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Faceplams: Fucking THIS.Originally Posted by allegro
What does Trent dating strippers or having (I am assuming) consensual three-ways have to do with anything?
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Fucking THIS.
What does Trent dating strippers or having (I am assuming) consensual three-ways have to do with anything?
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https://pitchfork.com/news/trent-rez...social_twitter
reznor released a statement to pitchfork
I have been vocal over the years about my dislike of Manson as a person and cut ties with him nearly 25 years ago. As I said at the time, the passage from Manson’s memoir is a complete fabrication. I was infuriated and offended back when it came out and remain so today.
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Nobody said it had to do with anything. I have dated a couple of strippers as well and am friends with several girls who are in that line of work. If Trent liked strippers, good for him. My point was Trent was pretty involved in the sex, drugs and rock n roll lifestyle, so you know someone is going to toss his name in the ring (like yesterday) just due to his association w Manson and Twiggy and all the partying that went on back then. Mike Patton from day 1 said he never would touch drugs and would never go near groupies. Trent on the other hand dove headfirst into that scene. And now because several of his friends have gotten popped (Manson, Twiggy, Maynard doesnt have the best rep) its probably only a matter of time before his name gets thrown in the ring just due to guilt by association. Like I stated earlier. I dont think he did anything wrong.....but someone is going to try to drag him into this one way or the other (even if its just to get his response to what happened to Manson) due to past associations
For the record here is the Howard Stern clip
Also as for Wes......Limp Bizkit doesn't have the best reputation for the way they treated women. I was at a Faith No More show back in the day where Limp Bizkit opened and were getting booed mercilessly and Fred Durst spent the entire show calling the crowd 'faggots' and asking for the girls to take their tops off. Wes didn't seem too upset with Fred
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That's the soothing balm we were looking for...
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Also Dita's sister liked Manson's statement/denial on IG. Um?
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It's a shame this got dragged up again and he felt the need to make a statement. The person who first brought this up on Twitter hasn't acknowledged any of the various attempts to highlight the broader context and TR's numerous responses from 20+ years ago. This leaves me with the impression that, rather than just being a bit lazy, they were acting in bad faith from the outset.
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Pitchfork: Maybe not still cunts.
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She won't say shit to correct the statement or she will dig her heels in. Because that's how people get clicks on twitter.
Absolutely hate that hellscape.
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That Pitchfork picture on the article pretty much sums them up these days. One looks healthy, mature, and relaxed in his life. The other one is still wearing excessive makeup and living on past glory. Warner's blank stare can't be hidden by layers of concealer and eye shadow.
I feel like this is going to be like Ryan Adams. Deny, attempt an "apology", and then try to put out new music that shows the new you. "The first folk album from the artist formerly known as MM."
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It's scary though Manson's IG followers hasn't dramatically decreased, it's still at 3.6M since Monday!
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The passages from that book make no sense. It seems like Manson was so far detached from reality.
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I’m glad he did put out a statement. I don’t think he had to, but I’m glad he confronted it (again) rather than remaining silent.
i fucking hate Manson. I’ve never been a fan, and I always just found him to be some disgusting creepoid. I remember people trying to compare Mason to Alice Cooper, but there’s no similarity. Alice Cooper got sober and helped others. Manson has always been the same sack of shit, digging deeper into his persona of being fucked up and vile.
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I’m fairly certain he buys followers on Insta. A lot of artists do, it’s fairly common.
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That's the thing, the thoughts don't even connect. Anyone who has ever talked to somebody completely on the verge of passing out after too much cocaine might be familiar with how he sounds there, but it's just insane. He's calling her this "fish woman,' using adjectives that don't even really explain things... I'm just going to stop there, and maybe commenting on this in general. I've probably said how I feel about it all, and I feel like I'll feel better if I just put it out of mind for a while.
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Vince (Alice Cooper) was raised by a minister, is fairly religious, was never abusive to anyone, and is actually talented.
He reduces her to a creature, something sub-human. He has no respect for her. She likely never existed, is a work of fiction, a story he thought makes him the Evil Lord Byron and would bolster his image as someone who was begat from the evil done to him; he’s basically an incel on drugs. He’s taking his entire shitty teenage years of rejection out on every woman possible. He now exists to exact his revenge. That’s what incels do.
Last edited by allegro; 02-03-2021 at 09:09 PM.
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I thoroughly dislike Howard Stern. He's an ass.
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Howard Stern has always been a worthless bottom-feeder.
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Howard had helped rescue over a thousand stray animals, though. Like, his homes have wings filled with foster cats. There’s a huge adoption center named after their late dog (Howard has a tattoo with her name, plus a tattoo of their late cat, Apple).
