 09:36 PM

When I first heard Copy of A, the chord progression during the chorus reminded me of something.. and today I realized it was the background music from Mega Man 2 - Dr Wily stage 3-5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COQReMbWYqY). Even the beat is vaguely similar.

scorpiusdiamond

08-14-2013, 04:21 AM

So uh, no new video yet then?

Fist Fuck

08-14-2013, 04:54 AM

So uh, no new video yet then?

Soon......

Scarlet Siren

08-14-2013, 05:00 AM

I must resist reading that album review... must resist it!

ImTheWiseJanitor

08-14-2013, 08:50 AM

"Demon Seed" needs to make its debut during Tension 2013. It would be TOO perfect with the new lineup.

dlb

08-14-2013, 08:55 AM

I must resist reading that album review... must resist it!

Don't be afraid to do so. There are no spoilers and it will definitely get you hyped even more! ;)

Prettybrokenspiral

08-14-2013, 09:00 AM

Please play 'Maybe Just Once' this tour.

Just once.

Mutilated

08-14-2013, 01:20 PM

Just listened to my .wav download of Copy Of A and holy crap it sounds divine. Fantastic stuff.

GavinCollins420

08-14-2013, 01:28 PM

I am loving The Greater Good right now. Damn groovy.

elevenism

08-14-2013, 01:45 PM

man i am excited about the new album, and yes i will go to the show, but God Damn...there sure isn't much about this setlist that has changed. Same old songs since 94 except a couple of new ones for this album or that one. i was expecting something different somehow.
dont get me wrong. im still thrilled. the setlist so far is a little underwhelming though.

WorzelG

08-14-2013, 02:33 PM

*ignore stuck in random questions instead*

dominik

08-14-2013, 02:46 PM

I bought these two shirts last night!

http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2590/images/200x200/t-shirt-nine-inch-nails-sin-white-shr.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41mBw86c9XL._SX466_.jpg

where's the right one from?

Ripe(withdecay)

08-14-2013, 03:32 PM

where's the right one from?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OUW9TS/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

thefragile_jake

08-14-2013, 07:01 PM

ImTheWiseJanitor

08-14-2013, 07:19 PM

I'm sure it'll change. We'll see MUCH longer sets, I imagine. Maybe not SUPER long, but Trent seems to like to perform for extended periods when it comes to their headlining shows.

Also, I can't let it go. That video for "Came Back Haunted" would benefit SO MUCH from having the full version of the song. That abrupt shift from the intro to the first verse just doesn't sound good.

elevenism

08-14-2013, 09:27 PM

I'm sure it'll change. We'll see MUCH longer sets, I imagine. Maybe not SUPER long, but Trent seems to like to perform for extended periods when it comes to their headlining shows.

I hope you're right, jake and alrea. and the reason i logged on is to amend and or defend that post....
im THRILLED that NIN is touring again, it's fucking awesome. and i got broken at 12 yrs old when it came out...im a legitimate nin nerd.
So dont get me wrong. But good god, i dont need another "greatest hits" show. The LITS show (lights aside...i would have watched that shit with the fucking Monkees playing) had a much more interesting setlist. I just...trent said some things about rethinking what nin could be, and to me, that is NOT playing head like a hole and terrible lie and closer and hurt.

And Alrea, i sure am hoping this is just the first leg of the tour. it almost has to be. SURELY they'll play tulsa and dallas etc

ImTheWiseJanitor

08-14-2013, 10:52 PM

Well, the festival shows have almost always been consistently singles and a few new digs, plus a couple random songs peppered in. Looking at the festival run of setlists really doesn't tell us much at all about what headlining show setlists will be like. :P It may have the same number of singles, minus one or two, but they make up for it by generally playing a few selections from all over the catalog.

What I really wanna know is how much variation there'll be between Tension 2013 shows. I imagine that due to the stage production, they're pretty limited, but the last time we saw NIN perform was on a tour that probably had the most diverse setlists in NIN history from show to show, so maybe Trent will try to keep some of that going by switching things up a liiittle more night to night.

Even if that's not the case, I'm still stoked. Ready to have another memory and another tour poster on my wall!

Edit: "Find My Way" is one of my favorite NIN tracks ever. I can't WAIT to hear that baby on record.

captainbeyond

08-14-2013, 11:02 PM

thatguymark

08-14-2013, 11:45 PM

Well, while us NIN internet nerds would love a set of b-sides and fairly obscure album tracks, you've got to remember that at any given show, the majority of the crowd is seeing the band for the first time. It would be a shame to rob them of the chance to see Head Like A Hole, Terrible Lie, Closer or Hurt. Of course if any or all of those are missing from the shows I see, I'm 100% okay with that, but there will be a large contingent of the crowd that would leave the show very disappointed. The fact is, I'm guessing the arena shows WILL feature sets largely similar to what's being played at the festivals. However, the shows will almost certainly be at least half an hour longer and what's done with that extra time is what could please us die hards. No need to add any more popular songs for the masses. Give us half an hour of the stuff we haven't heard a thousand times and that will balance out the familiar stuff and leave everyone happy.

all3n_y

08-15-2013, 12:33 AM

Well I just heard Appendage for the first time today. MY GOD....

Ryan

08-15-2013, 12:47 AM

well i just heard appendage for the first time today. My god....

i'm goin down!

Ryan

08-15-2013, 12:48 AM

Just listened to Tetsuo for the first time after seeing it mentioned a thousand times on here. I was just under the impression it was a T-Rez remix of something or something from a score and I didn't recognize the title. Was it released as Nine Inch Nails (as its listed on youtube)?

Its amazing. Its like Ghosts part V.

It's credited as NIN, yes.

http://www.ninwiki.com/Tetsuo

It is notable as not only the first new Nine Inch Nails track since The Slip (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Slip)'s release 2 years earlier, but also the first NIN release to have no involvement from Alan Moulder (http://www.ninwiki.com/Alan_Moulder) since "Burn (http://www.ninwiki.com/Burn_(song))" came out in 1994.

Prettybrokenspiral

08-15-2013, 01:11 AM

Alan Moulder should be inducted into the rock n' roll hall of fame for his musical contributions.

Khrz

08-15-2013, 05:41 AM

I was just under the impression it was a T-Rez remix of something or something from a score and I didn't recognize the title.

He's clearly re-using elements from/for the HTDA track "parasite", so that may be the reason why it sounds familiar.

Ryan

08-15-2013, 05:45 AM

http://i.imgur.com/PZM3N.jpg

Vertigo

08-15-2013, 05:48 AM

Seen that many times and it never fails to crack me up.

