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Swykk

09-03-2016, 07:56 AM

http://giantswire.usatoday.com/2016/09/02/lena-dunham-rips-new-york-giants-odell-beckham-jr/

He was probably scared she's gonna eat him

Look, here's the thing. Lena Dunham is not my favorite person. Girls is decent (but has admittedly dropped off in quality over the last few seasons) but it really rubbed me wrong how blind and simple her HRC support is. She's the figurehead of "VOTE HRC CUZ SHE IS A WOMAN AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON U NEED!" crowd, and I think that's an incredibly inept method of choosing the president. So I criticized her (and those who agree with her) for it.

You're fat shaming her. And now I have to defend her because fuck you, you sad shallow turd. That's all you got? A fat joke? Comedy is not your thing. You're a sentient YouTube comment.

telee.kom

09-03-2016, 08:22 AM

Maybe take a deep breath mate? Never seen anyone so fired up over a stupid joke.

Anyway, screw her. All she's doing her whole career is playing a victim. Even when the guy is not talking to her, it's somehow a problem and she's the victim of society or whatever. So yeah, all I got is a fat joke if she wants to be a victim so much.

Swykk

09-03-2016, 08:26 AM

You're proving me right as you might as well have posted, "U mad bro?"

Nice edit.

allegro

09-03-2016, 11:53 AM

Look, the "joke" in Lena Dunham's comment is stupid, (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/lena-dunham-responds-backlash-story-odell-beckham-jr/story?id=41843596), and as much as I don't like to rip (cough) "feminists" (in this case I hesitate to use the term), she shouldn't say shit like that. She said it was self-deprecating, but that is a great disservice to women out there who aren't tiny skinny. And, it's also a disservice to that football player, A BLACK DUDE ... come on, brothers tend to NOT LIKE SKINNY WOMEN. Is Lena Dunham so WHITE that she doesn't know that? I don't understand any of this stupid shit she said, it was a complete waste of my time and I wish she'd shut up, honestly. She isn't doing the world any good with her "jokes." The truth is that the football player probably DIDN'T KNOW WHO THE FUCK SHE WAS, SHE WAS JUST SOME WHITE CHICK SITTING NEXT TO HIM AND SHE'S ASSUMING HE'S SOME POON HOUND WHO WANTS TO FUCK EVERY CHICK SITTING NEXT TO HIM ... NOW who is making stereotypes??

And, telee.kom, up yours for wasting my time with this shit, ugh. I'll never get that time back, ugh... ugh ugh ugh. Drivel.

Khrz

09-03-2016, 05:18 PM

elevenism

09-03-2016, 06:26 PM

That's nice Khrz , but it makes me want to make a big deal out of how i sat next to some well known lady and say "and, Hell's Bells! She looked at me like she DIDN'T WANT TO LET ME FUCK! and that just isn't RIGHT!"

Khrz

09-03-2016, 06:45 PM

Well according to my statement that would be moronic, and you'd have to go through the whole "write a thoughtful apology and admitting your wrongs", which is really too big a hassle.
When celebrities don't want to fuck me during glamorous parties, I just assume they're intimidated by my virile demeanor and my overwhelmingly magnetic charm.
It's way simpler and I don't feel like shit afterwards!

allegro

09-04-2016, 12:36 PM

She went to the Met Gala wearing a TUXEDO and then boo-hoo'd that she isn't like the "models and swan-like actresses" in attendance. Darling, if you are a female and you show up at the MET GALA (a high fashion event where everyone is there to gawk at the fashion), you gotta either OWN it or STAY HOME (or hire a stylist). But constantly publicly whining about it does no good. Tilda Swinton is an "unconventional" female, wears menswear to red carpet events and owns it, flaunts it, gives zero shits. Lady Gaga has worn a dress made of MEAT on a red carpet. Bjork wore a dress that looked like a DEAD SWAN. Public displays of insecurity and resentment is not a costume.

I am glad she at least publicly apologized to that man.

Btw, here is Grimes at the 2016 Met Gala:
http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201642/rs_634x1024-160502161127-634-MET-GALA-Arrivals-grimes.jpg

Meanwhile, these 3 opted to deliberately go this route (Dunham is on right):
https://laviedesoleil.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/jenni-konner-jenna-lyons-lena-dunham-j-crew.jpg

telee.kom

09-04-2016, 01:04 PM

I love Grimes, but that's horrible looking dress

allegro

09-04-2016, 01:09 PM

She was on the Worst Dressed list.

And there was Dunham, whining about herself when poor Grimes was wearing that dress that looked like it had been made by a blind 7th grade sewing class. And those SHOES. And the eyebrows. Yeah, Ms. Dunham is full of shit. I wanna give Grimes a hug.

WorzelG

09-04-2016, 01:18 PM

Isn't Lena Dunham BFF with lanky gorgeous Taylor Swift who parades her supermodel friends at her shows?
(That's the only way I know Lena Dunham, I don't get HBO). I thought her comment about grinding and dancing onto Michael Jordan was particularly bad and indefensible. How is she a feminist again?

orestes

09-04-2016, 07:22 PM

If by feminism, you mean "white feminism", then yeah.

elevenism

09-04-2016, 11:50 PM

Bjork's Swan Dress was awesome.

Also her sequined Michael Jackson skirt. Now THERE'S a girl with style, bizarre though it may be.

DigitalChaos

09-07-2016, 04:30 PM

She actually wrote a mature, contextualised and apparently heartfelt apology on twitter, acknowledging the problems with her discourse and explaining her thought process.
As moronic as her original statement was, that felt a lot more genuine than the usual "I'm sorry you feel that way / it's just a joke bro".
nah

Lena Dunham Is A Fuckboy (https://medium.com/@MaraJacquelineWillaford/lena-dunham-is-a-fuckboy-1c7cd247e45e)

She is even more an example of how feminism continues to get a bad name. She uses feminism as a brand to make herself money. It's bullshit.

note: this was written by one of the idiots who pushed Bernie Sanders away from his podium so they could shout about BLM, but it doesn't change the accuracy of the words.

allegro

09-07-2016, 05:55 PM

She uses feminism as a brand to make herself money. It's bullshit.
She's been getting shit for it for a while (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/04/will-white-feminists-finally-dump-lena-dunham.html).

DigitalChaos

09-07-2016, 07:25 PM

She's been getting shit for it for a while (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/04/will-white-feminists-finally-dump-lena-dunham.html).
yeah, i recall the shit she got over molesting her sister. She (and others like her) had already done a number on the reputation of modern feminism by then. A lot of people were denying the molestation as "right wing" nonsense.

It certainly didn't stop her from continuing to be a very prominent face in feminism. Then she rode the Hillary train real fucking hard. ImWithHer guys! Vote for the vagina because feminism! (yeah, she did the obnoxious "your first time" video for Obama, but I'm talking about her damage to feminism).

Assholes like her have set feminism back quite a lot. ETS is actually one of the few places I have ever been able to make statements like this without being dismissed for simply being male. I'm not sure why "white feminism" has to be the label for this... it feels incorrect even if it has become the popular term. I will admit that every "feminist" fucking things up like this certainly does seem to be white though.

allegro

09-07-2016, 10:13 PM

I'm not sure why "white feminism" has to be the label for this... it feels incorrect even if it has become the popular term.
This is a really good piece about Dunham (http://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2016/09/05/lena-dunham-is-a-monster-of-our-own-creation/#6ff584485e50).

october_midnight

09-20-2016, 10:18 AM

Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt. (http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/entertainment/angelina-jolie-brad-pitt-divorce/index.html?sr=twCNN092016angelina-jolie-brad-pitt-divorce1050AMStory)

thevoid99

09-20-2016, 03:02 PM

Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt. (http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/entertainment/angelina-jolie-brad-pitt-divorce/index.html?sr=twCNN092016angelina-jolie-brad-pitt-divorce1050AMStory)

And this is what Jennifer Aniston is doing right now....

http://i.imgur.com/TUJPoOS.gif

onthewall2983

09-22-2016, 07:51 AM

News is trickling out that some verbal and physical abuse towards the children are the reasons she filed. This is about to get ugly.

thevoid99

09-22-2016, 03:25 PM

News is trickling out that some verbal and physical abuse towards the children are the reasons she filed. This is about to get ugly.

Oh boy. I also read that there were rumors that Brad Pitt had an affair with Marion Cotillard while they were making Allies which I think is false as Cotillard, who announced her pregnancy, stated that the reports of an affair with Pitt is false.

allegro

09-22-2016, 11:48 PM

Lew

09-23-2016, 11:20 AM

The LAPD denies reports that there are child abuse charges filed against Pitt. Pitt admits he yelled at the kids on private plane but denies that he ever hit them. Jolie allegedly wants United Nations job which requires her taking kids out of country which requires her having sole physical custody of kids (https://www.google.com/amp/pagesix.com/2016/09/22/brad-pitt-admits-to-yelling-at-the-kids-but-never-hit-them/amp/?client=ms-android-att-us)

The only part of this article that makes genuine sense is regarding both parents losing control to authorities once the child protective agencies get involved. I call b.s on any other angle. (speaking as a mom)

allegro

09-23-2016, 12:35 PM

The only part of this article that makes genuine sense is regarding both parents losing control to authorities once the child protective agencies get involved. I call b.s on any other angle. (speaking as a mom)
Yeah, well, you aren't a HOLLYWOOD MOM, heh. Angelina Jolie always struck me (no pun intended) as one of these free-wheeling kinds of rich Moms, and if Mom and Dad have been having marital difficulties, and Mom wants a job with the U.N., now Mom has an angle because her attorneys gave her one. (I say this as a divorce paralegal of nearly 15 years.) There is no confirmation that she ever called the DCFS. I have seen people do some fucking SHITTY things during a divorce so one never knows what is really true.

The weirder thing is the story I linked last night, with an interview with a Sgt at the LAPD, has been completely replaced by this new story (above link) which wasn't there last night when I linked it.

This is what CNN is saying (http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/entertainment/brad-pitt-angelina-jolie/index.html).

the SHITTIEST part is that this is all public.

Lew

09-23-2016, 01:08 PM

Yeah, well, you aren't a HOLLYWOOD MOM, heh. Angelina Jolie always struck me (no pun intended) as one of these free-wheeling kinds of rich Moms, and if Mom and Dad have been having marital difficulties, and Mom wants a job with the U.N., now Mom has an angle because her attorneys gave her one. (I say this as a divorce paralegal of nearly 15 years.) There is no confirmation that she ever called the DCFS. I have seen people do some fucking SHITTY things during a divorce so one never knows what is really true.

