Trump 2020-21 - Epilogue

[Magnetic]

Sounds cathartic. Sign me up.
Though I my state it would provoke issues.

I wish I could projectile vomit acid on those fucking Drump-supporting trucks with the flags. Just let me be one of those Jurassic park venom rapters and I d be happy.

[allegate]

How Trump Steered Supporters Into Unwitting Donations (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/03/us/politics/trump-donations.html)


The sheer magnitude of the money involved is staggering for politics. In the final two and a half months of 2020, the Trump campaign, the Republican National Committee and their shared accounts issued more than 530,000 refunds worth $64.3 million to online donors. All campaigns make refunds for various reasons, including to people who give more than the legal limit. But the sum the Trump operation refunded dwarfed that of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign and his equivalent Democratic committees, which made 37,000 online refunds totaling $5.6 million in that time.

https://i.imgur.com/jzuawDe.png

[thelastdisciple]

MI6 spy Christopher Steele 'produced second dossier on Donald Trump for FBI
(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/03/mi6-spy-christopher-steele-produced-second-dossier-donald-trump/)
Article is behind a paywall but pro-tip (kinda scummy i know) : if you use Firefox and hit the reader view toggle. Just refresh the page while in reader view and it should grab the whole thing.

Here's an excerpt, there's not much more to it than that really.

It'll be interesting if this second dossier is ever leaked out.

https://i.postimg.cc/NM59ccHF/Screenshot-2021-05-03-MI6-spy-Christopher-Steele-produced-second-dossier-on-Donald-Trump-for-FBI.png

It'd be nice if it all led to the bastard being put into a deep dark hole somewhere for the rest of his days.

[Jazzkokehead]

Trump deserves the worst that can happen to him, I really believe that. During his presidency, I made a comment to friend: "I didn't know I could hate someone I've never met before so much." Unfortunately, I think he'll escape any repercussions.

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1389721202730704897

Huh... This can't be good for someone.

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/DanSlott/status/1390075417927856128

Fucking good. Talk shit get hit mother fucker.

[versusreality]

waiting for him to create more accounts to be banned, like DJTChair or DJTtoilet

[Jinsai]

https://twitter.com/DanSlott/status/1390075417927856128

Fucking good. Talk shit get hit mother fucker.

I'm starting to suspect that Twitter is only making these gesture-moves to prove they'll do something where in similar situations Facebook will not, and it's a strange line in the sand in how they're defining what their company is "all about" at this point in time.

Twitter is realizing that they completely let the genie out of the bottle, and now they're trying to say "we're sorry!"

[BRoswell]

waiting for him to create more accounts to be banned, like DJTChair or DJTtoilet

Nah, that's too creative for them. They'll just put a '2' after the username and pat themselves on the back for a job well done.

[allegro]

waiting for him to create more accounts to be banned, like DJTChair or DJTtoilet

Someone already created "DJTShit" and it was instantly suspended :D

[bobbie solo]

We are such a stupid country with such a short memory. People are going to need to be continually reminded of the horror this man fomented & why he cannot be allowed to rehabilitate himself or come back into the spotlight ever again. Between all the Big Lie stuff and then especially 1/6, the populous has to never forget what an absolute menace he is. His continued actions do make all that clear at least. He hasn't changed at all. And now look at Liz Cheney being forced out of power in the House. He is still running that party. This monster needs to be put down. Things won't change for the better on that side of the aisle until he's completely gone.

[versusreality]

Totally agree Solo.

He has a legit chance of winning in 2024. That pisses me off beyond belief.

Our old "pal" (sarcasm of course) from NJ Chris Christie is considering a run too.

[allegro]

What the actual fuck

https://twitter.com/joyannreid/status/1390631776201097217?s=21

[elevenism]

What's fucked up is that Republicans are overrepresented in gvmt.
Senate democrats represent like 40 million more people than Republicans, but they have a 50 50 split.
On top of that, they have the most watched cable news channel and the most media engagement online.
AND, they have a big ass persecution complex thing going. They're whining about being censored and cancelled during interviews on the country's #1 cable news channel.

And they all either love, or fear, Trump.

Meanwhile, they're scrambling to create blatant voter suppression to all but guarantee a victory in 2022 and 2024.
There are fewer of these people than there are of us, but they're beating us by playing REALLY dirty. It's not just Trump, it's brilliant strategists like Roger Stone. The persecution complex bullshit is going to bring their voters out in fucking droves, while many on the left won't vote because it's too fucking HARD, by design, OR, they'll underestimate how pissed off and fired up the right is.

Edit: also, look at what allegro posted above. These people DO NOT give a FUCK about decorum, ANYMORE.

I'm not so sure Epilogue is the right title for this thread, yet.

[allegate]

What the actual fuck

https://twitter.com/joyannreid/status/1390631776201097217?s=21
that sounds like grounds for an old fashioned ass whoopin'. See how much he likes buckwheat when that's all he can eat because his jaw's wired shut.

[allegro]

that sounds like grounds for an old fashioned ass whoopin'. See how much he likes buckwheat when that's all he can eat because his jaw's wired shut.