OSLIN

08-15-2013, 09:07 AM

dlb

08-15-2013, 09:14 AM

I like to think that this might be his last proper album but that we will see some more music (EPs, single songs under the NIN name) over the years. He should defnitely go down the route of scoring and producing more if he's really that concerned about his age and relevance as he likes to hint every now and then.

Trent is full of surprises and I believe we will hear a lot from him in the future. This is barely the end. Not for NIN and never for Trent.

pigpen

08-15-2013, 09:19 AM

I think the fact that he's already tried to walk away from it, even going as far as having a "WAVE GOODBYE" tour, and yet couldn't leave it alone
speaks volumes. I mean, obviously he knows his limitations as a live performer, but I do expect music to continue to be made by TR and under
the umbrella of Nine Inch Nails. Like I said before, I think it'd be great if he made a whole tour out of The Bridge School/Still type live format.
Cellos, Piano, Acoustic guitars, electronic drum tracks, etc. Yeah, it'd be leaving the whole stadium thing behind, but I think it could be a
great way to breathe new life into the music..

tony.parente

08-15-2013, 09:20 AM

Who thinks Hesitation Marks will be a farewell album for NIN?

It's sad to think about, but I'm thinking it could be.
I know there are artists who have released albums well into their 50's, but we have always known TR to be a quality over quantity type of guy.
Plus a young family and other opportunities (scoring, producing), I think this may be the last time we ever see new NIN.

NIN will never go away, maybe in a touring sense but it'll never stop I don't think.
If anything we'll get one more "rock" record and then he'll slowly start releasing still type records IMO.

I think he will realize after this touring cycle that a lot of the stuff he's singing isn't as relevant anymore.

"26 years on my way to hell" was sung over 20 years ago.

dominik

08-15-2013, 09:24 AM

Aaaand there we go! Passive-aggressive Trent who is never missing an opportunity to tell us how much he hates Europe is back. Woohoo.

eversonpoe

08-15-2013, 10:30 AM

Aaaand there we go! Passive-aggressive Trent who is never missing an opportunity to tell us how much he hates Europe is back. Woohoo.

??? what are you talking about?

dominik

08-15-2013, 10:36 AM

??? what are you talking about?

http://instagram.com/p/dB-h1kzPci/

ryanmcfly

08-15-2013, 10:45 AM

I don't think this is the last NIN album. I think he remembered how much he loves making music under the NIN moniker. I'd like to think that he still goes back and does a YZ2. He's never going to make a noisy album like TDS again, but he doesn't have to.

Amaro

08-15-2013, 10:54 AM

I don't believe HM will be the last NIN release, but it'll be one of the last. :rolleyes:

OSLIN

08-15-2013, 11:10 AM

Aaaand there we go! Passive-aggressive Trent who is never missing an opportunity to tell us how much he hates Europe is back. Woohoo.

I think he's just pointing out that every Festival show they've done this tour has been rainy/overcast on the day they are set to perform.

tony.parente

08-15-2013, 11:19 AM

I hope that before trent is done with music that we get one more track that's as heavy/aggressive/guitar oriented as Burn.

Amaro

08-15-2013, 11:23 AM

I hope he does a Flock of Seagulls cover before it's all over.

OSLIN

08-15-2013, 11:32 AM

I hope he does a Flock of Seagulls cover before it's all over.

He already did. It's the Running track on HM. Surprise!

Shadaloo

08-15-2013, 11:39 AM

I hope against hope on the last show ever, Maybe Just Once closes out the setlist.

Fist Fuck

08-15-2013, 11:41 AM

I think he's just pointing out that every Festival show they've done this tour has been rainy/overcast on the day they are set to perform.

Also, I've always had the feeling that he hates spending summer in Europe. They're usually touring Europe in summer because it's festival season, which means he often missed nice sunny California summer and had to spend it in rainy and cold (although Europe isn't really this rainy and cold, just when Trent is here, I guess) Europe.

Good thing I'll see them in Italy, the weather's usually nice there. And there are no stupid festival people, crews and german bands.

dominik

08-15-2013, 12:12 PM

I think he's just pointing out that every Festival show they've done this tour has been rainy/overcast on the day they are set to perform.

Nah, he does that every time they start the European leg. Last time he wrote on twitter "After the first days in Europe is it bad that I already want to go home?" or something like that. While Rob, for example, seems to appreciate it when he's in Europe, Trent's just pointing out the things that piss him off.

edit: also, this generalising.. they are in Belgium and write "Welcome to Europe". Well, it's a LITTLE bit bigger and more diverse than that. But I guess we Europeans are the same when it comes to the US.

Fist Fuck

08-15-2013, 12:21 PM

Nah, he does that every time they start the European leg. Last time he wrote on twitter "After the first days in Europe is it bad that I already want to go home?" or something like that. While Rob, for example, seems to appreciate it when he's in Europe, Trent's just pointing out the things that piss him off.

edit: also, this generalising.. they are in Belgium and write "Welcome to Europe". Well, it's a LITTLE bit bigger and more diverse than that. But I guess we Europeans are the same when it comes to the US.

This. Glad to see some things never change, though. On the other hand, you'd think a guy like Trent would love Europe, since we don't have a lot of thinge he's always critiziced about 'Murica. He's probably just always got the wrong impression of Europe, especially in the German speaking countries because of shitty festivals, bands, crews, people, fans (or lack thereof) and promoters.

botley

08-15-2013, 12:36 PM

I get the feeling that Trent has much more fun in Japan than anywhere else.

tw3rbz

08-15-2013, 12:38 PM

I get the feeling that Trent has much more fun in Japan than anywhere else.
I agree, he has said he loves japan and if america kicks him out someday he hopes that Japan will take him in, then he played Capital G

hobochic

08-15-2013, 12:39 PM

I have more fun in Japan than anywhere else.

And I don't think it's NIN's last album at all. I think what he's doing with Hesitation Marks is redefining what NIN can be, and for him to be able to develop NIN as he ages.

Scarlet Siren

08-15-2013, 12:41 PM

Well I just heard Appendage for the first time today. MY GOD....

Never be enough...
Never be enough...
Never be enough...
Never be enough!!!

That's probably my most played song this week! Had in on a few days back having not heard it for a while and it's been playing it heavily since then.

Fred

08-15-2013, 12:48 PM

This. Glad to see some things never change, though. On the other hand, you'd think a guy like Trent would love Europe, since we don't have a lot of thinge he's always critiziced about 'Murica. He's probably just always got the wrong impression of Europe, especially in the German speaking countries because of shitty festivals, bands, crews, people, fans (or lack thereof) and promoters.