The weirder thing is the story I linked last night, with an interview with a Sgt at the LAPD, has been completely replaced by this new story (above link) which wasn't there last night when I linked it.

This is what CNN is saying (http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/entertainment/brad-pitt-angelina-jolie/index.html).

the SHITTIEST part is that this is all public.

Ah ok fair enough...not a Hollywood mom...but I did tell mr.lew that if either of us are ever in a position where our fuck up could leave the kids in custody, whichever parent fucked up has to leave and enter therapy. Lol. I also don't get why the statement wasn't: I made a mistake under the influence, I own it, I am getting help alone and with my family.
Done, you know?

allegro

09-23-2016, 01:17 PM

Ah ok fair enough...not a Hollywood mom...but I did tell mr.lew that if either of us are ever in a position where our fuck up could leave the kids in custody, whichever parent fucked up has to leave and enter therapy. Lol. I also don't get why the statement wasn't: I made a mistake under the influence, I own it, I am getting help alone and with my family.
Done, you know?
Because I don't think that's what is happening. And in our court system here in my state, if one parent does something ("fucks up" as you said), the Courts make BOTH PARENTS go to "parenting classes" in ALL divorces, here, and you MUST get a certificate showing that you have attended these parenting classes. I believe these classes are also required in most counties in California. Yelling at a kid is not the Court's idea of a "fuck-up," it depends on how one defines "yell." They bring in experts to determine that, they don't rely on a parent to determine that. Sometimes, the Court appoints an attorney FOR THE KID(S) (Guardian Ad Litem) so that the best interests of the kids is not mixed up with the best interests of the parents. The authorities and experts would interview the child, alone, to determine if the parent actually physically or emotionally abused the child, etc. And, even then, in most cases I've dealt with, they always try to work with the parents to integrate the kids back with the parent who has the problem, they work with the parent who has the problem, etc., they don't just automatically remove custody from the parent. The only time we tend to see that is with really bad drug or alcohol abuse, neglect, or bad physical abuse, and even THEN the parent can eventually get the kid back.

In the Jolie-Pitt case, he can't get help alone and with his family, that is no longer an option; there are two reports, here, not sure which is true: One says that she is seeking SOLE physical custody of the kids with him only getting visitation, the other says that she is seeking JOINT physical custody (which is far more common these days and for which he of course will be fighting). She is probably seeking joint custody, as it seems like she really does want what is best for the kids and the family, all the way around. This doesn't seem like some kind of power play, this seems like some desperate way of making something finally happen imho.

He has a career, here, and he is trying to keep what he considers tabloid untruths from wrecking his career so he doesn't want to necessarily admit to something, nor does he want to ignore it so it grows even bigger legs. But, the press has access to Court records in CA so it comes out.

If the problem is alcoholism, that's another issue, entirely.

I don't know how it is in Canada but here in the U.S., when there are children involved, the COURT acts on behalf of the child and parents cannot "agree" on behalf of the child for anything without it being approved by the Court.

Lew

09-23-2016, 01:36 PM

Allegro: glad about the parenting classes for both, that is what I meant by counselling alone and with family.
This is a twig for me because we had a run in with CAS and the very thought of my kids being taken away shuts my mind off. It was a quick meeting and a hand shake and a case closed scenario for us, but it was terrifying to both of us. Having spoke of my fear of authorities taking children, let me also say that I spent the night before our meeting literally mantra-ing 'I a grateful Cas exists to protect children' and mean and meant it, even if mine were in need of it.
Not sure of court appointments for kids in Canada, never having needed it or knowing anyone else who did, but I would hope and expect that would be the case.

allegro

09-23-2016, 01:49 PM

Lew, unfortunately, the DCFS here in this country is not usually the best place to go for this kind of thing; many local DCFS offices don't do thorough investigations, if they DO take the kids they are put in awful locations and then the kids slip through the cracks if they don't get sold off via adoption when maybe they should have been placed with family members, etc. and it's mostly known to be a cesspool of corruption (http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/arlington-heights/community/chi-ugc-article-corruption-in-dcfs-2016-04-20-story.html) (see also this (http://medicalkidnap.com/2015/06/23/former-la-county-social-worker-reveals-corruption-in-child-protection-services/)). The "better" scenario is the divorce scenario or a court and counseling scenario which of course requires MONEY and LAWYERS but these two (Jolie-Pitt) have lots and lots of money. The times you see the DCFS is most often in instances of people with substance abuse or neglect and no money or the ability to pay for counseling, lawyers, etc.

telee.kom

09-23-2016, 06:36 PM

http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/09/adele-would-fank-you-kindly-if-you-stopped-manspreading/

Finally!

thevoid99

09-23-2016, 08:18 PM

In other non-Brangelina news, Monty Python co-founder Terry Jones has been diagnosed with a rare form of dementia: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/health/terry-jones-monty-python-aphasia/

:(

miss k bee

09-24-2016, 12:33 PM

In other non-Brangelina news, Monty Python co-founder Terry Jones has been diagnosed with a rare form of dementia: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/health/terry-jones-monty-python-aphasia/

:(

What a shitty year this is

Sarah K

10-04-2016, 12:16 PM

The abject dehumanization of Kim Kardashian.

http://www.papermag.com/the-abject-dehumanization-of-kim-kardashian-2029087678.html

pcpunk

10-04-2016, 12:52 PM

That's the really fucked thing about the internet. It shows how horrible people can be when they face no repercussions for their words. I don't like Kim K, but that must have been terrifying and I'm glad that she is ok, at least physically.

Swykk

10-04-2016, 01:55 PM

Agreed, pcpunk. I do not like her at all but wouldn't wish robbery (much less rape) on her.

onthewall2983

10-04-2016, 04:17 PM

My dad committed armed robbery and went to jail when I was 11. He said recently in reference to a pharmacy getting held up that next to losing his family, he regretted having to put the women in the bank through that experience and the overall trauma the event inflicted in others. I'm neither here nor there on the Kardashians or most other tabloid fodder as they don't affect my life in anyway besides seeing their names in the headlines all the time. But I feel bad that she had to go through with that, rich or not it made me think about what my father told me about the worst thing he'd ever done in his life.

Frozen Beach

10-17-2016, 11:52 PM

The term "celebrity" is used very loosely for this one

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/devin-faraci-birth-movies-death-sexual-assault-1201885262/ (http://variety.com/2016/film/news/devin-faraci-birth-movies-death-sexual-assault-1201885262/)

allegro

10-18-2016, 12:17 AM

The term "celebrity" is used very loosely for this one

http://www.ideachampions.com/weblogs/Confused.jpg

Frozen Beach

10-18-2016, 12:44 AM

What I mean by that is that he's not really a celebrity, he's just some popular/known guy on the internet. This is really the closest thread to being appropriate to post it in.

allegro

10-18-2016, 01:43 AM

What I mean by that is that he's not really a celebrity, he's just some popular/known guy on the internet. This is really the closest thread to being appropriate to post it in.
The above image means I've never heard of the guy OR the web site so, yeah, you were right in that the term "celebrity" is used loosely.

Edit: gross, though. But at least he admitted it and apologized and quit.

mfte

11-02-2016, 09:45 AM

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37845314

Geeeez

richardp

11-02-2016, 10:24 AM

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37845314

Geeeez

I get what they're going for with this, and I don't doubt that all parties involved have great intentions, but HOLY FUCK is this misguided as hell.

Archive_Reports

11-02-2016, 04:09 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foUCJSifs7o

thevoid99

11-02-2016, 04:21 PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37845314

Geeeez

Goddamnit Bono! Do you have to win every fucking award just to prove that you're not a fucking turd?

http://3.images.southparkstudios.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-11/1109/south-park-s11e09c14-bono-is-crap-16x9.jpg?quality=0.8

allegro

11-02-2016, 04:41 PM

I get what they're going for with this, and I don't doubt that all parties involved have great intentions, but HOLY FUCK is this misguided as hell.

It's Glamour magazine, they're misguided as hell anyway. Women don't expect much of them.

Dra508

11-22-2016, 11:16 AM

http://people.com/celebrity/kanye-west-feels-like-hes-under-spiritual-attack/

Oh Kanye Kanye Kanye

Aren't sleep deprivation, dehydration, exhaustion, just euphemism for drug use?

Deepvoid

11-22-2016, 11:52 AM

http://people.com/celebrity/kanye-west-feels-like-hes-under-spiritual-attack/

Oh Kanye Kanye Kanye

Aren't sleep deprivation, dehydration, exhaustion, just euphemism for drug use?

"Under spiritual attack"? He is possessed or something? WTF does that even mean?

Sarah K

11-22-2016, 12:27 PM

He's on a 5150. It is not funny.

Dra508

11-25-2016, 03:54 PM

He's on a 5150. It is not funny.topic du jour - fake news.

allegro

11-25-2016, 03:58 PM

topic du jour - fake news.

No, he really was taken in (by force) for a psychiatric evaluation (http://perezhilton.com/2016-11-21-kanye-west-hospitalized-cancel-tour-rant-saint-pablo-tour-donald-trump-beyonce-jay-z/?from=post#.WDiz16IrJBJ) and he's still in the hospital.

Louie_Cypher

11-25-2016, 04:01 PM

just reading/watching pizzagate interesting stuff.
-loue

Dra508

11-25-2016, 04:49 PM

No, he really was taken in (by force) for a psychiatric evaluation (http://perezhilton.com/2016-11-21-kanye-west-hospitalized-cancel-tour-rant-saint-pablo-tour-donald-trump-beyonce-jay-z/?from=post#.WDiz16IrJBJ) and he's still in the hospital.Funny - this person, Hilton Hater rolls up with no 5150.

Either way, it's all subterfuge for him using, don'tchathing?

allegro

11-25-2016, 06:31 PM

Funny - this person, Hilton Hater rolls up with no 5150.

Either way, it's all subterfuge for him using, don'tchathing?

eh? No comprendo.

Oh, yeah, there was no 5150 (http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/11/kanye-west-911-call-released-5150-rumor-debunked/), but he was still handcuffed to the gurney.

No, I don't think he's on drugs, I think he's not taking his meds (or has not been prescribed the right meds) is what I think.

Khrz

11-25-2016, 06:47 PM

Yeah, less than drugs it sounds like a bipolar "high".

GulDukat

11-25-2016, 07:32 PM

Sad to hear of the passing of Florence Henderson. If you came of age in the 70's/80's and watched reruns of the Brady Bunch, she was your TV mom. RIP.