I showed that video to my husband, and he said "somebody needs to beat the living fuck outa that guy" especially after I showed him THE SECOND TWEET (BELOW). See this (https://www.9news.com/video/news/local/next/gop-lawmaker-suggests-colorado-house-colleague-should-let-go-of-sons-murder/73-7eae64d2-f0e9-4bb7-8ffe-fef558ee5ed5).

https://twitter.com/KyleClark/status/1389994421614125059?s=20

[allegro]

Gerrymandering and voter suppression. And right now, the GOP is getting rid of Liz Cheney for renouncing Trump.

https://twitter.com/vabvox/status/1391923512798064647?s=21

[elevenism]

Gerrymandering and voter suppression. And right now, the GOP is getting rid of Liz Cheney for renouncing Trump.

https://twitter.com/vabvox/status/1391923512798064647?s=21
Yet, Cheney has a FAR more conservative voting record than her replacement. She has also voted WITH trump, more than her replacement. The other woman didn't even support trump in 2016.

But Cheney won't repeat Trump's lies, and this lady will.

This has become an EXTREME cult of personality. The "GOP" no longer has SHIT to do with conservatism, or state's rights, or small gvmt. It's JUST about swearing allegiance to trump and parroting whatever he says.

He's the puppet master, here.

[versusreality]

The fact that he's the puppet master concerns me deeply. If Dems lose seats in 22, Biden may be a one term president. The Repubs, if they have a full majority, will do WHATEVER it takes to get Trump in power. It's clear as day with what's happening now that they are willing to kiss the master's feet at all costs.

[allegate]

personally I'm rooting for the cheeseburger or well-done steak to win against him.

There's going to be a power vacuum when that happens. If it were another country it would be fascinating to watch but it's not so it's scary af.

[elevenism]

The fact that he's the puppet master concerns me deeply. If Dems lose seats in 22, Biden may be a one term president. The Repubs, if they have a full majority, will do WHATEVER it takes to get Trump in power. It's clear as day with what's happening now that they are willing to kiss the master's feet at all costs.
If trump runs again, I'm pretty sure he'll win.

[BRoswell]

I don't see Trumpy running again. I'm sure he'll WANT to, but Republicans will trot out whoever they can that supports his "values" without throwing their support behind him. They're going to want someone they can control better (i.e. someone who doesn't put their foot in their mouth every time they speak), and god help us if they succeed. Honestly, I hope he gets rectal cancer before then so we don't have to be bombarded with his stupid fucking face.

[Jinsai]

Trump won't run again. This has always been 100% about his ego... and he never really expected to win the first time anyway. Then, he actually won, and wtf... and then he couldn't bear to lose, anything but that... and then he lost. He'll come up with a reason to never try again, and it'll be some blowhard nonsense about how he already did more than all people in the universe combined, and that at this point, the evil democrats would rather ruin everyone's lives rather than let him make America great again, and "guys, I just love this country too much... this country, and all of you... beautiful people out there in the dark..."

[elevenism]

I hope you two are right. And I think that trump was a useful idiot to the GOP establishment.

But they created a fucking monster. It's literally the Trump Party, now, to the point where they're filtering out lawmakers who don't repeat Trump's blatant lies.
Millions of people who never gave a shit about politics are now fervent trump supporters. They couldn't tell you the three branches of gvmt, or what the Secretary of State does, but they looooove Donald Trump.
The only way he doesn't run again is if someone convinces him not to: someone like Roger Stone or Steve Bannon. And I don't know why they would do that.

Trump is their ticket to minority rule.

[ickyvicky]

Liz Cheney got the boot!

[allegro]

Yet, Cheney has a FAR more conservative voting record than her replacement. She has also voted WITH trump, more than her replacement. The other woman didn't even support trump in 2016.
Exactly!!


Trump won't run again.
Bullshit, yes he will. And all of the votes that the Republicans pulled in for the 2020 election (record-breaking) are assumed to be because of Trump. Which is likely bullshit, but the GOP isn't taking any chances. It's why the House is lined up behind him; they don't want to lose any of those votes. They're whores. They don't want to lose that power. They will turn this country into an autocracy to keep that power. I'm not kidding.

If you read his niece's book, that gig filled Trump's giant ego and he wants that shit back. The White House was his Windsor Castle and all the world saluting him and guys in tuxes chasing him around waiting on him like he's royalty, and the world calling him "sir" is what he's been living for, his entire life.

The only thing that will stop him is an indictment and prison time.

Or, a grabber from all those cheeseburgers.

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1392558314605580289

that's crazy loud, that part there at the end.

[Jinsai]

If you read his niece's book, that gig filled Trump's giant ego and he wants that shit back. The White House was his Windsor Castle and all the world saluting him and guys in tuxes chasing him around waiting on him like he's royalty, and the world calling him "sir" is what he's been living for, his entire life.

I got through a lot of her book but eventually, I just felt like I needed a break, and I'm not sure where I left off at this point. When I was reading it originally I was just really needing to keep my blood pressure down... the anxiety behind the possibility that this motherfucker might actually get re-elected at the time was just too much. Now that he's lost, I should probably go back and finish it.

[Space Suicide]

If trump runs again, I'm pretty sure he'll win.

He's a demagogue figure now and the way media covered him the entire Presidency it's no wonder why he is considered one. He owns the Republican party now, there's not another candidate even close to him in popularity. What's your other choices? Ted fuckin' Cruz? Fucker Carlson? Chris Christie? Please.