Exactly. Europe is arguably a lot more diverse than the U.S. I want to call myself "European", but it's an odd label when there are so many other cultures on the continent whose traits aren't shared by the culture of your home country.

For what it's worth, the one time I've seen the band live (Roskilde Festival 2009), he seemed to enjoy himself.

Merriweather

08-15-2013, 12:48 PM

Who thinks Hesitation Marks will be a farewell album for NIN?

It's sad to think about, but I'm thinking it could be.
I know there are artists who have released albums well into their 50's, but we have always known TR to be a quality over quantity type of guy.
Plus a young family and other opportunities (scoring, producing), I think this may be the last time we ever see new NIN.

It won't be the last album, and likely not the last tour, but I can see him scaling back.

I doubt TR wants to be still touring when he's 60 or 70 like the Who or the Rolling Stones.

Fist Fuck

08-15-2013, 01:00 PM

It won't be the last album, and likely not the last tour, but I can see him scaling back.

I doubt TR wants to be still touring when he's 60 or 70 like the Who or the Rolling Stones.

This will not be his last tour. He would have announced that he's coming back for just one tour. Also, from 2010 - 2013 he's released more music in such a short amount of time than like the entire last decade. He'll always make music.

Hell, I wouldn't even mind seeing him on a "Trent and the piano" tour 20 years from now.

skullboy0

08-15-2013, 02:11 PM

Hell, I wouldn't even mind seeing him on a "Trent and the piano" tour 20 years from now.

I wonder why he hasn't done something like this. After the 2007 tour he said "at this point, I want to switch things around a bit. Nine Inch Nails as a rock band configuration, we've done it and we've done it again. I see other ways I can present the material in concert, more challenging, something new. I don't want it to go stale." (http://theninhotline.net/archives/articles/manager/display_article.php?id=438) & with the exception of the "The Warning" through "The Greater Good" segment of the LITS tour & some of the stuff on the current tour, it's largely been "Nine Inch Nails as a rock band configuration".

ryanmcfly

08-15-2013, 02:30 PM

I want to see them rework more older songs like they did with Sanctified.

Fist Fuck

08-15-2013, 02:41 PM

I wonder why he hasn't done something like this. After the 2007 tour he said "at this point, I want to switch things around a bit. Nine Inch Nails as a rock band configuration, we've done it and we've done it again. I see other ways I can present the material in concert, more challenging, something new. I don't want it to go stale." (http://theninhotline.net/archives/articles/manager/display_article.php?id=438) & with the exception of the "The Warning" through "The Greater Good" segment of the LITS tour & some of the stuff on the current tour, it's largely been "Nine Inch Nails as a rock band configuration".

Yes. I understand that the popular singles are best presented in this rock band confirguration, but how awesome would a "Still" section be? Acoustic, rare songs, reworked songs on piano. Even Hurt could be played in this setting, along with And All That Could Have Been, other instrumentals and Ghosts etc.

One can dream. Maybe one day.

nobies

08-15-2013, 02:46 PM

Never be enough...
Never be enough...
Never be enough...
Never be enough!!!

That's probably my most played song this week! Had in on a few days back having not heard it for a while and it's been playing it heavily since then.
Great song. Btw does anyone have a copy of it that doesn't sound like it's coming out of an 83 lincoln continental?

EndlessLoveless

08-15-2013, 03:34 PM

^^Right!! I think all copies are originally from the tape. I refuse to put it on my ipod because it sounds so different quality-wise than the rest of the fragile album, it just doesnt mix well. Until TR gives us the remastered fragile, im pretty sure it doesnt exist in a high quality format.

EndlessLoveless

08-15-2013, 03:36 PM

^^And hopefully, he even puts it on the remastered version.^^

jessamineny

08-15-2013, 03:44 PM

This will not be his last tour. He would have announced that he's coming back for just one tour. Also, from 2010 - 2013 he's released more music in such a short amount of time than like the entire last decade. He'll always make music.

After all the shit he got for calling a not-last-tour his last tour, I really don't think he'll ever do that again (even if it is the last tour).

dominik

08-15-2013, 04:38 PM

After all the shit he got for calling a not-last-tour his last tour, I really don't think he'll ever do that again (even if it is the last tour).

He got shit? Where?

edit: I mean from who

Pyract

08-15-2013, 08:55 PM

Great song. Btw does anyone have a copy of it that doesn't sound like it's coming out of an 83 lincoln continental?

^^Right!! I think all copies are originally from the tape. I refuse to put it on my ipod because it sounds so different quality-wise than the rest of the fragile album, it just doesnt mix well. Until TR gives us the remastered fragile, im pretty sure it doesnt exist in a high quality format.

I just ripped it from my own cassette fairly recently, I think it sounds pretty good but I haven't compared it with any of the copies floating about. I'll upload it tonight when I get off of work.

Scarlet Siren

08-15-2013, 08:59 PM

I want to hear Now I'm Nothing at some point over the next fortnight (Scala in particular!).... please, pretty PLEASE!!!

AlanMorlock

08-15-2013, 11:18 PM

Instead of aging, Trent Reznor has transformed into a linebacker.

http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/f2e8472a051411e3b83c22000a9e184f_7.jpg

slave2thewage

08-15-2013, 11:21 PM

Watching that "NIN and the Industrial Uprising" documentary on YouTube. I want to slap that asshole who says With Teeth was "the first proper Nine Inch Nails album since The Downward Spiral". RUDE, RUDE, RUDE.

r_z

08-16-2013, 05:36 AM

I wonder why he hasn't done something like this.

Because his balls aren't the size of Bowie's, obviously.

Indefinite_Cure

08-16-2013, 08:27 AM

Wow! #NINSCALA is the top trending topic on twitter :P

marodi

08-16-2013, 03:46 PM

NIN is playing Head Like A Hole right now and Trent got confused with the lyrics. After "God money's not looking for a cure, God money's not concerned about..." it's supposed to be "something's going to get broken".

Slight memory laps, I guess.

Vertigo

08-16-2013, 04:00 PM

For the Disappointed music video, they should just play live footage from the Scala show.

#ninscala... *grumbles and sulks*

howdidislipinto

08-16-2013, 04:22 PM

I'm so tired of the word leak. There's got to be a better way of expression our excitement.

Amaro

08-16-2013, 05:14 PM

I want so much wetness I can lap it up. Dribble that shit into my ear holes, preferably in full stereo.

tony.parente

08-16-2013, 05:17 PM

I'm so tired of the word leak. There's got to be a better way of expression our excitement.

I wish this album would prematurely release.

howdidislipinto

08-16-2013, 05:49 PM

I know you're both joking, but isn't that SO much better?? I love a good innuendo!