Dra508

11-25-2016, 08:33 PM

Yeah, less than drugs it sounds like a bipolar "high".

By bipolar makes you paranoid? I dunno.

Sarah K

11-26-2016, 12:44 PM

Yeah, the 5150 seems to have been inaccurate. However, he has spoken about his mental health struggles on his albums for years. He is still hospitalized. It is a scary situation.

Swykk

12-21-2016, 12:07 PM

Lena Dunham continues to bruise feminism and liberalism alike with the things she chooses to say:
http://ew.com/news/2016/12/20/lena-dunham-abortion-comment/

Archive_Reports

12-21-2016, 12:22 PM

Lena Dunham continues to bruise feminism and liberalism alike with the things she chooses to say:
http://ew.com/news/2016/12/20/lena-dunham-abortion-comment/

I'm not sure she knows the definition of the word "joke".

allegro

12-21-2016, 12:26 PM

I'm not sure she knows the definition of the word "joke".

She knew what she was saying wasn't a joke; she says inflammatory shit in a lame attempt to be the Queen of Feminists, BUT SHE'S A FUCKING FRAUD. She has NO idea what she's talking about BECAUSE SHE IS A FUCKING MORON.

Sarah K

12-21-2016, 12:34 PM

Just had this discussion... Peak white feminism. She is the example that I always use.

Archive_Reports

12-21-2016, 01:01 PM

Just had this discussion... Peak white feminism. She is the example that I always use.

I understand your sentiment here, but why did her race need to be some sort of qualifier?

Sarah K

12-21-2016, 01:10 PM

allegro

12-21-2016, 02:14 PM

Because that's exactly what it is. Middle to upper class white feminism is a really big problem. It becomes entirely self serving and leaves most of the people fighting for equality behind. It focuses on the plight of the straight, cis, white woman. It completely ignores intersectionality.

It ignores a whole lot of other shit, too, like LOGIC.

Who the FUCK says STUPID shit like "I wish I'd had an abortion" except a dumb fucking MORON who is using "FEMINISM" as a way to be "cool" just like she probably used "VAMPIRE" in 7th grade?

An abortion is a painful, awful, tearful, agonizing decision that affects plenty of poor white and black chicks (I've KNOWN many), yet she makes this like, "wow, I wish I'd gotten my HEAD SHAVED LIKE YOU REALLY COOL CANCER PATIENTS GETTING CHEMO, THAT'S SO TOTALLY RAD, CAN I GET CANCER, TOO!?!??"

She's an attention-seeking MORON.

thevoid99

12-21-2016, 09:50 PM

Didn't she also molest her own sister?

october_midnight

12-23-2016, 03:35 PM

If there's a silver lining, it's that I'm posting this here and not in...well, you know.

Carrie Fisher has apparently suffered a massive heart attack and stopped breathing on a flight a bit ago. No other news yet.

Bachy

12-23-2016, 04:00 PM

Carrie Fished has suffered a massive heart attack. She better fucking recover. We've lost enough greats this year.

http://tmz.me/4cEwS7b

Frozen Beach

12-23-2016, 04:05 PM

She stopped breathing for 10 minutes. That's not good. Not good at all.

allegro

12-23-2016, 04:21 PM

She stopped breathing for 10 minutes. That's not good. Not good at all.

Nooooooooo, not good, not good as in brain dead not good.

ziltoid

12-23-2016, 04:50 PM

Even though she was not breathing, as long as she was getting chest compression, she should be fine. (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101018074028.htm)
That is to say, whatever gave her a heart attack is taken care of and isn't too complicated.
Even in a situation as dire as hers she can fully recover.
Just gotta stay positive.

october_midnight

12-23-2016, 05:58 PM

Her brother has said she's now in stable condition.

Conan The Barbarian

12-23-2016, 07:08 PM

Don't do it 2016. Do not fucking take this one away.

marodi

12-23-2016, 09:51 PM

Her brother has said she's now in stable condition.

He clarified to say that she's receiving excellent care and that she's in the ICU.

http://deadline.com/2016/12/carrie-fisher-heart-attack-hospitalized-star-wars-1201875492/

Jinsai

12-23-2016, 10:06 PM

He clarified to say that she's receiving excellent care and that she's in the ICU.

http://deadline.com/2016/12/carrie-fisher-heart-attack-hospitalized-star-wars-1201875492/

She'll be under the most extreme care now too. She'll be fine. Nice try, 2016

thevoid99

12-26-2016, 06:21 PM

In a year that's been very bad, here is something good that someone did. Eddie Vedder became Santa Claus for a day and helped someone: http://www.avclub.com/article/eddie-vedder-performs-christmas-miracle-maryland-f-247755

ziltoid

12-27-2016, 12:05 PM

It's with a sad heart that I came here to say that Carrie Fisher has passed away today at 8:55 from the heart attack.
Goddamn this year has been relentless with the deaths of so many people but this one and Gene Wilder hits so fucking hard; to see the people I grew up with and making fond memories pass away sucks so bad.
I think I speak for everyone when I say fuck this year.
May they live on in their work that has brought joy to so many people.
R.I.P.
http://people.com/movies/carrie-fisher-dies/?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag

october_midnight

12-27-2016, 12:09 PM

Son of a bitch. :(

marodi

12-28-2016, 05:05 PM

And now TMZ is reporting that Debbie Reynolds was rushed to the hospital for what appears to be a stroke.

What in the actual fuck?

allegro

12-28-2016, 05:09 PM

And now TMZ is reporting that Debbie Reynolds was rushed to the hospital for what appears to be a stroke.

What in the actual fuck?

OMG, poor Debbie (http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/debbie-reynolds-hospitalized-stroke/). :(

Deepvoid

12-28-2016, 07:43 PM

OMG, poor Debbie (http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/debbie-reynolds-hospitalized-stroke/). :(

Sadly she passed away.

Frozen Beach

12-28-2016, 07:45 PM

This year is like a slasher villain

thevoid99

12-28-2016, 08:12 PM

Fuck this fucking fucked-up year. I feel sorry for Billie Lourd to lose her mother and now her grandmother in the span of a few days.

marodi

01-03-2017, 07:43 PM

Charles Manson is seriously ill and has been hospitalized (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-charles-manson-hospitalized-20170103-story.html)

No one is allowed to die in 2017. Except bad people.

thevoid99

01-03-2017, 09:12 PM

If he dies, then good. He was a sick motherfucker.

Sutekh

02-20-2017, 06:57 PM

Milogate... I'm dying laughing

thevoid99

02-20-2017, 09:15 PM

David Cassidy is suffering from dementia: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-39035720

Holy shit, this isn't good. I like that guy.

allegro

02-22-2017, 10:45 AM

David Cassidy is suffering from dementia: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-39035720

Holy shit, this isn't good. I like that guy.

He's had some big difficulties over the recent years. But, yeah, the news made me sad. Back in the day, us girls LOVED David Cassidy, he was a huge crush (when the Partridge Family was on Prime Time). Boys got haircuts like him.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/53/8c/5c/538c5c97c648fa4b626ec8b8f38f58a1.jpg

thelastdisciple

02-25-2017, 12:30 AM

http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/24/forbidden-myspace-christine-dolce-dead/

Christine Dolce -- better known as ForBiddeN on MySpace during its super early days, who amassed over 2.1 million friends -- died from liver failure ... TMZ has learned.

Frozen Beach

03-14-2017, 12:44 AM

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/spongebob-squarepants-creator-stephen-hillenburg-reveals-als-diagnosis-1202007865/ (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/spongebob-squarepants-creator-stephen-hillenburg-reveals-als-diagnosis-1202007865/)

allegro

03-14-2017, 01:43 PM

Haysey_Draws

06-01-2017, 02:34 AM

So James Woods has started tweeting that CNN is ISIS...no REALLY :eek:

Jinsai

06-01-2017, 05:26 AM

So James Woods has started tweeting that CNN is ISIS...no REALLY :eek:

It's about time for everyone to realize what an asshole he is, and for all us Videodrome fans to sit quietly in mourning.

thevoid99

06-01-2017, 02:20 PM

It's about time for everyone to realize what an asshole he is, and for all us Videodrome fans to sit quietly in mourning.

I agree. The man lost his fucking mind.

Dra508

06-05-2017, 03:09 PM

I agree. The man lost his fucking mind.Him and Chuck Woolery. Holy crap. Speaking of Twitter. I've been under a rock, or not in this echo chamber since I just figured out what #MAGA means.

october_midnight

06-17-2017, 09:25 AM

According to Jake Tapper of CNN, the judge in the trial of Bill Cosby just declared a mistrial. The jurors (5 women and 7 men) were unable to come to a unanimous decision after more than 53 hours of deliberation over 6 days.

thevoid99

06-17-2017, 05:08 PM

This is fucking bullshit. Bill Cosby gets to walk away a free man while there's so many women who have been harmed by him. What a fucking phony.

Swykk

06-17-2017, 05:34 PM

I figured as much. You probably won't find anyone who hasn't heard of Bill Cosby plus the amount of time that has passed and the overall attitude toward abused/raped women who come forward all adds up to Cosby getting away with it.

allegro

06-17-2017, 09:24 PM

Another Cosby discussion:

http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/255-Random-General-Headlines?p=356714#post356714

Bachy

06-21-2017, 02:32 PM

Daniel Day-Lewis has retired. Good for him. He was a great one.

elevenism

06-21-2017, 06:03 PM

Daniel Day-Lewis has retired. Good for him. He was a great one.yeah he is fucking insane. Supposedly, while working on Gangs of New York, he refused to get warmed up between takes. Then he got pneumonia and wouldn't accept treatment that wasn't available in the 19th century. And craziest of all, he roamed around New York in character as Bob the Butcher and actually picked fistfight with random people. He said that he actually lost his mind.

Also, I Drink YOUR MILKSHAKE!!!!

thevoid99

06-21-2017, 09:25 PM

I do like Daniel Day-Lewis but I find the whole method acting thing to be too much. It's just become this vain idea of wanting to take yourself way too seriously. Looking at you Jared Leto.

Jinsai

06-22-2017, 02:27 AM

yeah he is fucking insane. Supposedly, while working on Gangs of New York, he refused to get warmed up between takes. Then he got pneumonia and wouldn't accept treatment that wasn't available in the 19th century. And craziest of all, he roamed around New York in character as Bob the Butcher and actually picked fistfight with random people. He said that he actually lost his mind.

Also, I Drink YOUR MILKSHAKE!!!!