If your standard democrat nominees are dogshit like they have been this entire past decade it won't be a surprise if he wins. At that point you'd have to question your nomination choices because if he has the ability to be elected twice then maybe Trump isn't the fucking problem with the elections or a specific voter base like people blindly wanna dismiss. Maybe your election nominee choices turn people off. Joe Biden is basically a republican who wears blue paraphernalia. If he doesn't run who is next in line for the Dems in 2024? His VP Kamala Harris? She was so fucking terrible she bombed out in the Democratic primaries before Iowa even concluded. What a joke.

[hellospaceboy]

I think Harris has a good chance to be the 2024 candidate, and I don't think her 2020 primaries performance will matter at all by then. She is easily the most popular Democrat right now (actively in elected office... the Obamas don't count here)

[bobbie solo]

If your standard democrat nominees are dogshit like they have been this entire past decade it won't be a surprise if he wins. At that point you'd have to question your nomination choices because if he has the ability to be elected twice then maybe Trump isn't the fucking problem with the elections or a specific voter base like people blindly wanna dismiss. Maybe your election nominee choices turn people off. Joe Biden is basically a republican who wears blue paraphernalia. If he doesn't run who is next in line for the Dems in 2024? His VP Kamala Harris? She was so fucking terrible she bombed out in the Democratic primaries before Iowa even concluded. What a joke.

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/15/945031391/poll-despite-record-turnout-80-million-americans-didnt-vote-heres-why

A large portion (not all, but a large portion) of the 80 million people that stayed home this past November is who the current centrist bent of the Dem party is turning off. And it's exactly who they should be spending all their time & effort trying to go after, instead of trying to super serve the PMC that they already have locked up. Or worse yet, playing the riskiest game of all & focusing on trimming off juuuuuuuust enough centrist PMC Republicans to squeak by, instead of re-doubling efforts to attract the centrist working class folks they've lost to the right since NAFTA. Some may argue that they can do both at the same time, but I think the messaging is too broad to get both in any substantive way that would be a big boon at the polls.

Working class Latinos are a big focus of that article. That's the future, and that's the disaffected voter base they should concentrate on. Get them with both rhetoric & actual, real, implemented policy that they are yearning for...and the right is toast on an electoral level nationally. The Biden admin has been doing some real good so far on this front, but the messaging from Congressional leadership (and really just the Dem senators in general) is still absolutely not where it needs to be. Overall, a complete change of all Dem leadership is needed. Pelosi, Schumer, Durban, Clyburn et al are not even remotely equipped for the outreach needed to get more nonvoters, nor to fight toe to toe with the fascists on the other side. Biden has been more adept thus far (thanks mostly to CoS Ron Klain imo), but this is his last hurrah. And the less said about VP Top Cop, the better. Not equipped for any of this, and she will get lit up in 2024 if she ran against certain potential R candidates. I could see her juuuuuuust eeking out a tiny victory against others though. I hope they primary the fuck out of her if it's her in 2024, and all signs point to that happening from the actual left in the party.

I DO think she'd be in good shape in 2028 after a 2nd Biden term as long as the Biden admin doesn't stop trying to actually do things/change things. I really worry that with no structural change anywhere from his admin though, it won't be enough (and 2022 is looking grim right now for retaining the House). And there is absolutely no mention of any plans for structural change from them right now outside of HR-1/S-1, and I'm not holding my breath that the strongest reforms in the current version of the bill will make it across the finish line...again, b/c Dem leadership are weak, ill-equipped pussies. Or, maybe I'll just trot out my standard "paid to lose" line again.

[allegro]

I'll say!!

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1392887368697401351?s=20

[allegro]

We have reached “11” of cult stupid. Listen to the question from the lady in the audience.

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1392484838507155457?s=21

[versusreality]

Trump will be at a $250K per person MAGA fundraiser at his golf club in NJ next week. Disgusting.

...same type of fundraisers he had while running for election and re-election...

[bobbie solo]

Trump will be at a $250K per person MAGA fundraiser at his golf club in NJ next week. Disgusting.

...same type of fundraisers he had while running for election and re-election...

I understand your fears, but he has been raising money nonstop since losing to cover his campaign debts. No reason to think this is anything different just yet.

[richardp]

^^^... yeah and honestly all these fundraisers more than likely aren't actually to fund any kind of reelection campaign but to help pay off the ridiculous amount of debt he's accumulated.

I still believe personally that Trump WON'T run again, but will put all of his faith and führer into Josh Hawley as the candidate.

[allegro]

https://twitter.com/littlewhitty/status/1394052984674336772?s=21

[Jinsai]

Oh Rudy... you poor, miserable son of a bitch.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-has-blown-off-rudy-giulianis-pleas-for-help-as-feds-circle

[allegate]

Instead of drawing districts, it should just be "these counties right here" and that's it.

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1394836046911660033

The eagle has landed.

[allegro]

I gotta believe that Mary Trump’s giant data dump to the New York Times started this, as well as Michael Cohen’s testimony.

Bravo.

[richardp]

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1394836046911660033

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/SP5UXZ1z8b0xXPysaKcl_w--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM2MC43NTE1NjU3Nj IwMDQy/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2021-05/9802c2c0-b6ac-11eb-8ddf-6cc576081755

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1395386328414568456

can't wait to see how mad it makes him that a black man dared say that about him. and the other racists who want to be noticed by senpai? oh boy.

[hellospaceboy]

I guess Obama is the most relatable president of our lifetime, because those are exactly my thoughts too!