Ryan

08-16-2013, 05:59 PM

The PHM remaster sounds so sexy.

blassster

08-16-2013, 06:35 PM

I want so much wetness I can lap it up. Dribble that shit into my ear holes, preferably in full stereo.

Whenever I see your avatar in the corner of my eye while reading posts, I keep seeing Cartman's head.

I hope we get some multitracks. I have a partial idea for a CBH remix. I am wondering why there is no 5.1 mix for some releases vs others, but I'm not complaining. Probably multiple factors. If we get multis, I'm sure someone from here can blow us away with their work again. Fuck I love ETS.

I had a meeting with someone, their first name and middle name was Michael Trent, I cracked up before I got there.

Scarlet Siren

08-16-2013, 07:18 PM

It still tickles me that Michael Jackson was in to TDS.... in a big way! (according to his engineers on Dangerous/HIStory on GearSlutz). You just have to listen to 'Morphine' to hear the inspiration :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p31LZ_QN-o4

Recorded during the HIStory era circa 1994-95 One of my favourite MJ song EVER! One of the grittiest thing he's ever recorded.

I don't give a flying fucking rats arse about what you've to say about MJ and his personal life but ... the 'Demerol' section reminds me of Mr. Self Destruct. Listen, I want to know you're thoughts on this :)

OSLIN

08-16-2013, 07:38 PM

I don't give a flying fucking rats arse about what you've to say about MJ and his personal life but ... the 'Demerol' section reminds me of Mr. Self Destruct. Listen, I want to know you're thoughts on this :)

I don't know about that, but Dirty Diana kicks ass.

Scarlet Siren

08-16-2013, 07:45 PM

I don't know about that, but Dirty Diana kicks ass.

Dirty Diana is my SIGNATURE/ultimate MJ songs. Steve Stevens FFS! <3

I used to co-admin one of the most popular MJ boards on the web prior- 2009 :)

OSLIN

08-16-2013, 07:54 PM

Dirty Diana is my SIGNATURE/ultimate MJ songs. Steve Stevens FFS! <3

I used to co-admin one of the most popular MJ boards on the web prior- 2009 :)

Have you heard the cover by The Weeknd? It's fucking fucktastic!

jessamineny

08-16-2013, 07:55 PM

Finck posts a picture of what looks like a carnival tent on Instgram, with the caption: "Guess what happened in here?"

First response: "Ass play"

El-oh-el ;)

tiempo

08-16-2013, 08:04 PM

My little piece of Nothing...

http://s17.postimg.org/zen0bmzfv/download.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/zen0bmzfv/)

I miss the NOLA NIN days of old. I was finally able to see the building from the outside in 2009 and must of looked like a madman prying this loose from the side of it - right near the garage entrance on Jena.
A partial dream come true. What I would have given to have seen the inside when it was Nothing Studios...

theimage13

08-16-2013, 08:11 PM

tiempo

08-16-2013, 08:17 PM

Any creepier than Trent taking the Sharon Tate door? That was still there in New Orleans.

Frozen Beach

08-16-2013, 08:19 PM

Yeah, I don't see how that's creepy. People own pieces of the Berlin Wall, and that's not creepy. It's just piece of history, not a photo album of Trent's kids or anything.

tiempo

08-16-2013, 08:21 PM

I didn't jackhammer it off the building. There was some construction when I was there, and it is about the size of my cell phone.

butter_hole

08-16-2013, 08:34 PM

you can actually buy pieces of the fireplace from the TDS studio / tate house if you REALLY wanna cross a questionable moral line.

screwdriver

08-16-2013, 08:36 PM

tiempo

08-16-2013, 08:53 PM

you can actually buy pieces of the fireplace from the TDS studio / tate house if you REALLY wanna cross a questionable moral line.

No thanks. Agreed that is way over the questionable line, at least it is for me. Bothered me to see the door. I will always see the heartbreaking picture of Roman sitting next to it from LIFE magazine.

Nothing Studios might have once been a funeral home years ago, but it is New Orleans, and probably used to be a ton of other business's as well. To me it used to be one of the greatest studios in the US, and was home to a great deal of my "Desert Island" music, which is why I have the souvenir.

MrSlfDstruct

08-16-2013, 09:05 PM

Is the door still there or did the current owners have it changed?

Amaro

08-16-2013, 10:15 PM

Time to blast The Fragile.

butter_hole

08-17-2013, 12:31 AM

Is the door still there or did the current owners have it changed?
iirc trent took it with him

ZeroisGreg

08-17-2013, 12:33 AM

art inspired by Russel Mills. paint in a jar.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/iotnhuki69/DSC_5124_resize.jpg

Prettybrokenspiral

08-17-2013, 01:07 AM

you can actually buy pieces of the fireplace from the TDS studio / tate house if you REALLY wanna cross a questionable moral line.

*crosses line*

Tell me more...

butter_hole

08-17-2013, 01:54 AM

*crosses line*

Tell me more...
http://www.findadeath.com/fadstore/store.html

scroll down to Sharon's Stone

far as i know it's legit

Prettybrokenspiral

08-17-2013, 02:47 AM

http://www.findadeath.com/fadstore/store.html

scroll down to Sharon's Stone

far as i know it's legit

Don't see how that's any worse than Trent recording the greatest album ever in the Manson family murders house and then taking the door with him :confused:

thefragile_jake

08-17-2013, 03:06 AM

Have you heard the cover by The Weeknd? It's fucking fucktastic!

Just as on par with the original I'd say!

dominik

08-17-2013, 06:28 AM

ItsJustDave

08-17-2013, 06:53 AM

iirc trent took it with him

I know Trent took the door from LA to NOLA (when they demolished the Tate house), but my understanding is he didn't take it with him when he left NOLA. Whether it's still on the old studio is another question.

eversonpoe

08-17-2013, 08:36 AM

I finally got to listen to Copy of A and Came Back Haunted on a decent surround system.

Damn. This is.. really really good. Trent is just a master at making beats.

Oh, and I think I heard a TDS-like guitar on came back haunted. Never noticed it with headphones.

as in you listened to it in stereo, but through a great surround receiver & excellent speakers? or you applied surround processing to it through the receiver?

Shadaloo

08-17-2013, 10:54 AM

I really wish I could listen to Just Like You Imagined without flashing back to that goddamned 300 commercial. Now I keep remembering SPARTA whenever I fucking hear it. This is why I won't watch any commercials using NIN songs.

dominik

08-17-2013, 01:13 PM

as in you listened to it in stereo, but through a great surround receiver & excellent speakers? or you applied surround processing to it through the receiver?