That sounds like he's pulling the interviewer's leg. If it's true, that "refusing treatment" bit is completely, literally insane. I mean, it's not like his character in the movie is supposed to have pneumonia.

elevenism

06-22-2017, 07:37 AM

That sounds like he's pulling the interviewer's leg. If it's true, that "refusing treatment" bit is completely, literally insane. I mean, it's not like his character in the movie is supposed to have pneumonia.
I think it's legit, man. When filming My Left Foot, he refused to break character and made people put him on the toilet and such. He lives off the land for six months for Last of the Mohicans. He lived in a jail cell and ate only jail food for In The Name of the Father. He BUILT the fucking house that his character lived in for The Crucible, using only 17th century tools, and then lived in it with no electricity or running water.
And he's done crazy shit like this for pretty much ALL his roles.
He IS a goddamn lunatic, and a treasure
Look at this @Jinsai (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=272) http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/how-daniel-day-lewis-notoriously-rigorous-role-preparation-has-yielded-another-oscar-contender-776563.html
Furthermore, I. Drink. Your. MILKSHAKE!!!

onthewall2983

07-02-2017, 09:02 PM

Donal Logue's daughter has been kidnapped (https://twitter.com/donallogue/status/881550678166056961)

Boots

07-03-2017, 05:40 PM

Venus Williams was declared to be at fault for a car crash in Palm Beach Gardens on June 9 that injured a 78-year-old man who died two weeks later.

Deepvoid

07-10-2017, 04:01 PM

The Rock for President?

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/341269-campaign-committee-for-dwayne-the-rock-johnson-filed-with-fec

allegro

07-10-2017, 04:17 PM

Venus Williams was declared to be at fault for a car crash in Palm Beach Gardens on June 9 that injured a 78-year-old man who died two weeks later.

Police reviewed new video evidence, now Venus Williams is not at fault: http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/07/us/venus-williams-fatal-accident/index.html

(Well, technically, the investigation is still underway but ... Venus was still in the intersection during a red light because somebody suddenly turned left in front of her while she had the green and she had to stop to not collide with THAT vehicle, meanwhile the old lady driving from the other direction apparently only looked at the green light and not the car IN THE INTERSECTION and t-boned Venus Williams' car.)

Per the Florida Statutes (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.075.html):

(a) Green indication.—
1. Vehicular traffic facing a circular green signal may proceed cautiously straight through or turn right or left unless a sign at such place prohibits either such turn. But vehicular traffic, including vehicles turning right or left, shall yield the right-of-way to other vehicles and to pedestrians lawfully within the intersection or an adjacent crosswalk at the time such signal is exhibited.
2. Vehicular traffic facing a green arrow signal, shown alone or in combination with another indication, as directed by the manual, may cautiously enter the intersection only to make the movement indicated by such arrow, or such other movement as is permitted by other indications shown at the same time, except the driver of any vehicle may U-turn, so as to proceed in the opposite direction unless such movement is prohibited by posted traffic control signs. Such vehicular traffic shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk and to other traffic lawfully using the intersection.
3. Unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian control signal as provided in s. 316.0755, pedestrians facing any green signal, except when the sole green signal is a turn arrow, may proceed across the roadway within any marked or unmarked crosswalk.

onthewall2983

08-12-2017, 12:09 PM

A Georgia Official Is Calling For A Criminal Investigation Into R. Kelly (https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/a-georgia-official-is-calling-for-a-criminal-investigation?utm_term=.ndBPYJJ4K#.pePgnrr2e)

It doesn't make it right but maybe he'll wind up taking the brunt of what Bill Cosby got away with. I will never advocate death or violence against anyone, but in cases like this I get a bit close.

Bachy

08-14-2017, 03:08 PM

Ric Flair is not doing well. If we lose the Nature Boy, I don't know what I'll do.

thevoid99

08-14-2017, 03:35 PM

I don't think I can handle the idea of Ric Flair being gone. It's bad enough that Bowie's not around anymore.

Piko

08-14-2017, 04:03 PM

Yeah,.it's not looking good. If there were a mount Rushmore for wrestling, he'd be on it. It's crazy. He was just saying in an interview how great he felt.

allegate

08-14-2017, 04:26 PM

Donal Logue's daughter has been kidnapped (https://twitter.com/donallogue/status/881550678166056961)
With as much crazy shit that's been going on I totally forgot about this.

Donal Logue’s Missing Daughter Has Been Found Safe and Sound (http://variety.com/2017/scene/news/donal-logue-daughter-missing-found-jade-transgender-1202490464/)

Dryalex12

09-10-2017, 04:06 PM

Can somebody please punch Andrew Tate in the face....please?

I don't think ive ever been this pissed off at someone before

(moved from general to here)

onthewall2983

09-13-2017, 08:00 AM

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2017/09/12/08/gettyimages-845834690.jpg

Christian Bale has been gaining weight in order to play Dick Cheney for an upcoming role. Am I crazy or does he look a little like Trent here?

Conan The Barbarian

09-13-2017, 08:57 AM

I just want to know where his eyebrows went.

bobbie solo

09-13-2017, 11:40 AM

Christian Bale has been gaining weight in order to play Dick Cheney for an upcoming role. Am I crazy or does he look a little like Trent here?

There's a clever joke to be made in response to this involving THIS movie...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/The_Machinist_poster.JPG

and the fact that Bale LOST a ton of weight to play a character named Trevor Reznik, but my brain isn't working & can't connect the dots to make the actual humorous joke.

marodi

09-13-2017, 12:24 PM

Haysey_Draws

09-14-2017, 02:40 AM

"Martin Shkreli has bail revoked"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/13/martin-shkreli-jail-securities-fraud-hillary-clinton

What a tit!

october_midnight

10-02-2017, 02:11 PM

Fuckssakes, just saw him a few weeks ago and his show was fantastic.

Tom Petty found in full cardiac arrest, rushed to hospital. (http://www.tmz.com/2017/10/02/tom-petty-found-unconscious-full-cardiac-arrest/)

FUCK ME FOREVER he's apparently on life support, with sources saying death is imminent.

bobbie solo

10-02-2017, 09:49 PM

pretty sure hes gone

allegro

10-02-2017, 10:27 PM

pretty sure hes gone
No, still alive.

TMZ jumped the gun, creating an Abe Vigoda too-soon chain reaction.

Petty is "clinging to life" but he's not dead. Yet. Still, 66 is too young for this shit.

thevoid99

10-02-2017, 10:28 PM

Man, fuck TMZ.

tony.parente

10-07-2017, 06:22 PM

Apparently Nelly was arrested and charged with second degree rape this morning. That sucks, I don’t want that to be true.

Dryalex12

10-07-2017, 08:33 PM

Apparently Nelly was arrested and charged with second degree rape this morning. That sucks, I don’t want that to be true.

From what i read, he was released iirc.

thevoid99

10-10-2017, 12:48 AM

Well, since there's been a lot of news about what a scumbag (though I'm not surprised as I never liked the piece of shit) Harvey Weinstein is as it relates to all of those sexual harassment reports. Donna Karan is defending him claiming those women who are accusing were asking for it: http://ew.com/news/2017/10/09/donna-karan-defends-harvey-weinstein-women-asking-for-it/

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/2f/2fcd799322bdb7d373a559f40a155b9bf83d4ccdbdcdf4ceca e0d8006139cc1c.jpg

thevoid99

10-21-2017, 05:33 PM

And I'm out..... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5002938/Artist-claims-Roman-Polanski-molested-age-10.html

Boots

10-26-2017, 11:30 PM

ton

10-27-2017, 12:35 AM

bobbie solo

10-27-2017, 12:38 PM

Here's another reason why I have never liked Ellen Degeneres. She is a pig and a hypocrite.
If this tweet had come from a man, then people like Ellen would be screaming bloody murder:
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/ellen-degeneres-blasted-for-sharing-unacceptable-katy-perry-photo/

I think the false outrage on this one is a bit much. This isn't something to plant your flag on. Going overboard with the PC-ness there.

Also, Katy Perry is SO hot. Goddamn.

allegate

10-27-2017, 12:44 PM

thevoid99

10-27-2017, 04:47 PM

OK, so it's not OK for a dude to stare at a woman's cleavage but OK for a woman to do that to another woman? I don't get it.

Frozen Beach

10-27-2017, 05:00 PM

OK, so it's not OK for a dude to stare at a woman's cleavage but OK for a woman to do that to another woman? I don't get it.
I don't really care about this shit, but it's a photo, which means this could easily have been been setup/planned between them. If the person who is having their cleavage stared at gave permission to the starer, who cares about it at that point? The only argument then would really be that it's in poor taste & at a bad time (considering the Harvey Weinstein shit).

I only really post about this because my sister's friends are like this where they'd do stupid pictures together, jokingly ogling each other. Sometimes I'd have to take the photos because my sister didn't feel like it.

allegro

10-27-2017, 05:29 PM

I don't really care about this shit, but it's a photo, which means this could easily have been been setup/planned between them. If the person who is having their cleavage stared at gave permission to the starer, who cares about it at that point? The only argument then would really be that it's in poor taste & at a bad time (considering the Harvey Weinstein shit).

I only really post about this because my sister's friends are like this where they'd do stupid pictures together, jokingly ogling each other. Sometimes I'd have to take the photos because my sister didn't feel like it.

Well, exactly, it’s not about the photo, it’s about CONTEXT. A female with zero “power” over other women in her industry is joking about her friend’s boobage. So is Katy Perry, who’s seen this photo before and thinks it’s hilarious. Saying “ah so it’s okay for a WOMAN to do that and not a GUY?” is just a lame attempt at changing the narrative and being deliberately obtuse.

And I think there may also be some lesbian-blaming with this shit, too. I think the photo is hilarious. So does Ellen’s wife, who is laughing in the photo. Oh, but Ellen is a LESBIAN so she’s a GUY?

Um ... NO.

My girlfriends and I have grabbed each other’s boobs and joked, and we ogle, and we do other crazy shit with each other. Which does NOT GIVE HARVEY WEINSTEIN PERMISSION TO DO IT. Because HW is a controlling pig who ruins your career if you don’t give him a naked massage.

I would totally ogle Katy Perry’s boobs, and I’m a girl with less power in the patriarchy (she has way more power than me OR Ellen) so YES THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. It’s NOT a double standard, it’s a bullshit way of looking for ways to blame females for MEN shit. Timing? It’s Katy Perry’s birthday.

This all makes me sad. We will never make progress. We are doomed.

theimage13

10-27-2017, 08:09 PM

OK, so it's not OK for a dude to stare at a woman's cleavage but OK for a woman to do that to another woman? I don't get it.