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/Ty___Webb/status/1397248382675030020

[elevenism]

Nice to see Marjorie Taylor Green carrying the torch.

After comparing having to wear a mask in the House to being a JEW IN THE HOLOCAUST,

she doubled down, saying that "every rational Jew didn't like Nazi Germany, just like every rational Jew is against Pelosi asking us to wear masks in the House."

Lololololol, I'm fucking dead.

Keep in mind that this is the lady who blamed the 2018 California wildfires on Jewish Space Lasers, and ran, more or less, as a member of the Qanon party.

[Jinsai]

Nice to see Marjorie Taylor Green carrying the torch.

After comparing having to wear a mask in the House to being a JEW IN THE HOLOCAUST,

she doubled down, saying that "every rational Jew didn't like Nazi Germany, just like every rational Jew is against Pelosi asking us to wear masks in the House."

Lololololol, I'm fucking dead.

Keep in mind that this is the lady who blamed the 2018 California wildfires on Jewish Space Lasers, and ran, more or less, as a member of the Qanon party.

The GOP is really betting on the wrong horse here. They actually seem convinced that if they ditch Trump and this Qanon stuff, that they're doomed. I don't get it. You guys are running out of time to act like reasonable people, and this isn't something you can reclaim later if it goes too far.

[Magnetic]

I think it's gone too far. The GOP has found the new way to control their ignorant mass, and they're going with it. They don't have standards, as long as they're in control. If Trump falls, they'll find another rabid idiot to replace him. Until then, they'll use Trump as their standard bearer.

[elevenism]

I'm with Magnetic on this one.

People LOVE this shit. I guarantee you tens of millions of assholes are ANGRY that MTG is receiving any blowback for this. This shit makes them STRONGER: now, they can say that poor MTG is being persecuted by far left PC culture.

And I mean, I'm certain that 98% of Republican lawmakers KNOW better, but they won't speak up. And it's because, their voters, and their loudest, most offensive proponents, with, and including trump as their Dear Leader, are the useful idiots who will keep the establishment in power.

[Jinsai]

if the GOP on large thinks it's a great strategy to get all full-on Info Wars w/ shit, godspeed. You fuckers will never hold power again. Yes, they've always pandered to nuts... but I think Republicans have always viewed Evangelicals as useful idiots. I don't think the majority of the conservative party is going to really go along with this sort of madness. Maybe if they'd won that last election... but they didn't. They're "doing an autopsy" now, and I don't understand anyone there who is scratching their head about whether the whole Trump/Q thing was a great idea that worked out well for them.

[Magnetic]

Really? Then explain what happened with Liz Cheney.

[Jinsai]

Really? Then explain what happened with Liz Cheney.

It really is strange, but I don't think the Trump train has much steam left. She is probably a casualty in that she was one of the first to step up and say "ok enough of this bullshit!"

Or maybe it really is like that Twilight Zone episode, "It's a Good Life." I remember after Trump first got elected, I saw that episode and it resonated so hard for me. I was actually in tears at the end. "Won't someone take a lamp or something and end this!!!!?" So yeah, Liz Cheney got sent into the cornfield. But this isn't sustainable. It's gonna end, and the people who facilitated any part of this madness will be shamed in history books. And yes, I do think that sort of shame matters to these people, if they really believe they'll be shamed.

[Magnetic]

But this isn't sustainable. It's gonna end, and the people who facilitated any part of this madness will be shamed in history books. And yes, I do think that sort of shame matters to these people, if they really believe they'll be shamed.

I hope you're right, but I respectfully disagree. The misinformation horse is out of the barn, and I think they're going to ride it for all it's worth.

[allegate]

and as long as they control as many states as they do it will not get better.

https://twitter.com/DVNJr/status/1397521538828623877

further down that thread there's this:

https://twitter.com/MaryPatFlynn1/status/1134941064727539714

huh.

[ekrekel]

Waco (https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3dp8j/gun-church-that-worships-with-ar-15s-bought-a-40-acre-compound-in-texas-for-its-patriots)(Everyone gets a tiara edition) (https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3dp8j/gun-church-that-worships-with-ar-15s-bought-a-40-acre-compound-in-texas-for-its-patriots)

https://video-images.vice.com/articles/60afabefd7d913009ceb442b/lede/1622125718300-moonie-gun-church.jpeg

Sorry for the big picture, I tried to reformat and I gave up.

[ickyvicky]

^^^ that's insane

[allegate]

You know what, the one good thing I can say is that while they're obviously nuts they do at least practice gun safety better than your typical gun nut.

[Magnetic]

I mean, I think it's interesting that they're secure in themselves to embrace pink. I don't know too many gun-crazy nuts who experiment with fashion that much....

[tony.parente]

Trump is telling people he thinks he'll be 'reinstated' as president in August (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-expects-to-be-reinstated-as-president-august-2021-6)

[GulDukat]

Trump is telling people he thinks he'll be 'reinstated' as president in August (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-expects-to-be-reinstated-as-president-august-2021-6)

Give it a rest.

[tony.parente]

Give it a rest.
This could lead to another insurrection, his remaining followers are the most rabid over him.

[Patrick_Nicholas]

Trump is telling people he thinks he'll be 'reinstated' as president in August (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-expects-to-be-reinstated-as-president-august-2021-6)

Trump is telling people to forget that the government simply doesn't work that way. His next chance at being "reinstated" will be in 2024, IF he's neither dead nor in jail.