As in I plugged the laptop into the receiver of the movie surround system and listened to it in 7ch stereo. But, excellent speaker and excellent subwoofer, yes.

thefragile_jake

08-17-2013, 02:42 PM

Holy crap, Copy of A sounds amazing on headphones.

Mutilated

08-17-2013, 02:50 PM

The folks going to the Scala gig will hear Hesitation Marks first.

dlb

08-17-2013, 03:18 PM

FIST FUCK!!!

Ah, I just love it when the whole crowd sings along with that! :D

InvitingmeAway

08-17-2013, 03:19 PM

It's not as much fun to pick up the pieces...

ninsp

08-17-2013, 03:24 PM

Just to be repetitive, Copy of A is amazing on headphones. Like...it's a completely different song.

MrSlfDstruct

08-17-2013, 03:25 PM

Yeah, since I listened to Copy of A through my earbuds, I'm half-shopping for a semi-decent pair of over-the-ear 'phones, mostly just to listen to HM.

pigpen

08-17-2013, 03:58 PM

Yeah, since I listened to Copy of A through my earbuds, I'm half-shopping for a semi-decent pair of over-the-ear 'phones, mostly just to listen to HM.
Might I suggest a pair of Sony MDR7506's?
An audio engineer friend of mine gave them to me and they have ruined all of my other headphones for me.. Compared to these, it
sounded as I had cotton stuffed in my ears. Copy Of A sounds great in these things!

Scarlet Siren

08-17-2013, 04:13 PM

Yeah, since I listened to Copy of A through my earbuds, I'm half-shopping for a semi-decent pair of over-the-ear 'phones, mostly just to listen to HM.

Might I suggest a pair of Sony MDR7506's?
An audio engineer friend of mine gave them to me and they have ruined all of my other headphones for me.. Compared to these, it
sounded as I had cotton stuffed in my ears. Copy Of A sounds great in these things!

These?
http://intl.foofightersfilm.com/images/foo-image1.jpg

I'm after a good pair of headphones also.... Will be on the look out for them tomorrow when I'm in town.

pigpen

08-17-2013, 04:22 PM

Yep! Those are the ones! Get em!

eversonpoe

08-17-2013, 04:38 PM

As in I plugged the laptop into the receiver of the movie surround system and listened to it in 7ch stereo. But, excellent speaker and excellent subwoofer, yes.

my dad tends to put his surround receiver in 7-channel stereo a lot of the time, but i find it sounds a bit phase-y for my liking. i usually just keep mine in "straight" so it doesn't do any extra processing.

dominik

08-17-2013, 05:50 PM

my dad tends to put his surround receiver in 7-channel stereo a lot of the time, but i find it sounds a bit phase-y for my liking. i usually just keep mine in "straight" so it doesn't do any extra processing.

I understood nothing of that. Haha. I assume it does some processing to split the left and right "speaker" of the audio to the 7 speakers? Or something? And why is that bad?

MrSlfDstruct

08-17-2013, 08:38 PM

Might I suggest a pair of Sony MDR7506's?
An audio engineer friend of mine gave them to me and they have ruined all of my other headphones for me.. Compared to these, it
sounded as I had cotton stuffed in my ears. Copy Of A sounds great in these things!

Tempting, they seem to get really great reviews, but they're a bit out of the range I'm looking at. I've never been a big headphone user, but I've been wanting to take some more time listening to music lately, but if that doesn't pan out I don't want to be out much.

Any other suggestions in the sub-$40 range?

tiempo

08-17-2013, 09:12 PM

Any other suggestions in the sub-$40 range?

http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Image-ONE-On-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0096QYNRA/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

These aren't good for mixing an album on but for casual listening on an ipod, I have really enjoyed these. Lots of bass. I wouldn't hesitate getting a refurbished pair. Klipsch has really good customer service and will take care of you if something is wrong.

Amaro

08-17-2013, 10:12 PM

Tempting, they seem to get really great reviews, but they're a bit out of the range I'm looking at. I've never been a big headphone user, but I've been wanting to take some more time listening to music lately, but if that doesn't pan out I don't want to be out much.

Any other suggestions in the sub-$40 range?

@botley (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=469) was just recently complimenting this cheap but apparently quality Sony model: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRZX100-BLK-Series-Headphones/dp/B004WODP20/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1P6KCEJ0RFBAQ&coliid=IJPJ3N4WSS3M4

skip niklas

08-17-2013, 10:15 PM

@botley (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=469) was just recently complimenting this cheap but apparently quality Sony model: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRZX100-BLK-Series-Headphones/dp/B004WODP20/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1P6KCEJ0RFBAQ&coliid=IJPJ3N4WSS3M4

I picked up the same ones a few months back and I really enjoy them.

thelastdisciple

08-18-2013, 04:20 AM

I always thought it'd be cool if on any given NIN album there'd be a commentary much like what a movie has on DVD/Blu-Ray, such a commentary could be behind the scenes technoblabber from Trent & Co. about all the production and engineering that went into crafting the music.

Why the hell don't artists do things like this? would seem like an amazing thing for the fans not to mention lots of great insight. I know I'd love to hear it.

I don't need to know much about the lyrical content of course, that's ultimately up for us to guess at and decipher and make our own, part of why Trent doesn't like to allude to what the lyrics are usually about but at least he could go over some of the song construction, that'd be neat!

sheepdean

08-18-2013, 04:29 AM

Why the hell don't artists do things like this? would seem like an amazing thing for the fans not to mention lots of great insight. I know I'd love to hear it.

I don't need to know much about the lyrical content of course, that's ultimately up for us to guess at and decipher and make our own, part of why Trent doesn't like to allude to what the lyrics are usually about but at least he could go over some of the song construction, that'd be neat!
That's actually not an uncommon thing these days for albums - it's a fantastic potential bonus thing, the only issue is getting an artist to have something to say about every track, and something pertinent and interesting, plus them WANTING to dissect a track. Someone like Trent would probably always shy away from such a thing as he doesn't do much talking about his songs. Now, a disc for Ghosts with the whole team on, that would be neat

kercyx

08-18-2013, 08:11 AM

Here is a little something I've done this morning. I hope wome of you will enjoy it !
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9vi3ik3p19...emorabilia.mp3 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/9vi3ik3p198pirx/Copy%20of%20A%20Memorabilia.mp3)

eversonpoe

08-18-2013, 08:14 AM

Tempting, they seem to get really great reviews, but they're a bit out of the range I'm looking at. I've never been a big headphone user, but I've been wanting to take some more time listening to music lately, but if that doesn't pan out I don't want to be out much.