You must be reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal confused when it comes to black people using the "n word" in their music then.

thevoid99

10-27-2017, 10:45 PM

You must be reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal confused when it comes to black people using the "n word" in their music then.

No. I can understand why white people can't say it but black people can but still. It causes a lot of issues about what we can say and what we can't say. It's this political correctness bullshit that's ruined everything. Man, fuck these SJWs.

OK, so if I can stare at some woman's cleavage and then get caught. Would a sincere apology be enough? Or is it not good enough because you want to make a man feel like total shit?

marodi

10-28-2017, 12:59 PM

Well, exactly, it’s not about the photo, it’s about CONTEXT. A female with zero “power” over other women in her industry is joking about her friend’s boobage. So is Katy Perry, who’s seen this photo before and thinks it’s hilarious. Saying “ah so it’s okay for a WOMAN to do that and not a GUY?” is just a lame attempt at changing the narrative and being deliberately obtuse.

And I think there may also be some lesbian-blaming with this shit, too. I think the photo is hilarious. So does Ellen’s wife, who is laughing in the photo. Oh, but Ellen is a LESBIAN so she’s a GUY?

Um ... NO.

My girlfriends and I have grabbed each other’s boobs and joked, and we ogle, and we do other crazy shit with each other. Which does NOT GIVE HARVEY WEINSTEIN PERMISSION TO DO IT. Because HW is a controlling pig who ruins your career if you don’t give him a naked massage.

I would totally ogle Katy Perry’s boobs, and I’m a girl with less power in the patriarchy (she has way more power than me OR Ellen) so YES THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. It’s NOT a double standard, it’s a bullshit way of looking for ways to blame females for MEN shit. Timing? It’s Katy Perry’s birthday.

This all makes me sad. We will never make progress. We are doomed.

https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/loren-mansfield2.jpg?w=680&h=600&crop=1&quality=90&strip=all

Mariska has her mother's eyes, by the way.

Louie_Cypher

10-28-2017, 04:19 PM

https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/loren-mansfield2.jpg?w=680&h=600&crop=1&quality=90&strip=all

Mariska has her mother's eyes, by the way.i guess given context was it concentrically/ did you take offense? on any given. you can watch guys. look on pat their teammates on the ass. if that was a female gymnast , would we have issue? sexual constructs
suck
-louie

marodi

10-28-2017, 06:59 PM

i guess given context was it concentrically/ did you take offense? on any given. you can watch guys. look on pat their teammates on the ass. if that was a female gymnast , would we have issue? sexual constructs
suck
-louie

Oh I've always found this picture to be absolutely hilarious. Sophia Loren is thinking "they are going to fall out; there's no way they are staying put!" And that's something that I've thought often as a woman watching other women with a deep cleavage "how is she getting them to behave?".

I agree with allegro on this. It's all about context. Unless they are a female sexual predator, a lot of us women will oogle each other out not out of any sexual thing but because we think "dang; that's one hell of a bra she wearing, I want one just like that!"

And of course, for those who did not know: Mariska Hargitay (Olivia Benson in Law & Order SVU) is Jayne Mansfield's daughter.

allegro

10-28-2017, 09:46 PM

Oh I've always found this picture to be absolutely hilarious. Sophia Loren is thinking "they are going to fall out; there's no way they are staying put!" And that's something that I've thought often as a woman watching other women with a deep cleavage "how is she getting them to behave?".

I’ve always thought that Jayne Mansfield’s right nipple is popping out in that above pic LOL.

Also, in the Ellen and Katy pic, Ellen is obviously being funny. She’s not “ogling” in a gross way. When you put your boobage out there in a deliberate way, they’re bound to get the attention you desire. Ellen is going “HOLY SHIT GIRL YOUR GIANT BOOBS ARE STICKING OUT!!” Lol lol

Edit: OH BUT WAIT THIS!!! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/susan-sarandons-cleavage-at-sag-awards-2016-captivates-the-internet-w163059/

Also, if Ellen’s head was swapped out for Lucille Ball’s or Carol Burnett’s in that Katy photo, nobody would be talking about it. Because they’re allowed to do slapstick and Ellen isn’t, evidently.

allegro

10-29-2017, 12:20 AM

Now some happier news:

Heidi Montag gave birth to a potato with a head:

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/heidi-montag-spencer-pratt-show-off-baby-gunner-in-new-photos/

thevoid99

10-29-2017, 12:33 AM

Now some happier news:

Heidi Montag gave birth to a potato with a head:

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/heidi-montag-spencer-pratt-show-off-baby-gunner-in-new-photos/

Oh great. Just what we need. More stupid children.

allegro

10-29-2017, 03:49 PM

Oh great. Just what we need. More stupid children.
Was the baby born with NO LEGS? Where are the baby’s legs? If he does have legs, why did these two idiots do a photo shoot that makes it look like their baby was captured by a giant spider and wrapped up in a web cocoon to be eaten later?

WAIT ... MAYBE THE IDIOT PARENTS ARE REALLY SPIDERS AND THAT IS NOT THEIR BABY!!!!

theimage13

10-29-2017, 03:53 PM

I'll forgive the baby for being too stupid to know this, but turbans go ON TOP of your head; not up to the bottom of it.

Babies are so dumb. Can't even figure out headware.

thevoid99

10-29-2017, 04:07 PM

I'll forgive the baby for being too stupid to know this, but turbans go ON TOP of your head; not up to the bottom of it.

Babies are so dumb. Can't even figure out headware.

Yeah but the baby is in greater danger given how dumb the parents are and man, that child is FUCKED.

Dryalex12

10-29-2017, 05:52 PM

Im so fucking confused by you guys

allegro

10-29-2017, 06:12 PM

Yeah but the baby is in greater danger given how dumb the parents are and man, that child is FUCKED.

So the baby has no legs and dumb parents. So sad.

Sister Midnight

10-29-2017, 06:17 PM

So the baby has no legs and dumb parents. So sad.

So when it grows up it will get a reality show called "My Parents Are Assholes" produced by the Kardashians and the cycle will continue. I will be dead by then so I don't give fuck.

allegro

10-29-2017, 06:59 PM

So the baby has no legs and dumb parents. So sad.

Oops wait, the baby does have legs (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5009781/Heidi-Montag-Spencer-Pratt-baby-pumpkin-patch.html).

Which reminds me of my favorite euphemism for sex: “Let’s play ‘hide the baby leg’”

Dryalex12

10-29-2017, 07:02 PM

Did i miss something? Care to explain why we hate them?

allegro

10-29-2017, 07:12 PM

Exhibit A: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/spencer-pratt-apologizes-for-comparing-hills-cancellation-to-911-w164868/

They’re like Barbie and Ken. Plastic and empty-headed.

kel

10-29-2017, 07:49 PM

kathy griffin released an insightful video today. she was on the no-fly list for two months because of that silly picture (which she never should have apologized for). also, andy cohen is a coke head.

one thing kathy isn't is a liar.

ton

10-29-2017, 10:17 PM

Kevin Spacey is now facing allegations of sexual misconduct on a male actor.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/star-trek-star-claims-kevin-spacey-made-a-pass-at-him-at-age-14-1052828

october_midnight

10-29-2017, 11:23 PM

His statement saying that he doesn't remember it, that it would've been while he was drunk and over 30 years ago (!) is crazy. Kind of an unfortunate way to come out of the closet, but if it's true...damn.

Nyx

10-30-2017, 04:28 AM

What a shitty way to come out, a really bad move on his part. "I'm sorry I tried to assault a child but hey, I'm gay!" Uh...ok.

Volband

10-30-2017, 06:15 AM

Not only this is an extremely lame attempt to somehow shift the attention, it's also nothing new to begin with. When I was getting into House of Cards years ago, whenever a discussion came up about Spacey, people were talking about him being gay as pretty much a fact, so it's not much of a shock factor.

PR people are failing left and right in the midst of all these sexual assault news popping up.

Disassociative

10-30-2017, 06:23 AM

I don't know about y'all but personally I wouldn't want me coming out as gay been associated with been accused of sexual assault.

allegate

10-30-2017, 10:23 AM

https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/924860447701876736

So true.

marodi

10-30-2017, 01:39 PM

Anyone who's been following the movie industries for as long as I do *knew* that Kevin Spacey and Jodie Foster being gay were Hollywood worst kept "secret". I don't dig into celebrities personal lives and I've been reading about him being gay since he won an Oscar for the Usual Suspects. That he chose to finally acknowledge it while addressing allegations of sexual assault made against him is absolutely disgusting.

If Anthony Rapp seems familiar to you and you're not watching him in Star Trek Discovery (in which he is marvelous, by the way), it may be because you've seen him in Adventures in Babysitting, which has become a nice cult classic since it came out in 1987. I believe him, by the way. He has disclosed this story once before some years ago without naming Spacey.

elevenism

10-30-2017, 06:43 PM

Kevin Spacey is one of my favorite actors of all time. This is really hard to hear.

Sister Midnight

10-30-2017, 06:49 PM

This doesn't excuse his behavior but Spacey is lucky in the fact that Spacey's allegations are getting Farrah Fawcetted right now. What I mean by that is Farrah Fawcett passed away hours before Michael Jackson's death was announced.
The Kevin Spacey story is getting buried by the Mueller investigation and the press isn't paying a lot of attention to it. However I have seen one story that House Of Cards is cancelled based on the allegations. Netflix will release the 6th and final season of House Of Cards in the future.

mfte

10-30-2017, 09:14 PM

I don't know about y'all but personally I wouldn't want me coming out as gay been associated with been accused of sexual assault.

The Jim McGreevey defense.

Conan The Barbarian

10-30-2017, 10:45 PM

Jesus fucking Christ, people in Hollywood are fucked up.

Disassociative

10-31-2017, 01:35 AM

The Jim McGreevey defense.