I get the impression that people really do think that if anything happens to a President, the runner-up of the preceding election will take their place, given how Trump and his base seem to equate impeachment with the Democrats/media being jealous that he was elected instead of Hillary Clinton. It's pretty ironic how the same people who spent four years yelling "you lost, get over it" would rather burn the whole country down than accept that the Trump era is over.

[GulDukat]

This could lead to another insurrection, his remaining followers are the most rabid over him.
Yeah. Those fuckers in Congress need to speak up.

[Jinsai]

The really fucked up part here, is if through some weird power play or loophole, Trump actually did get reinstated as President in August, it would rip this country to pieces. I don’t know if he really thinks this is plausible, or if all this is part of a 2024 bid, but it’s not going to happen. I hope Trump gets everyone worked up thinking “the Storm is finally coming!” What’s it going to take for all the pizzagate q people to realize “ohhhh, I’m an idiot!”

[Erneuert]

I see this thread title and I keep thinking of the line from Descending on Fear Inoc.

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/MikeDrucker/status/1400102548237963264

:rolleyes:

[versusreality]

he'll be on Parlor

[Jinsai]

nah, you really think he's going to accept a social media platform where he can't tell people that he's their "favorite president," without knowing deep down that tens of millions of those "followers" actually despise him? Trump doesn't want an echo chamber where everyone tells him that they love him... especially the sort of people he hates to have to deal with when they clean his golf cart or push the dessert tray. He wants to hear that the woman who just had to clean his toilet thinks he's a complete fucking bastard. That's really what gets him off, and it's been the formula his whole life.

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1400534119029694465?s=20


American politicians do not lose their reelection races only to be reinstalled later on, as might the second-place horse in a race whose winner was disqualified.

Oh, double burn.

[GulDukat]

haha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UAi10MNWSs

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/scalzi/status/1400909735520518144?s=20

[Jinsai]

I wonder if Trump realizes his legacy is going to be “after sucking off the kkk, he tried unsuccessfully to start a civil war, because he was a big baby and he didn’t like that he’s a gigantic, enormous loser. Like a BIG loser.

A TREMENDOUS LOOOOOOOOOOSER

Like... wouldn't it be a great thing if we could just try to work as a society to supplant the word "bitch" with "Trump" in some common usage. Like, imagine a father trying to instill some lessons about sportsmanship, and his son has just lost a baseball game, and he's all sad and pissed because it was his fault, and he's like "DAD! I messed up... I'm a loser!"

And the father responds angrily with "Listen son! Today... today you might have lost, but that doesn't make you a loser. But you know what makes you a complete Trump? If you don't walk over and shake the hands of that team that just beat you...because they did. You lost. You have to accept that, and be an adult about it. Not a complete crybaby Trump. No son of mine is gonna be a fucking Trump. So you go over there, shake some hands, and don't tell mom I said the t-word"

[allegro]

Pantsgate (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-wear-pants-backwards/).

Was he wearing his pants backward? Are they Sansabelt? Did he poop his pants?

The guy can't seem to afford a good tailor. His sleeves are always too long, and he wears those ENORMOUS tapered slacks. And he's always wrinkly and disheveled. And the too-long ties, ugh. The suits always LOOK cheap, even though he's buying really expensive suits.

It's not a good look, ever.

His biggest intended message this weekend? "Get the vaccine, vaccine is good, I got the vaccine, I'm responsible for the vaccines."

Which is making his supporters' heads spin. "Nooooooooooo!"

Meanwhile, Pantsgate.

https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2021/06/GettyImages-1233293238.jpg

[Jinsai]

And the too-long ties, ugh. Didn't Chris Christie say that Trump suggested he should try wearing a longer tie because it's "slimming" or something? I really feel like I remember hearing this...

[allegro]

Didn't Chris Christie say that Trump suggested he should try wearing a longer tie because it's "slimming" or something? I really feel like I remember hearing this...

I Googled it; guess so (https://www.thecut.com/2019/01/why-donald-trump-wears-long-ties-chris-christie-book.html).

He's WRONG, but whatever.

[allegate]

borrowing from a friend
Trump was back in NC yesterday.


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[allegro]

And THIS is why I will never move. I'm comfortable in my lovely liberal educated heaven. Away from those idiots.

[allegro]

MJT: Dumb and Dumber

1) Nearly everything she demands is Trump’s fault and occurred under the Trump administration

2) Check out her deadline

https://twitter.com/repmtg/status/1400916114620702729?s=21

[allegate]

June 31st? Wow. Biden should agree to provide the information on June 31st and then just do nothing.

it would be great trolling but no one in this administration is cool enough to do that.

edit: I can't wait for the "I/she didn't say that" crowd to get started.

[ickyvicky]

omg June 31st lmao :p

[cdm]

Presented without comment:

619

[allegate]

I just snorted in my office.

Jesus wept...these people are the dumbest motherfuckers.

[ickyvicky]

"Man posed as Trump's family steals thousands from supporters arrested"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-posed-trump-s-family-steal-thousands-supporters-prosecutors-say-n1270089

[Jinsai]

"Man posed as Trump's family steals thousands from supporters arrested"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-posed-trump-s-family-steal-thousands-supporters-prosecutors-say-n1270089

What's most infuriating about this story... actually, I don't know what the "most" obnoxious part of this is....