Any other suggestions in the sub-$40 range?

these panasonic headphones (http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RP-HTX7-Stereo-Headphones-Black/dp/B001BEAI4W/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1376831554&sr=8-5&keywords=panasonic+headphones) are fantastic. i have them, my fiancee has them, and my mom has them. when i was attending school for sound design a few years ago, one of my teachers did a pink noise test with them and said that they're comparable to some $300+ professional monitor headphones, and that it's amazing they're as inexpensive as they are. they're also super comfy.

thefragile_jake

08-18-2013, 09:17 AM

Is there some kind of vocal sample played during the chorus of Gave Up when Robin and the other member do the "Smashed up my sanity" line? Either that or some vocal effect on the microphone? I've always wondered how Gave Up always had that similar distorted "gremlin" vocal thing going on that generally sounds the same.

eversonpoe

08-18-2013, 09:27 AM

scorpiusdiamond

08-18-2013, 09:30 AM

I just had a listen to about 5 different recordings and they all sound very similar...

thefragile_jake

08-18-2013, 09:49 AM

I just had a listen to about 5 different recordings and they all sound very similar...

Yeah that was the thing I noticed too, I had listened to the And All That Could Have Been version the day before and just recently watched Beside You In Time and thought how the vocals were almost identical.

Leviathant

08-18-2013, 10:03 AM

I'm pretty sure the chorus vocals have been a sample in live performances from the start. The live chorus vocals always struck me as a little corny compared to how the album version sounds.

eversonpoe

08-18-2013, 10:04 AM

thefragile_jake

08-18-2013, 10:17 AM

as in they're mock singing it? or the sample is overlaid in live performances?

I was wondering if they were mock singing it myself...or maybe the sample is just played so heavy in the mix it overshadows any other backing vocal.

Leviathant

08-18-2013, 10:28 AM

I was wondering if they were mock singing it myself...or maybe the sample is just played so heavy in the mix it overshadows any other backing vocal.

The backing vocals were usually too low in the mix to really hear on that track, but in these recent webcasts, they've been up enough in the mix that you can actually hear Josh and Robin singing along.

scorpiusdiamond

08-18-2013, 02:05 PM

I am watching The King Of Kong tonight purely because of Josh Freese.
/fanboy

seasonsinthesky

08-18-2013, 07:17 PM

I'm pretty sure the chorus vocals have been a sample in live performances from the start. The live chorus vocals always struck me as a little corny compared to how the album version sounds.

definitely. there's no way anyone in the band could keep all those choruses on pitch and in time during that madness, especially not TR — not to be offensive, it was as true during the Self Destruct tour as it is now.

butter_hole

08-18-2013, 08:36 PM

anyone ever notice the opening drums to 'get down, make love' are very similar to 'hyperpower!'s drums?

tiempo

08-18-2013, 09:57 PM

Also, the bass from 'The New Flesh' and 'On We March' from The Social Network are definitely related.

Scarlet Siren

08-19-2013, 02:35 AM

That album is going to leak when I'm on be coach to London tonight. I just know it!

(Why the fuck did I book the coach?!? Fuck sakes)

wizfan

08-19-2013, 01:31 PM

Want a truly terrifying NIN experience? Listen to Hyperpower's "Misery" track from the YZR multitracks. Goddamn it, it gave me nightmares.

Vertigo

08-19-2013, 03:37 PM

Want a truly terrifying NIN experience? Listen to Hyperpower's "Misery" track from the YZR multitracks. Goddamn it, it gave me nightmares.

I spent all of yesterday fiddling with Hyperpower, and I'm still shellshocked from having to hear the finale of that element again and again.

As day-ruining as it is, it's curious how some of those backing tracks in Hyperpower tell a bit of a story all on their own. IIRC it's that track which consists of cows and insects early on (you'd never hear it in the full mix), then voices, then distant explosions and screaming, then close bomb drops and yelling, then VERY LOUD gunfire and ending in a horribly distorted shriek.

sheepdean

08-19-2013, 04:56 PM

That album is going to leak when I'm on be coach to London tonight. I just know it!

(Why the fuck did I book the coach?!? Fuck sakes)
Because coach is ridiculously cheap and the sexiest way to travel

dominik

08-19-2013, 05:25 PM

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY I DIDN'T KNOW THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4AZ9IjHAjc

wizfan

08-19-2013, 10:35 PM

Yeah, that was kind of amazing, almost made me think some of the multitracks could stand on their own (and they did, as a part of Vessel was used for that horrible alarm in one of the ARG sites). Also, I listened closely to the distorted voice that says "hyperpower!", and it sounds like it's Trent with his voice filtered to sound like a crowd.

zecho

08-19-2013, 11:40 PM

Believe it or not, the plugin that he used to make his voice sound like a crowd is the same one he used when saying "God given". It just has the settings tweaked differently. I've seen it used to make whispers out of normal speech in post production before as well.

katara

08-20-2013, 03:04 AM

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY I DIDN'T KNOW THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4AZ9IjHAjc
They have a whole album! You should download it immediately.

Last night, I dreamed that Copy Of A was an exact replica of Ponygrinder by Tweaker. With Trent singing over it.
I haven't heard a note of anything new other than Came Back Haunted... I think I'm beginning to steadily go mad.

Ryan

08-20-2013, 08:08 PM

pigpen

08-20-2013, 08:20 PM

When Trent wrote and released March Of The Pigs, do you think he knew he created a song that's impossible not to like and would never get complained about? I wouldn't care if it OPENED and CLOSED every god damn live show.

So much adrenaline, and the All The Pigs, All Lined Up extended outro makes me want to endlessly cum.

He knew it. ;)

Why do people hate on Getting Smaller!? "I thought I got you on my side, I haven't got fucking anything"
is such a badass line to me that it makes the entire song BAD ASS!!!

gorast

08-20-2013, 08:47 PM

He knew it. ;)

Why do people hate on Getting Smaller!? "I thought I got you on my side, I haven't got fucking anything"
is such a badass line to me that it makes the entire song BAD ASS!!!

I feel like it's the lyrics. Flip flop flip flop flip, etc etc etc.

But still, with lines like the one you mentioned, and "I've still got my one good arm, that I can beat my ooooooooooHHH I CAN BEAT MYSELF UP WITH", that's fucking hardcore.

Ryan

08-20-2013, 09:45 PM

But still, with lines like the one you mentioned, and "I've still got my one good arm, that I can beat my ooooooooooHHH I CAN BEAT MYSELF UP WITH", that's fucking hardcore.