I mean not only is it just a shitty defense (I MAY HAVE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED A MINOR BUT ITS OK LOL IM GAY) - it’s just so... it feels gross. I mean for starters what is supposed to be a celebratory and liberating thing more often than not he has now used to try and deflect some purely awful allegations. Something tells me the LGBT community isn’t going to welcome him with open arms. It just feels like he’s taken something that’s a big deal for us to try and spin a negative into a positive.

october_midnight

10-31-2017, 09:30 PM

Next up to the guillotine: Jeremy Piven (https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/10/jeremy-piven-accused-of-sexual-misconduct/)

kel

10-31-2017, 10:49 PM

I mean not only is it just a shitty defense (I MAY HAVE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED A MINOR BUT ITS OK LOL IM GAY) - it’s just so... it feels gross. I mean for starters what is supposed to be a celebratory and liberating thing more often than not he has now used to try and deflect some purely awful allegations. Something tells me the LGBT community isn’t going to welcome him with open arms. It just feels like he’s taken something that’s a big deal for us to try and spin a negative into a positive.

no, he's not welcome. his statement/pseudo admission/coming out isn't just gross, it's incredibly irresponsible and honestly dangerous.

thevoid99

11-01-2017, 12:27 AM

Andy Dick just got fired from 2 projects by sexually harassing someone. Seriously, who is stupid enough to hire this has-been?

sick among the pure

11-01-2017, 02:48 AM

Definitely not a "Hollywood" issue. This is a shitfest that is deeply rooted in our entire culture.

Exactly. This is the kind of shit that happens everywhere in this country, all of the time. It's just getting more attention when it's celebrities.

october_midnight

11-01-2017, 09:08 AM

Next up to the guillotine: Jeremy Piven (https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/10/jeremy-piven-accused-of-sexual-misconduct/)

Next up to the guillotine: Brett Ratner. (http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-brett-ratner-allegations-20171101-htmlstory.html)

Swykk

11-01-2017, 09:19 AM

Olivia Munn told that story years ago. Maybe there will finally be consequences now for scummy Ratner?

allegro

11-01-2017, 10:03 AM

Next up to the guillotine: Brett Ratner. (http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-brett-ratner-allegations-20171101-htmlstory.html)

UGH that article is disturbing. What a pig. No, wait, I don’t want to disparage pigs.

And the DENIALS through his attorney are WORSE, ugh.

theimage13

11-01-2017, 10:27 AM

I don't know about y'all but personally I wouldn't want me coming out as gay been associated with been accused of sexual assault.

I was furious when I saw this. Sure enough, I've already seen a bunch of torch wielding "THIS IS WHY YOU GAY ASS LIBTARD FAGS SHOULDN'T BE AROUND CHILDREN" type of comments. The dumbest shit ever. Like, these people are obviously already morons. But this adds fuel to their fire, and sadly, will probably sway some people who were on the fence about maybe finally not being homophobic assholes.

I personally appreciated his initial response - it was honest. I mean, a drug and alcohol fueled party THIRTY YEARS ago...it's not realistic to think "oh yeah, I totally have a super clear recollection of everything I did while high and/or drunk on the night of November 1, 1987". Shit, how many people don't remember what they did last Friday? I don't think he was trying to avoid apologizing or taking blame with that statement - I think he just genuinely doesn't recall that happening. And let me be perfectly clear: I am not stating that being inebriated is an excuse for any kind of behavior. But yes, it can make you genuinely not remember doing something after the fact.

So he admitted to not remembering, and saying that if the allegations were true, he owed a major and sincere apology. I mean, 30 years after the alleged incident, what more can you do? He should have left it at that, and kept anything else that needed to be said between him and his accuser.

october_midnight

11-01-2017, 12:50 PM

Next up to the guillotine: Brett Ratner. (http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-brett-ratner-allegations-20171101-htmlstory.html)

Next up to the guillotine: Dustin Hoffman. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466)

allegro

11-01-2017, 01:29 PM

Next up to the guillotine: Dustin Hoffman. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466)

GAHHHHHH EWWWWWWWWW What the fuck

thevoid99

11-01-2017, 08:12 PM

Brett Ratner was not surprising since he always comes off as a douche.

I think the next person called out on this is Michael Bay.

Conan The Barbarian

11-01-2017, 10:13 PM

If Tom Hanks gets mentioned I’m out

allegate

11-02-2017, 09:38 AM

Brett Ratner was not surprising since he always comes off as a douche.

I think the next person called out on this is Michael Bay.

Maybe I'm misremembering the context, but isn't this why what's-her-face was fired from the third TF movie? *Googles* Oh wait, that was just that she said he was Hitler.

october_midnight

11-02-2017, 12:08 PM

Next up to the guillotine: Dustin Hoffman. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466)

Take a number, fellas! You too, Danny Masterson (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/danny-masterson-rape-accusations_us_59fa8410e4b01b474048242a)

marodi

11-02-2017, 12:54 PM

If Tom Hanks gets mentioned I’m out

And Robert Redford. I've always thought very highly of him.

The one that would devastate me, if he's ever mentioned, is RDJ. Him I would take personally.

onthewall2983

11-02-2017, 05:00 PM

The case against Danny Masterson as a result of accusations of sexual assualt in the early 2000's, has been slow going despite "overwhelming" evidence that points to his guilt. (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/danny-masterson-rape-accusations_us_59fa8410e4b01b474048242a?ncid=inbln kushpmg00000009) I've been wondering if sooner or later Scientology will be the next domino to fall, but if even a D-lister like him can get away with this then there's little hope as far a I can see anyway.

thevoid99

11-02-2017, 05:11 PM

I would love to see Scientology fall and fall hard forcing them to pay all of the money they ripped off from people and see those who profited from this bullshit be DELETED!!!!!!!

https://i.imgur.com/sHhykSc.gif

october_midnight

11-02-2017, 11:09 PM

Kevin Spacey has now officially been accused of sexual harrassment by eight employees of the House of Cards production as well. (https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/eight-house-of-cards-employees-accuse-kevin-spacey-of-sexual-misconduct/)

fml.

thevoid99

11-03-2017, 12:22 AM

Oh Spacey. You stupid motherfucker.

I just read that another victim of Weinstein had come out in Paz de la Huerta whom Weinstein had raped twice in which she became an alcoholic and that was why she got kicked out of Boardwalk Empire.

marodi

11-04-2017, 02:48 PM

Oh Spacey. You stupid motherfucker.

He's been dropped by Netflix, both for House of Cards and for an up coming Gore Vidal biopic and he's been suspended from House of Cards itself.

I've been enjoying this creep's career for over 20 years now and I'm not the only one who did.

We've all been Keyser Söze'd, folks.

october_midnight

11-08-2017, 10:51 AM

Take a number, fellas! You too, Danny Masterson (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/danny-masterson-rape-accusations_us_59fa8410e4b01b474048242a)

Hey, make room for Charlie Sheen. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5062721/Charlie-Sheen-sodomized-Corey-Haim-13-set-Lucas.html)

allegro

11-08-2017, 11:07 AM

Hey, make room for Charlie Sheen. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5062721/Charlie-Sheen-sodomized-Corey-Haim-13-set-Lucas.html)

Now THIS one doesn't surprise me at all, considering his history.

allegate

11-08-2017, 11:20 AM

Hey, make room for Charlie Sheen. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5062721/Charlie-Sheen-sodomized-Corey-Haim-13-set-Lucas.html)Jesus. I didn't even click through - saw the URL that popped up - and it gives me the heebie jeebies. ugh.

Jinsai

11-08-2017, 12:44 PM

I believe it. It's Charlie Sheen. At this point, I believe whatever allegations you can come up with.

With regards to Kevin Spacey... I'm fascinated by Netflix's decision here. They're publicly declaring that his character (which is the lead character in the show) will be "written out" of the final season. What the shit!? They're basically taking their most popular original production and openly destroying it as a "mea culpa" for casting one of the biggest names in Hollywood in the lead role. I don't think anything like that's ever happened before.

Something tells me that the scandal runs way deeper than the public is aware of.

allegate

11-08-2017, 01:07 PM

So....is Donald Trump Nero, but he's tweeting instead?

october_midnight

11-08-2017, 02:43 PM

Hey, make room for Charlie Sheen. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5062721/Charlie-Sheen-sodomized-Corey-Haim-13-set-Lucas.html)

"Yeah? Well you might recognize me from television's "Prison Break", so back up...." - Robert Knepper (https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/prison-break-actor-robert-knepper-accused-of-sexual-assault/)

Deepvoid

11-08-2017, 02:54 PM

Ok the source is not great on this one but Mariah Carey has been accused of sexual harassment by her ex-bodyguard (https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/mariah-carey-accused-of-sexual-harassment/)

Dryalex12

11-08-2017, 04:00 PM

Man, it just has not been a good year for celebs so far, it's almost like 2017 is trying to outdo 2016 on how much of a shitty year it was.

Such a shame to read all of these

thevoid99

11-08-2017, 04:39 PM

I knew Charlie Sheen was a repulsive and sick fuck but this.... I don't think I can ever watch Lucas ever again as I'm just even sadder about what happened to Corey Haim. I hope Sheen is banned from not just the industry for life but also be sent to prison.

october_midnight

11-08-2017, 07:03 PM

"Yeah? Well you might recognize me from television's "Prison Break", so back up...." - Robert Knepper (https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/prison-break-actor-robert-knepper-accused-of-sexual-assault/)

"Get in line, pal!" - Jeffrey Tambor (https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/transparent-actor-jeffrey-tambor-accused-of-sexual-misconduct/)

elevenism

11-08-2017, 07:33 PM

Goddamnit y'all.
Remember when Feldman first made the pedophilia claims? I was SERIOUSLY hoping he was just out of his mind, or at very least, exaggerating.
Then Elijah Wood said something and i got a whole hell of a lot more nervous.
And now, the shit is really hitting the fan and i think this really actually might be something that happens constantly.

october_midnight

11-08-2017, 07:51 PM

Oh Spacey. You stupid motherfucker.

It's biting him in the ass again. SONY just announced that they're cutting him out of his December movie 'All The Money in The World' completely...and reshooting the scenes with Christopher Plummer as J. Paul Getty.

theruiner

11-08-2017, 08:57 PM

"Get in line, pal!" - Jeffrey Tambor (https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/transparent-actor-jeffrey-tambor-accused-of-sexual-misconduct/)
That one genuinely breaks my heart.

thelastdisciple

11-09-2017, 06:36 AM

Volband

11-09-2017, 08:52 AM

Here's his response.

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Finally, someone straight out saying no. Every "well, I can't quite remember, I'm not sure if it all went down exactly as I am accused, but sorry if I was a mischief" reeks from G U I L T Y. I have no idea if Knepper is indeed innocent or not, but this at least gives me some hope that he might be.

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 12:03 PM

Wow, the premiere of Louis CK's movie has been cancelled due to 'an upcoming story from the New York Times'....fuck my life.

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 12:09 PM

Oh, and Steven Seagal (https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/portia-de-rossi-julianna-margulies-also-accuse-steven-seagal-of-sexual-harassment/)

Maximilian

11-09-2017, 12:18 PM

Wow, the premiere of Louis CK's movie has been cancelled due to 'an upcoming story from the New York Times'....fuck my life.