Is it that: The scam "gay voices for Trump" generated money?
Is it that: Now that this guy was caught trying to scam people, he's still not giving up the ghost and is still claiming he's gay for Trump, or at least bi
Is it that: Nobody covering this is talking about how this is just one of tons of scams to extort money from moronic Trump supporters
Is it that: Trump himself (along with his campaign) pulled this scam off way more effectively?
Is it that: This guy who is barely old enough to buy a beer just thought he was going to actually get away with this? Dude, you are a stupid person. In order to pull off a grifter scheme like Trump has pulled off his whole life, you don't start off broke. You need a team of lawyers. You need people smarter than you in the room who know that your best interests benefit them. You need what you don't have. So yeah, you'll go to fucking jail, and Trump never will. Goddamn it.

[Erneuert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkliinjFeA8 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PkliinjFeA8)

[ickyvicky]

Trump Organization CFO surrenders ahead of today's expected charges. Let's see what comes out today!

[ickyvicky]

In the words of Winnie the Pooh, "Oh, bother...."

Trump Sues Facebook, Google, Twitter over censorship

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/07/trump-says-he-is-suing-facebook-google-twitter-dorsey-zuckerberg-pichai.html

[Erneuert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pt1SdyfEPw (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9pt1SdyfEPw)

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1414920040521023489

https://media.giphy.com/media/WOqVe1XN0ollS/giphy.gif

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/lukeharding1968/status/1415612838882721794

I'm actually more interested in the leak than the information. I mean, the information is "duh" to the highest order but that someone in Putin's chain leaked something? Is this the beginning of his end? Or - more likely - is this a calculated leak from him to discredit Trump further? No longer a viable asset so burn him?

[Jinsai]

I'd say that his destabilizing influence over the GOP and his deluded hysterical fanbase is still a clear asset to Russian interests.

[allegro]

Or - more likely - is this a calculated leak from him to discredit Trump further? No longer a viable asset so burn him?
Yes.

[BRoswell]

And those who are afraid of reprisal come to power with their minorities like Floyd and all the rest.

Floyd as in George Floyd? If so, that's an incredibly fucked up thing to say.

[botley]

Floyd as in George Floyd? If so, that's an incredibly fucked up thing to say.


Probably because a troll farm wrote it.

[Swykk]

8 months lol. What a joke

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/politics/capitol-riot-felony-paul-hodgkins/index.html

[sweeterthan]

Probably because a troll farm wrote it.

use that report button yo


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[allegro]

8 months lol. What a joke

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/politics/capitol-riot-felony-paul-hodgkins/index.html

This sentence is specific to this one guy, because he pleaded guilty right away and didn't commit any violence.

The judge said: "Hodgkins did some very bad things that day and caused some real damage to this country, but I don't consider him to be a threat or see him as an evil person. This is a very bad episode in his life and a very bad episode in this country ... some sentences will be far higher, and some will be far lower. This is what I believe is a fair sentence."

The article says: "In addition to prison, Hodgkins was ordered to pay $2,000 to repair damage to the Capitol."


Yes, as pointed out on Twitter, in comparison to the black woman who made a mistake and voted while still on probation for a felony because she didn't know she wasn't allowed to do that and was sentenced to 5 years in prison, this does show how racism works in this country.

I'm currently reading this book (https://www.epi.org/publication/the-color-of-law-a-forgotten-history-of-how-our-government-segregated-america/).

[Jinsai]

considering that Trump is now (and likely will remain) the only US president to be impeached twice, you'd think he'd want to avoid talking about "trying to impeach the son of a bitch." You'd figure he'd have at least enough self awareness to stay away from that topic.

[allegate]

the flip side of that is he thinks "hey it happened to me twice so it must be pretty easy" and wants his revenge.

[Jinsai]

the flip side of that is he thinks "hey it happened to me twice so it must be pretty easy" and wants his revenge.

that and he's just so accustomed to getting his way by just insisting he get it... and all he wants now is to not go down in history as the worst president of all time, and despite his protestations, self-adoration, and bullshit, he knows he's being considered for the accolade.

And he thinks if only we can impeach Joe Biden twice, then maybe he'll break even at least.

[allegate]

I don't think it's going to work out too well for him.

Especially when the Dems suddenly grow a pair?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1417884620805320706

[ickyvicky]

^^ Thank god

[allegro]

https://twitter.com/repkinzinger/status/1419329112125149187?s=21

[GulDukat]

The testimony today made me want to cry.

[versusreality]

and yet republicans are saying it's "political theater" and they are "crisis actors"

I thought they blacked the blue? of course, I'm being sarcastic. they don't give a fuck about them if the blue is speaking out.

[BRoswell]

and yet republicans are saying it's "political theater" and they are "crisis actors"

I thought they blacked the blue? of course, I'm being sarcastic. they don't give a fuck about them if the blue is speaking out.

Blue lives only matter if those lives are acting as foot soldiers for their agenda.

[allegate]

Not sure any other current events reveal the actual state of the Republican party as well as these hearings.


https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1420046489473232899
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1420024623987572746https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1420026281605963781
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1420030935484059649
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1420036619982229513


The party that adopted Back the Blue as both rallying cry and badge of honor will do everything within its power to sabotage an investigation into an act of violence against police officers, if the circumstances mean that supporting them is no longer politically convenient.