That's Trent letting us know he's still able to fap.

pigpen

08-20-2013, 10:20 PM

"I can beat myself off with"

dlb

08-21-2013, 03:20 AM

almost every single fucking show has head like a hole in the encore. Trent just doesn't seem too get tired of it... Oh well, me neither! HEAD LIKE A HOLE!!! BLACK AS YOUR SOUL!!! http://blog.tobis-bu.de/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/zork-metal-smiley.gif

Ryan

08-21-2013, 04:10 AM

almost every single fucking show has head like a hole in the encore. Trent just doesn't seem too get tired of it... Oh well, me neither! Head like a hole!!! Black as your soul!!! http://blog.tobis-bu.de/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/zork-metal-smiley.gif

i'd rather die than get rid of this song!!!

GavinCollins420

08-21-2013, 04:13 AM

I get to see NIN live in 2 days for the first time.

What the fuck.

Shadaloo

08-21-2013, 11:27 AM

lol

porter ricks mix

lol

redshoewearer

08-21-2013, 01:24 PM

I get to see NIN live in 2 days for the first time.

What the fuck.

You will be changed forever.

*****
I am disappointed to see from the NME article that HBO rejected the Year Zero series. I think a story like that would have fit in with way things are going in the world today. I feel like he predicted some of what is currently happening, with all the surveillance.

Amaro

08-21-2013, 01:27 PM

I'm not a YZ fan (the music end), but with all due respect to HBO ('cause Trent has long since had all of mine)--they can go fuck themselves. I hope the show happens sometime. Or a movie.

Shadaloo

08-21-2013, 01:55 PM

I think a novel would be great if the show can't be managed. Trent has a great sense of narrative flow and I'd love to see him try his hand at a full prose work. Maybe work with a ghostwriter or something.

elevenism

08-21-2013, 02:05 PM

Good god i need to log in more. there are so many things about which you good folks are talking that i don't know what to reply to.

Ok...yeah...y'all are right. WE all wanna see B-Sides. Everyone else wants to see closer, HLAH, THTF etc. Even my little bro who has been listening to NIN since broken said HE'D be pissed if he went to see nails and didnt hear terrible lie, etc.

Secondly, Hesitation Marks...i don't think it will be the last nails album. And i damn sure don't think this will be the last tour.
In fact, i think before it's all said and done, we WILL see Trent Reznor preforming, sitting at a piano, a-la still/Bridge school benefit. I honestly thought we'd see this sooner than later. I DID think that LITS/NINJA/Wave Goodbye WERE going to be the last shows, but that's because there's just a starkness to NIN...i don't know how to explain it...i believed him. Ozzy he's not, you know?

Thirdly, does ANYONE believe that trent didn't know that the NOLA house was the manson/tate house? i was watching one of those horror movies where the price on the house is really cheap because johnny killed suzy with a chainsaw there back in the day and blah blah blah, and asked my girl if she thought it was true what tr said, that he didnt know...she called bullshit.

And Morphine by MJ sounds like an NIN song period. not just part of it...the whole thing. i fucking love it.

Finally, i'm gonna start checking this thread more often. i didn't know how much fun was being had without me.

nobies

08-21-2013, 02:17 PM

You will be changed forever.

*****
I am disappointed to see from the NME article that HBO rejected the Year Zero series.
Wait what? Why? Does this mean it's over or that the BBC will just foot the entire bill?

gorast

08-21-2013, 03:06 PM

Wait what? Why? Does this mean it's over or that the BBC will just foot the entire bill?

Maybe the BBC will broadcast it on their own channels instead.

KarenLeslie

08-21-2013, 03:09 PM

I'm confused, since when has the BBC been involved? I thought the deal was with HBO.

nobies

08-21-2013, 03:10 PM

I'm confused, since when has the BBC been involved? I thought the deal was with HBO.
Year Zero was always a co-production with HBO and the BBC.

KarenLeslie

08-21-2013, 03:14 PM

Ah, okay, thanks. Apparently I was misinformed from the get go. YZ seems an odd match for the BBC to me, but I hope it gets made in any case.

EndlessLoveless

08-21-2013, 03:28 PM

Ah, okay, thanks. Apparently I was misinformed from the get go. YZ seems an odd match for the BBC to me, but I hope it gets made in any case.

Unfortunetely, I dont think it will ever happen. Its too good to be true...
But i am all for it, if its done right-meaning no cheesy special effects like some of those BBC shows.

wizfan

08-21-2013, 03:33 PM

frankie teardrop

08-21-2013, 03:42 PM

lol

porter ricks mix

lol

sometimes i think i'm the only one who likes this...

KarenLeslie

08-21-2013, 03:47 PM

Yeah, it would be a shame to see the YZ series go to waste. Whether you like the album or not, you have to admit it was prophetic. Even Trent said that he used to have high hopes for Obama when he got elected, but "Year Zero is happening now".

I wonder if HBO passed on it because they thought it might get them in hot water? Granted, HBO will give you sex and violence all day long, but they are very careful with the social commentary. True Blood at least has some real-world applications to politics, but it's usually pretty darn banal (though I haven't seen the latest season yet, so who knows.)

imail724

08-21-2013, 03:55 PM

sometimes i think i'm the only one who likes this...
Won't argue that

gorast

08-21-2013, 04:18 PM

This is a random ETS thought, but:

I just donated today, and now I'm worried that I'm going to be accidentally facepalming people for the next month or so.

wizfan

08-21-2013, 04:22 PM

sometimes i think i'm the only one who likes this...

No, I like it too, it's got a great atmosphere and the drum machine's sound is adorable.

Vertigo

08-21-2013, 04:52 PM

It's just occurred to me that Donnie Darko's time portal is a bit like The Presence. Is The Warning actually about Jake Gyllenhaal?

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4446/g9fy.jpg

eversonpoe

08-21-2013, 04:53 PM

This is a random ETS thought, but:

I just donated today, and now I'm worried that I'm going to be accidentally facepalming people for the next month or so.

i wonder how many of us are going to end up with josh/alex wink/black bomb-related subtitles...

Big Fat Matt

08-21-2013, 05:00 PM

Came back haunted is like the first drag off of the cigarette where you feel so much better. Copy Of A is like finishing that cigarette up, not a bad drag yet. Everything is like pulling too hard and beginning to burn your finger.

I feel like this will change in 2 weeks.

imail724

08-21-2013, 09:25 PM

r_z

08-21-2013, 09:31 PM

so where did his neck go?

gorast

08-21-2013, 09:36 PM

Someone posted this on the NIN subreddit. I thought it was pretty interesting to see how similar yet different they are. He's even holding the mic exactly the same in both pics.