That other thing is his job. I sincerely doubt that Howard Stern was at a strip club in ‘93. Howard was married with kids in ‘93; He sits at home painting watercolors and hanging out with his wife and the cats. Howard is a comedian so he made his shit up. He also admits that he used to be an awful selfish prick.
Here’s a really good interview with Howard that came out around when he released his last book (which was really good).
Last edited by allegro; 02-03-2021 at 11:19 PM.
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Ok fine.
That other thing that's his job???
At that point it's slander, as there are people who aren't his fans, who aren't in on the "joke" that's total bullshit. It isn't cool. And I'm sorry, he shouldn't profit off slander.
So he might be a decent human being to animals, but there's a level of accountability. He profits off the lies and bullshit. He's still culpable.
In his private life, he's saint francis, but professionally he degrades people and tarnishes their reputations. He makes his fortune off spreading lies.
He's still a bottom feeder in my book. Maybe his charity towards animals is his mea culpa, I dunno. He's still a dick.
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Yeah, making fun of someone's depression, social anxiety, and addiction problems (while mockingly saying "waaah") makes him a supremely insensitive asshole, in my opinion.
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Dude, that video was posted on YouTube 11 years ago. Artie, the other guy talking, stopped working at the show in 2009. Howard started going to psychotherapy since then, after having two cancer scares. He hasn’t been “that guy” on his show in many years. And none of what was said in that clip was lies, either, other than Howard and the unlikely lap dance. Howard poked fun of drug abuse, not depression. But, if you read the above interview, he says many years of psychotherapy has made him a different guy, and people now complain that his show is boring. He addresses #MeToo stuff in the interview.
Last edited by allegro; 02-03-2021 at 11:01 PM.
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Love, hate, or indifference, I will say that Stern can be an excellent interviewer. He can dig in and get things that other interviewers dream of. I understand the loathing. Is this too much Howard talk? Or is this getting a wee off topic?
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I was just going to say this same thing. The topic keeps veering off, to Trent Reznor, over and over again, even if it’s some dumb fucking Stern bit from 11 years ago in this thread, that’s still totally off-topic. That clip topic is drift. Reznor used to date strippers and do drugs but then Howard says Reznor is a hermit? Wtf does this have to do with “Sexual Asshattery in the News?” Other than one guy in this thread who keeps trying to change the subject from Manson to Reznor and strippers? Which isn’t sexual asshattery.
Stern, in this thread, maybe he was a sexual asshat for throwing bologna at porn star’s asses, but he wasn’t abusing people in his studio without their consent and that Howard Stern died many years ago. Yes, it was reprehensible. Yes, he should be ashamed of it, and he is. And he’s changed and is still going to therapy.
Last edited by allegro; 02-04-2021 at 12:10 AM.
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I sobered up.
Further thoughts : I don't really know what 'cancel culture' is, but as an artist, most of the power you have is what your audience gives you back in response to your art. That power can easily be taken back, as it should when you behave like an abusive power-hungry shithole. Drowning in the depths of irrelevancy is probably Manson's biggest fear.
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He's a narcissist by numbers. As someone that's been at the hands of one, I'm academically curious as to why it didn't manifest with Rose and Dita (who've both come forward to say that despite not experiencing the same they support ERW)
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The only thing I can put it down to were Rose and Dita were a similar age to Manson. It was after Dita he pursued ERW, and a long line of women he was trying to make Dita. Power, control, utter lack of respect for his juniors.
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Cops were at his house according to TMZ last night after a friend couldn't get a hold of him. Eventually his agent or someone said he was fine but just didn't want to come outside, blah blah blah.
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Trent and Manson reuniting and performing together in 2000 after the numerous allegations Manson made in his autobiography about Trent only a few years prior was something that never made any sense to me. The sexual assault on the drunk girl wasn't the only extreme allegation he made in that book; there was another anecdote about an alleged pregnancy or something. When TR made that remark in a 2011 interview about being an adult and wearing suits and being open to anything regarding a reunion with Manson, it was a real head-scratcher for me. If someone was accusing me of sexual assault or impregnating someone and it was complete bullshit, I wouldn't want to ever even entertain the notion of associating with that person again..
Not saying anything Manson has claimed in his book or in the press about TR is in any way true. It just strikes me as super weird that there would be any association or openness to association on Trent's part if someone had made some terrible accusations in print about him like that..
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Money (or the potential thereof) makes men do funny things.
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He may have said that hinging on the idea that Manson would improve somewhere down the road, if he cleaned his act up maybe there was a small chance.
As far as the 2000 gig and Starfuckers Inc. - Perhaps he was roped into it because of management and his label?
Sorry for further drift.
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