The party that decries purity tests and accuses opponents of being held hostage by extremists will reject and despise its own members, if they don't support an effort to memory hole and minimize violent acts taken by its own extremists.


The party that fetishizes the physical imagery of American democracy and spent half of last year arguing that when the left is done pulling down statues of Nathan Bedford Forrest, George Washington is probably next...couldn't really give a shit that a crowd trashed the Capitol building while an election was being certified.


On each of the above topics....police support, opposition to political purity tests, enshrinement of American iconography....the party and its media supporters have produced rational, reasonable arguments. And yet in each instance, the response to January 6 seems to demonstrate that those arguments were cynically appropriated in order to provide a talking point against perceived political opponents, rather than coming from an intrinsic and lasting belief. They were each, in their way, disposable. Without cost or care.


This comes back to a question yesterday, too, I'm sad to say:

I wonder if Trump had been reelected would the vaccination rates be higher?
At the heart of this question is a quiet recognition that broad swaths of the worldview are currently determined by whether or not believing a thing is true means believing the libs are wrong and/or evil. We're all left to wonder: would millions of thinking adults take a life-saving vaccine only if they felt the vaccine had come from "their" political side? Or is there literally no issue whose fate isn't capable of being re-positioned daily on that lone, guiding fulcrum of hatred for libs?something I pulled from elsewhere.

[allegro]

There are Trump people on Twitter saying they don't believe any of that "until they see the body cam footage."

So, they trust police only when it suits their own narrative; otherwise, police are liars or deserve a "performance award."

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1420209713644331009?s=20f

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1420212651120992263?s=20

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1420180649395302404?s=20

[allegate]

totally honest: I haven't watched a single bit of this because A) I already know what happened and B) I don't need to be that angry all over again. Even reading that is like one step from joining a Mad Max style caravan to New York.

Also don't Google 'fox hq' on a work computer. fingers crossed that IT was looking the other way just now.

[GulDukat]

and yet republicans are saying it's "political theater" and they are "crisis actors"

I thought they blacked the blue? of course, I'm being sarcastic. they don't give a fuck about them if the blue is speaking out.
I really hate the Republican party.

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/OversightDems/status/1421131313319399425

no words on this

edit:

this, though?

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1421162559923576834

woo-fucking-hoo.

[Jinsai]

I haven't been following this too closely (I've been moving into a new apartment, busy, and in general enjoying a break from it all), but I'm not following what those handwritten notes there are in regards to, or who the note was intended for?

EDIT: Ah, I looked into it... This is really to be expected isn't it though? And even then, could it be considered evidence that he actually said those things? He can just claim the notes are wrong.

[october_midnight]

Possibly the funniest thing I've seen in months.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFUr6Px99aQ

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/oib_the/status/1421967721009487877

I see they have run out of dog whistles in the Cawthorn household.

[allegro]

^^ What the fuck?????

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1421931374567563264

this is an amazing thread. there's got to be a word for the projection that Trump has done about things that end up being things that he/his people did.

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1423290063048253442

honestly don't know what to do with this kind of introspection from a Republican. was it accidental? I know that Walsh had an eye-opening moment prior to the election but also it's hard to separate the usual grift (think the Lincoln Project and how they're raising money from Democatic outrage for Republican efforts) from this type of post.

[ickyvicky]

At least they're acknowledging it?

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1425590750788476931?s=20

633

[versusreality]

lol, Mike Pillow's cyber convention thingie has been a total failure.

[allegate]

lol, Mike Pillow's cyber convention thingie has been a total failure.
Not totally, we got this from it:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1425605637808037890?s=20

[Mantra]

Maybe he just had to pee.

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1428397146160631808

oh ffs.

[ickyvicky]

Bomb threat at Capitol https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/politics/us-capitol-suspected-explosives/index.html

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/ChuckWendig/status/1428409216092495873

"guys, we have no idea how to do this"

alternatively: guy-in-hot-dog-costume.jpg

https://twitter.com/nirvananoir/status/1428374898557259779

[allegate]

I'm so glad that the white terrorist was arrested without incident. I mean, who doesn't have a bad day and try to blow up a...library.

Speaking of white terrorists:

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/)

https://media3.giphy.com/media/6JB4v4xPTAQFi/giphy.gif

[allegate]

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1429839739595722756

I can't keep using the "oh no" gif.

[allegate]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9vrjbsXoAULGR_?format=jpg&name=900x900

[wampa]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9vrjbsXoAULGR_?format=jpg&name=900x900
hahahaha the quotes at the end

[Jinsai]

I still do not get why they didn't just shoot the guy in the truck claiming to have a bomb.

Really... I get this notion that "all life is sacred" or whatever, and I understand that making examples out of people by killing them is generally not the most effective strategy, but blow that guy's head off already. We have been pussyfooting around way too much with these people, and so they feel entitled to do stuff like run into Walmart without a mask and sit on the floor and cry about freedom and their feelings. Fuck your feelings, remember?

We can't have some weird society where we tolerate someone dressing up like Chewbacca and raiding the capitol building with a spear, right before we kindly put him in jail and make sure he has a gluten free diet that's organic or WTF is going on? I've run out of every shred of patience.

At this point, I want mask mandates, vaccine passports, and potentially lethal enforcement of those rules. This disease is going to kill us all if we don't stop these idiots from bravely telling us to fuck off because we can't do anything about it.