God damn it, I did the facepalm thing. I knew it was going to happen today. Sorry about that.

pigpen

08-21-2013, 09:50 PM

I wonder how TR would handle writing an album that wasn't a concept album, but also wasn't at all about himself.
We have YZ, and then the rest of his albums, sans ghosts, are pretty much entirely introspective creations.
It'd be interesting to see TR write songs about things he sees as compelling or polarizing in one way or the other.

Like, Car Crashes, The tradition of opening windows when people pass away, etc.

spiralout

08-22-2013, 01:55 AM

Over the weekend I picked up Further Down the Spiral, March of the Pigs (single) and And All That Could Have Been (CD) for $2 total at a local record store. I have owned all of these at one time but no longer did......so it kind of made my day.

Thudpaw

08-22-2013, 05:30 AM

The scala setlist looked fan-fucking-tastic. Lucky bastards.

Amaro

08-22-2013, 06:15 AM

theimage13

08-22-2013, 06:23 AM

http://i.imgur.com/NVzv2w2.jpg

Someone posted this on the NIN subreddit. I thought it was pretty interesting to see how similar yet different they are. He's even holding the mic exactly the same in both pics.

Obvious musical reasons aside, this is pretty much why Trent is sitting fairly comfortably at the top of my list of artists to look up to. To see someone go from being so completely drugged out of their mind that they couldn't sing their own words to...well...this? An Oscar/Grammy winning composer who's pushing 50, in (it appears) amazing physical shape, and still going strong with a career that's spanned over two decades? Damn, that's inspiring (and why there's a lot of NIN on my running/gym playlists).

Scarlet Siren

08-22-2013, 06:34 AM

Those first two NIN shows changed my fucking life!!!

I've seen countless shows over the years but nothing, not one damn single thing can compare to the two shows I've seen so far this week. Regardless of how many streams or tapings I've watched, my mind and body was not prepared for those shows. Those shows exceeded every expectation and dream imaginable. God-damn-fucking-WOW!

I just wish it was possible for me to see NIN sooner than this, and goodness knows I tried., But hey, those were my breaks and I guess it made getting to Scala all the more sweeter.

thefragile_jake

08-22-2013, 08:54 AM

It's my 26th birthday. Never have the lyrics to Wish felt more relevant.

dlb

08-22-2013, 08:56 AM

happy birthday jake! may your next 26 years be no way to hell and more fist fuck! ;)

guess I'll have to play the song myself next year when the clock strikes midnight! :D

Amaro

08-22-2013, 08:58 AM

It's my 26th birthday. Never have the lyrics to Wish felt more relevant.

HB, brah... I've been there since this past Feb. It hasn't been easy.

thefragile_jake

08-22-2013, 08:58 AM

happy birthday jake! may your next 26 years be no way to hell and more fist fuck! ;)

:D :D Thank you very much!!!

HB, brah... I've been there since this past Feb. It hasn't been easy.

Yeah, 25 into 26 had some of the best and worst moments of my life so far. Here's hoping it's at least a little bit of smooth sailings for the most part. :) Thanks though friend!

Shadaloo

08-22-2013, 10:21 AM

In 2009, a lot of terrible shit happened. Trent put NIN on hold/end/hiatus (I knew he'd be back someday, but it still bummed me out), I lost one parent to a disease they battled with for years, and the other had a stroke and was almost paralyzed, resulting in my becoming a caretaker for almost every spare moment of my life. Without baring too much of my soul on a public forum to a bunch of relative strangers (I've been posting sporadically since the AATCHB days, but I've never really been a board regular), I've felt pretty numb for a lot of these past few years, and it's taken me a long time to recuperate.

It's a very strange thing, going through awful times and not having new NIN to relate to emotionally on some level like I've always been used to. It was probably a good thing though, some parts of the catalogue I couldn't bear to replay for fear of a total breakdown.

Anyhow, here I am, four years down the line. Long story short, things are better. I've grieved. My remaining parent has recuperated enough to have a degree of self-autonomy sufficient enough that we've been able to move apart (though I still help with whatever is needed a few times a week). I'm in a new relationship with a wonderful lady. That hasn't happened in years.

To have Trent come out now, resurrect NIN, and most importantly, to put out an album that reflects on the dark times in his life, all he's been through, an album that can get downright happy at times...fuck, the parallels boggle my mind. It's the perfect time for what is shaping up to be - at least for me - the perfect NIN album for right now, when I too am feeling better than I have in years.

That said, I braved Still for the first time in half a decade, yesterday. Holy shit do AATCHB and Leaving Hope still hit hard. But I'm glad I was able to do it.

Fist Fuck

08-22-2013, 01:45 PM

By the time TR retires (let's say/hope not before 2030) his two sons will be old enough to follow in their daddy's footsteps. They even look like him (at least from the back) and if Trent can get them into music they're gonna kick so much ass. Having TR as your dad is probably the coolest thing ever, I hope they're no going to grow up liking dubstep and thinking their dad is lame...

I know this random thought is about Trent's private life/kids, and we should be careful with what we say, but this has just crossed my mind.

icklekitty

08-22-2013, 01:56 PM

It's my 26th birthday. Never have the lyrics to Wish felt more relevant.
I'm nearing the end of my 26...it's very apt for this age.

eversonpoe

08-22-2013, 02:03 PM

I'm nearing the end of my 26...it's very apt for this age.

it's funny to me how many of us are 26(ish).

GibbonBlack

08-22-2013, 02:36 PM

it's funny to me how many of us are 26(ish).

I'm 28 :(

(ten characters)

Khrz

08-22-2013, 02:40 PM

I'm 28 :(

(ten characters)

Shaddup I'm 37. You kids better get your iphones, ponies and PS4s and gettoutta my lawn.

eversonpoe

08-22-2013, 02:46 PM

Shaddup I'm 37. You kids better get your iphones, ponies and PS4s and gettoutta my lawn.

at least you're not a 48-year-old single dude who spent an entire wednesday arguing with EVERYONE on here :: cough cough promethean cough cough ::

Khrz

08-22-2013, 02:49 PM

at least you're not a 48-year-old single dude who spent an entire wednesday arguing with EVERYONE on here :: cough cough promethean cough cough ::

You know... I see myself doing that. Past 35, 11 years ? Might as well be weeks.

thevoid99

08-22-2013, 02:58 PM

What would the Trent of the TDS era think of "Everything"?

Khrz

08-22-2013, 03:04 PM

What would the Trent of the TDS era think of "Everything"?

No way to tell... On one hand I remember him saying - back then - that fun-loving surf pop-rock songs weren't his stuff (as in, mood-like, I'm heavily paraphrasing here). On the other hand, he may as well listen to it and wonder "how the fuck does this guy do all this shit ? I could try something like that".