Noooooooooooo, not Louis!

theruiner

11-09-2017, 12:23 PM

Noooooooooooo, not Louis!
Yeah, it's been an open secret for awhile. I'm honestly really glad if it finally comes to light. He deserves to reap the consequences of what he's done if it's true. And as a fan, I'm kind of uncomfortable with completely disavowing him over rumors and hearsay, I'm kind of in limbo with him. If this comes out "officially," through a legit news source, then I'm out. And that hurts to say. Louis is my favorite comedian, he's one of the two people that made me want to get into comedy, and I think he's absolutely brilliant. But if the rumors are true, if he is a sexual predator, then I will forget he ever existed.

allegate

11-09-2017, 12:26 PM

Wow, the premiere of Louis CK's movie has been cancelled due to 'an upcoming story from the New York Times'....fuck my life.
https://twitter.com/Erik_Hayden/status/928679923031556097
https://twitter.com/THR/status/928684388837220352

Oh man. Jokes about child rape? Not a good look Louis.

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 12:27 PM

Apparently it includes him exposing himself to other female comics as well, at least that's what I've read...

theruiner

11-09-2017, 12:34 PM

Yup, that's it. That's been the open secret the last few years in the comedy community. Heads up: about to describe sexual assault here.

He gets female comedians alone in a room, blocks the door and makes them watch while he masturbates. Apparently women comedians warn each other not to be alone with him.

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 12:40 PM

God damn....

allegate

11-09-2017, 12:42 PM

https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/928684145957412865

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 01:09 PM

https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/928684145957412865

Ugh...this is all heartbreaking. Fuckssakes.

botley

11-09-2017, 01:14 PM

A few things:

1 - Is what you described actually assault if he didn't make any physical contact?
Yes, it is.

2 - Why is every accusation pertaining to anything sexually being treated with equal career-ending punishment? Is it fair to the guy who jerked off in a room to be treated the same as the guy who raped multiple people? Is it fair to the victims of the guy who raped multiple people that their attacker's punishment only matches what a masturbator gets?
It's not; yes it is; no it's not.

3 - Further questioning about the puritanical responses of late. The vast majority of good art comes from very flawed and damaged individuals. Are we really going to ditch the art of every person found to to do anything sexually unacceptable? Would we prefer an artless world for one where we can pretend the famous people are pure?
No but I'd prefer artists stop sexually assaulting people and face just reckoning for it, anyway hope that helps.

onthewall2983

11-09-2017, 01:15 PM

Oh, and Steven Seagal (https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/portia-de-rossi-julianna-margulies-also-accuse-steven-seagal-of-sexual-harassment/)

Not exactly new news he's a scumbag.

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 01:25 PM

Just had to come in to this thread and start dropping turds around here too, huh? smh

botley

11-09-2017, 01:27 PM

There is a pretty obvious inconsistency in your view here. It demonstrates you don't care about actual justice, or you haven't taken the time to think about it. Not quite the depth I was hoping for, but whatever.
Are you going to stop consuming the art from every artist who is accused of sexual assault anytime within their past? Or do you have some line you draw in which some situations are allowable enough for you to keep watch/listening/etc.?
I have thought about this a great deal, actually. I'm not throwing away and ceasing to consume art any more than I'm going to stop living in the country that perpetrated cultural genocide against Indigenous people by force of law. Justice should be meted to protect the fabric of a just society rather than punish in some arbitrary proportion according to a scale of offense. The legal system doesn't do this often enough.

Volband

11-09-2017, 01:35 PM

A few things:

1 - Is what you described actually assault if he didn't make any physical contact?

2 - Why is every accusation pertaining to anything sexually being treated with equal career-ending punishment? Is it fair to the guy who jerked off in a room to be treated the same as the guy who raped multiple people? Is it fair to the victims of the guy who raped multiple people that their attacker's punishment only matches what a masturbator gets?

3 - Further questioning about the puritanical responses of late. The vast majority of good art comes from very flawed and damaged individuals. Are we really going to ditch the art of every person found to to do anything sexually unacceptable? Would we prefer an artless world for one where we can pretend the famous people are pure? It's not like you are going to eradicate this shit from humanity in any way. Humans are shit. (http://abcnews.go.com/US/serial-masturbators-cook-county-custody-rewarded-pizza-30/story?id=51024509)

I agree that, if there are legit victims, then the perpetrator should receive whatever consequences anyone, of any class, would receive for the same crime. But we should at least address the uncomfortable topics above, especially when all this is playing out in the court of public opinion.
Wait. When it's about beloved Louie, we should suddenly take a step back?

By all means, video yourself while asking these questions to the "not-victims". "So when he locked the door and started masturbating in front of you, was it that bad? I mean, he didn't touch you, so technically..."

Yes, they deserve to be eradicated from the scene.

botley

11-09-2017, 01:48 PM

^ IDGAF about Louis CK. I specifically chose him for a reason though, and it's that others do care. They are much more likely to take a step back and think about something instead of acting emotionally.
I think he's particularly relevant because this movie he's made is basically about sexual assault. Also, he funded it with money directly from people who supported his last project and sent us all an e-mail gloating about it (the movie, that is, and funding it — not gloating about being accused of anything, obviously).

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 01:57 PM

Is it a weird feeling though? This self-aggrandizing need to just start internet arguments? Seems weird to me.

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 02:03 PM

The Louis CK NYT story. (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html)

allegro

11-09-2017, 02:08 PM

Is what you described actually assault if he didn't make any physical contact? Is it fair to the guy who jerked off in a room to be treated the same as the guy who raped multiple people? k

I think, legally, the above is sexual harassment if it doesn't involve a minor, although each state's laws are different regarding sexual assault, there is no national law. But, YES, sexual harassment is still pretty fucked up.

Can you imagine if your wife went to work and her boss cornered her in a room and jacked off in front of her, even if it wasn't ON her it's just fucked up and wrong and unacceptable and possibly illegal depending on the state's laws re indecent exposure even if the victim isn't a minor, and certainly grounds for being fired, sued, maligned, etc.

But my goal was to hit a soft spot and see how much people are willing to discuss the long term impacts, or if acting short term is the primary instinct.
Do you realize that this stuff has actually HAPPENED TO many of us? And this soft spot is also known as a "trigger?" So, really, what you are doing re this subject could actually cause people emotional harm by making this seem like, hey, dude, wtf, who cares?

Volband

11-09-2017, 02:13 PM

Dude wtf? Well, I won't deny that there is some serious poetry in the timing here.

But my goal was to hit a soft spot and see how much people are willing to discuss the long term impacts, or if acting short term is the primary instinct.
I think there is a very clear line that separates what goes and what doesn't. Ie. I don't care if a celebrity is the worst husband and father on Earth, because legally and even humanly speaking, you can do that. People will cheat one another and parents will abandon their children; it's sad, but it happens. Same thing with stuff like scientology. I think Tom Cruise is a nutjob, but I'm not religious to begin with, so I couldn't care less. Yes, they kidnap some people, while the bishops sexually assault children. Potato, potato; as long as someone is not directly involved in this just spreading the message of some greater good, then I say whatever.

But repeated sexual offenders are on some other, animalistic level. I don't want to distinct between someone who is "just" an offender and did not assault anyone, and I don't want to live in a world where there is a difference, except legally speaking. Also, I'd rather someone touch my crotch against my will than lock me up and force me to do his/her thing. Get these assholes out, even if it's a hypocrite move, because there are plenty others who are guilty just as much, we just don't know it (yet), but that is no excuse for those who are already caught redhanded.

I think the bar is already pretty damn low, so if you can't even live your life without being a disgusting piece of shit, then I feel no remorse if your career and life is ruined as fast as a heartbeat.

One grey area is domestic violence. We could talk about it, but hitting your spouse is nowhere near the level of sexually forcing yourself onto someone else.

botley

11-09-2017, 02:31 PM

I think, legally, the above is sexual harassment if it doesn't involve a minor, although each state's laws are different regarding sexual assault, there is no national law. But, YES, sexual harassment is still pretty fucked up.
And Louis is a powerful rich man with access to people who can easily defend him against legal action. There's not going to be ANY criminal proceeding, likely no civil suit either, even though this was workplace-related misconduct. All we have is public shaming.

Volband

11-09-2017, 02:37 PM

The Louis CK NYT story. (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html)
What a class guy! He even asked the women if it was okay. Sure, he didn't care about the yes or no, but still.

Does this guy want to be caught btw? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but in hindsight, it's like he wishes someone would bash his head into a wall and tell him what a sick jerk he is. Either way, I hope no one will ride the "oh, poor guy has issues!!" train. There is professional help and there are a bunch of other, quasi normal way to live down your fetishes, especially if you are rich as hell.

theruiner

11-09-2017, 02:40 PM

Yup. Fuck him. He's a sexual predator. Shame away. I hope his career is destroyed.

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 02:43 PM

Agreed. What a bummer.

ltrandazzo

11-09-2017, 02:46 PM

A few things:

1 - Is what you described actually assault if he didn't make any physical contact?

2 - Why is every accusation pertaining to anything sexually being treated with equal career-ending punishment? Is it fair to the guy who jerked off in a room to be treated the same as the guy who raped multiple people? Is it fair to the victims of the guy who raped multiple people that their attacker's punishment only matches what a masturbator gets?

3 - Further questioning about the puritanical responses of late. The vast majority of good art comes from very flawed and damaged individuals. Are we really going to ditch the art of every person found to to do anything sexually unacceptable? Would we prefer an artless world for one where we can pretend the famous people are pure? It's not like you are going to eradicate this shit from humanity in any way. Humans are shit. (http://abcnews.go.com/US/serial-masturbators-cook-county-custody-rewarded-pizza-30/story?id=51024509)

I agree that, if there are legit victims, then the perpetrator should receive whatever consequences anyone, of any class, would receive for the same crime. But we should at least address the uncomfortable topics above, especially when all this is playing out in the court of public opinion.

Cornering two women in a room, taking out your penis, and then masturbating in front of them without letting them leave is SEXUAL. ASSAULT.

I liked Louis C.K.

Fuck Louis C.K.

Maximilian

11-09-2017, 02:57 PM

It just seems that he's some masturbation fetish weirdo and they were free to leave the moment he dropped his pants, without any repercussions.

I'm not defending him, he's definitely a shit-bag, but this is nowhere near Harvey/Spacey level misconduct.