[Demogorgon]

and potentially lethal enforcement of those rules.

So... let me see if i'm reading you right. You want people who don't use masks and don't get the vaccine to be executed? Is that what you're asking for?

[Space Suicide]

So... let me see if i'm reading you right. You want people who don't use masks and don't get the vaccine to be executed? Is that what you're asking for?

Yes, you are reading that properly. That is exactly what he said. I almost replied and called out this shitpost last night when I seen it but had second thoughts because I didn’t want to get dog piled and argue for 2 pages over nothing because I’m not changing the guy’s mind anyways. BUT fuck it.

Like I'm not even trying to be a dickhead but @Jinsai (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=272) must be suffering some sort of added stress or mental crisis with this pandemic shit. He's literally advocating on police authoritarianism because some goofy assholes caught in social media video clips don't comply with what Fauci God (the same dude who mishandled AIDS in the 80's) and governmental talking heads say on the news cycles in regards to "public health" reasons. He cares about "health" so much then outright says to splatter someone's brain matter with a firearm because they don't wear a paper mask in Walmart because they need to. He's either a homicidal maniac or just emotional? Either way the virtuous moral compass is broken where even though he doesn't agree with people instead of extending an olive branch he shoves an assault rifle in their face for death because they won't comply. You're two sides of the same extreme, intolerant coin. That's why I can't get behind half of these bonkers bullshit topics these days, people are extreme to the max and rarely try to see other's viewpoints whether they're WRONG or not. Then again, real critical thinkers listen to all opinions and not echo chambers. Shit like that is why American citizens have poor relation issues these days. The post two posts above illustrates it. You might think these people are stupid and insane for being so dangerous and unruly with reality but don't act like you're on a virtuous crusade on your high horse because you're not. Most of your posts in this area of the board are just dunking on republican retards on here.

The dude's worried about other people's behavior more than his own. He typed out a sentence to kill people with lethal force because of wanted mandates online on a forum. That's insane.

As for the FrEeD0M FiGTh3rZ he's talking about, yeah they are indeed stupid with their anti-vaccine and non-compliance rhetoric but get the fuck over it. Unless you're clamored around a gaggle of them and your health is in direct danger because of it than who cares. When your government lies, gaslights and destroys your trust over 2 decades of bogus news angles you reap what you sow. You're supposed to trust the same government that lied for years about Weapons of Mass Destruction and tons of other things from history (Gulf of Tonkin, etc.)? Yeah right. Hell, Fauci himself lied about wearing masks at the start of this thing last year. I'm not even a QAnon stan, rigged election truther, conspiracy nut or Trumper but I get why someone like that would behave how they are right now. In today's current climate where compassion has gone out the window from both sides we've made a horrible society to live in.

[Swykk]

Fauci didn’t lie. The science changed (we learned more about the virus as time went on). I think he advised wearing masks in good faith, and look, let’s say he didn’t. It STILL protects others and is more protection than not wearing one.
@Jinsai (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=272) I’ll say I’m not so much for killing those who refuse to wear masks though I understand your perspective. I want the vaccine to be mandated. Hell, here comes old man Dave, but back in my day, they pretty much were. Good luck going to school in the 80s if you weren’t. By the way, I was fighting leukemia from 1980-1986, and I still got the vaccines. These weak ass little bitch brain dead choads eating horse paste and shitting themselves? It’s time for Biden to mandate the vaccine. It’s FDA approved now. No more excuses. Fuck their libertarian and MAGA chud (despite Trump eventually telling these knuckle draggers to get it) conspiracy theory bullshit.

It’s time for this pandemic to end.

Federally mandate it. Schools and companies should follow suit.* You want to fight it? Good luck getting anywhere. No restaurant, school, grocery store, venue, airport, workplace—NOBODY will let you in anywhere. You’ll be a hermit screeching on the internet. So yeah, I’m all in on vaccine passports.

MUH LIBURTEES. Fuck you, you dimwitted cowardly dunce cap little turds. You’re done here. I have NO COMPASSION for these people.

And drag these fake ass attention seeking “journalists” and “doctors” pushing these nonsense theories in front of panels and strip them of their credentials. You failed at your jobs. Now you need to find something else to do.

*Before my ass is jumped, obviously there would be folks that would be temporarily exempt per proven medical conditions, treatments, etc.

[Jinsai]

No. What I’m saying is if you run up in someone’s face and refuse to stop, while refusing to comply with safety precautions whereby you could be transmitting a lethal disease, people should have the right to defend themselves

This disease kills people.

...and really, I should "get the fuck over it?" I am not going to presume that you've lost anyone to this virus, or that you've had someone literally cough in your face and call you a sheep for wearing a mask, and I get that this actually doesn't entirely belong in this thread at this point, but sorry, yeah, I'm pissed, and I'm not going to "get the fuck over it."

[ltrandazzo]

I'm going to lock this thread for a beat so that everyone can take a few breaths and decompress.
Jinsai - calling for potentially lethal enforcement is a loaded statement that doesn't do anyone any good. Please rethink that as a solution because it's not particularly viable much less ethical.
Demogorgon and Space Suicide - responding with speculative statements that escalate said loaded statement also doesn't do anyone good because you're provoking an escalated reaction which is counterintuitive to the report Demo sent in suggesting we lock the thread. Throwing gasoline on a smoldering fire and then calling the fire department in to put the fire out is quite a strategy.