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 02:58 PM

It just seems that he's some masturbation fetish weirdo and they were free to leave the moment he dropped his pants, without any repercussions.

Other than the multiple times the article mentioned him physically blocking the exit so no one could leave...yes, that's correct?

theruiner

11-09-2017, 02:59 PM

Even if he DIDN'T, you don't do something sexual to or in front of another person if they don't consent. Period. PERIOD.

Maximilian

11-09-2017, 03:02 PM

Other than the multiple times the article mentioned him physically blocking the exit so no one could leave...yes, that's correct?

Missed that, thanks.

october_midnight

11-09-2017, 03:04 PM

Wasn't trying to be an ass, sorry if it sounded snarky, but theruiner is right...like I said in another thread...2017 seems like whomever did whatever, they know that this day and age we no longer have the ability to say 'fuck _______ i'm done being a fan' without hearing 'well actually...' (again, not implying you).

I don't care if it was his personal assistant or the pizza delivery guy. Fuck Louis CK lol.

Volband

11-09-2017, 03:10 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfkG_0hyIoc
Holy shit, couldn't watch it through the end. This must've given him some extreme high, because even my hands were sweating just by imagining myself in his place.

Conan The Barbarian

11-09-2017, 03:25 PM

I am really shocked about Sheen and Haim.

allegro

11-09-2017, 04:03 PM

and no, im not the type who needs to have a wife/daughter/etc to understand what is or isn't wrong in context to women, so the imagining doesn't change anything for me. =
that's a really good point.

Re sexual assault vs sexual harassment, the below is from FindLaw (again, each state defines these things completely different, each state has a entire LIBRARY full of its own criminal laws):

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/indecent-exposure.html

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/sexual-assault-overview.html

Here are the actual laws here in Illinois: http://ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=072000050HArt%2E+11+Subdiv%2E+25&ActID=1876&ChapterID=53&SeqStart=20300000&SeqEnd=21000000

(720 ILCS 5/11-30) (was 720 ILCS 5/11-9)
Sec. 11-30. Public indecency.
(a) Any person of the age of 17 years and upwards who performs any of the following acts in a public place commits a public indecency:
(1) An act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct; or
(2) A lewd exposure of the body done with intent to arouse or to satisfy the sexual desire of the person.
Breast-feeding of infants is not an act of public indecency.
(b) "Public place" for purposes of this Section means any place where the conduct may reasonably be expected to be viewed by others.
(c) Sentence.
Public indecency is a Class A misdemeanor. A person convicted of a third or subsequent violation for public indecency is guilty of a Class 4 felony. Public indecency is a Class 4 felony if committed by a person 18 years of age or older who is on or within 500 feet of elementary or secondary school grounds when children are present on the grounds.
(Source: P.A. 96-1098, eff. 1-1-11; 96-1551, eff. 7-1-11.)

If this all is going to lead to some people being falsely accused, then it's reached some weird level of "wow, this sure gets us a lot of publicity" levels, which is just sad. We're doomed.

But, this is all shaking out to be in two categories: (a) Harassing assholes and (b) criminal assaulters and predators

allegate

11-09-2017, 04:08 PM

Man this sucks if it starts in on the fake accusers.
that's a really good point.

Re sexual assault vs sexual harassment, the below is from FindLaw (again, each state defines these things completely different, each state has a entire LIBRARY full of its own criminal laws):

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/indecent-exposure.html

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/sexual-assault-overview.html

Here are the actual laws here in Illinois: http://ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=072000050HArt%2E+11+Subdiv%2E+25&ActID=1876&ChapterID=53&SeqStart=20300000&SeqEnd=21000000

If this all is going to lead to some people being falsely accused, then it's reached some weird level of "wow, this sure gets us a lot of publicity" levels, which is just sad. We're doomed.

But, this is all shaking out to be in two categories (even the ILLINOIS CONGRESS is requiring legislators to take the Sexual Harassment course): (a) Harassing assholes and (b) criminal assaulters and predators

allegro

11-09-2017, 04:18 PM

Man this sucks if it starts in on the fake accusers.

I think there may be some "fake accusers" who will only care about capitalizing on something, because that's our greedy hollywood culture. But, overall, this is all really positive because of the positive changes that are being made.

Re sexual harassment, anyway. We've been fighting that battle for, like, CENTURIES in the work place and in the armed forces, so if some training comes out of this, it's all a step in the right direction.

Joy Behar on the View says that the comedy business has been filled with sexual harassment for many many years, still happens today. She told stories about having been sexually harassed by a supervisor when she was a GRADE SCHOOL TEACHER.

allegate

11-09-2017, 04:18 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/1zTCTF9o9ffgc/giphy-downsized-large.gif (https://media.giphy.com/media/1zTCTF9o9ffgc/giphy-downsized-large.gif)

allegro

11-09-2017, 04:21 PM

Anyway, allegro, my comment about understanding a women's perspective wasn't meant to come off aggressively. I just wanted to say that the wife/daughter appeal wasn't needed. In fact, I've always found it a fucked up appeal that tons of men are prone to making with other men. I can't imagine how shitty it must be to be a wife hearing your husband say "ever since I had a daughter... something something respecting women" .... with the clear implication being that your husband had little respect for you as a woman before that. Fucking... people are shit.
No no, I totally agree with you, you make a good point; us females (many of us, anyway) tend to try to use the Pathos argument (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_persuasion) about these things because otherwise nobody seems to give a shit because it's not gonna happen to THEM, so Pathos is "okay, then what if it was your SISTER?" because we can't seem to get them to grok the argument from the Logos or Ethos standpoint.

But, you're right, LOGOS and ETHOS should be sufficient, without the need for Pathos.

thevoid99

11-09-2017, 04:38 PM

I'm not surprised by Steven Seagal since he is a scumbag. After all, he beat up Kelly LeBrock during their marriage and I'm not surprised by those auditions. There's also.... ugh.... this....

http://fightstate1.devise.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/steven-seagal-gropes-katherine-heigl.jpg

allegate

11-09-2017, 04:39 PM

https://twitter.com/politicalmiller/status/928709276616536064

allegate

11-09-2017, 05:05 PM

allegro

11-09-2017, 05:09 PM

I remember having to read Paradise Lost my first year in college. I didn't have the best instructor so I had no idea what we were trying to do with it.

Loved reading that bit about it. Even if it's not there anymore. ;)

Sorry, I edited it out because I thought it might be drift and too into the weeds ...

Maybe we can start a Paradise Lost thread in the Literature forum. My Capstone project made me pretty obsessed with Paradise Lost, after having buried myself in SEVERAL FEET of academic research for an entire semester (AND I got to see Stanley Fish do a lecture at the University of Illinois at Chicago for a "Milton Fest" which was so fucking awesome) :D (Here are some useful Cliffs Notes, though (https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/p/paradise-lost/character-analysis/satan).)

Volband

11-09-2017, 05:13 PM

https://twitter.com/politicalmiller/status/928709276616536064
Thanks for reminding me that we also suffer from these obnoxious white-knights. "Trust women" ??? What the hell does that even mean, why would you write such a dumb sentence down.

Man, if I look one way, people sexually harass others "cuz they can" for decades, but if I look the other way, I see drooling idiots like this guy. Does "trust women" get you pussy, so you can force them to watch you masturbate to finish the circle or what?

allegro

11-09-2017, 05:19 PM

Does "trust women" get you pussy, so you can force them to watch you masturbate to finish the circle or what?
I am a woman, and a feminist, but I often wonder about the motivations of this kind of stuff these days, too, from guys online. This social media stuff, so much of it is shit, I do myself wonder if some of these guys are just trying to cash in on some "metoo" thing so they can get more hits or look really cool so they can get laid.

Ugh, it's all just ... ugh

Mantra

11-09-2017, 06:11 PM

Are we really going to ditch the art of every person found to to do anything sexually unacceptable?The problem is that talented artists have always been granted de facto immunity for all their transgressions. They can hurt people, treat them like shit, and still rest assured that their career and their legacy will remain completely untarnished. All because they're "talented." They wrote some good songs, made some cool movies, whatever, so now they can do whatever the fuck they want and face no consequences, legal or otherwise. It's the ultimate immunity deal. If enough people cherish your work, you've essentially unlocked godmode and have been granted a license to rape and harass at will.

That's why it's so important to see that these people lose everything.

allegro

11-09-2017, 07:43 PM

Agree! It's just good to see everyone's thinking here, especially where any limitations may reside in that thinking. Like I mentioned earlier, it's confusing why people didn't act when the Louis CK story came out in 2012 or 2015. I'm concerned the punishment aspect is fashionable or something.

I think maybe people didn’t want it to be true.

Kinda like Woody Allen.

The case against him re Dylan was over 20 years ago and was highly publicized.

Even Ronan had problems “challenging” Woody over it:

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/11/06/ronan-farrow-admits-regrets-over-not-challenging-woody-allen-sooner-over-molestation-allegations/

More stories re creepy asshole Seagal (because there’s safety in numbers):

http://deadline.com/2017/11/jenny-mccarthy-alleges-steven-seagal-sex-harassment-threat-1202205465/

”So I stand across from (Seagal) and he plops onto a sofa that’s near a fireplace,” she said. “And he points at the sofa cushion next to him, saying to me, ‘Take a seat. Relax.’ I said, ‘No, thank you! I’m just really excited to read for this part. And I have so much energy I need to stand.’”

Seagal began to recount his experiences on combat missions before telling McCarthy, ‘’‘You know, this part has nudity in it. And I can’t really tell what your body looks like in that dress that you’re wearing.’ ”

McCarthy admitted to being alarmed by the obvious ploy. “In my head, I’m like, ‘Okay here we go. Sound the alarms, this is not a test, this is the real thing, activate all defense systems,’” McCarthy said. “But I so wanted to legitimately read for this part that I wasn’t gonna give up yet. So I told him, ‘Listen. My agent says there’s no nudity. I specifically asked her and she said no.’

McCarthy claims Seagal said, “There is off-camera nudity,” and asked her to lower her dress. A distressed McCarthy said she asked, ‘Could we please read the scene,’ ” but Seagal again made his request “so I can see your breasts.”

At that point, McCarthy started crying and claimed she yelled, “Go buy my Playboy video — it’s on sale for $19.99,” before departing.

The ordeal wasn’t over, though. As she reached her car, Seagal had followed her, and allegedly warned her not to tell anyone of their encounter “or else.”

“It was so disheartening,” she said. “And I thought about like, ‘I was the last girl that day. How many girls had to take off their clothes? How many girls had to do more?’ It just so grossed me out.”