Twenty-Thirteen Tension Tour Tug Thread - SETLIST SPOILERS!

[Ripe(withdecay)]

He sounds very great on "The Big Come Down", like he sounds perfect!

[Papagolash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VknpA52wLhQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QAoki-Uf0s
"Back to the Bottom!"

Fucking A that sounds great and Trent sounds fucking amazing!

[icecream]

There's only two Fragile songs not currently being played that I'd have over TBCD. I'm looking forward to joining you finally, or The Mark Has Been Made. Never gonna happen though unfortunately!
It's tough. I love TBCD too and it looks/sounds amazing from those videos posted.

[martin_b]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VknpA52wLhQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QAoki-Uf0s
"Back to the Bottom!"

Thanks for sharing this.

I wonder if TR has changed his haircut. Because it seems quite different than comparing to his haircut during the Festivals 2013 Tour:

http://s17.postimg.org/kru9pbgcb/trent.jpg

[Ryan]

Cut it shorter?

[simonn]

Shaved at the sides as per one video I saw recently.

[martin_b]

simonn, Ryan thanks. I just wanted to confirm that this is what I have noticed. :-)

[simonn]

martin_b When I replied, I hadn't seen the pic below the vid of Trent with a clearly shaven head, crappy work pc! Wasn't trying to be an arse!

[Iran_Ed]

Just passed Rob outside the venue.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QAoki-Uf0s
"Back to the Bottom!"
Ooo, nice.

I was thinking that TBCD and All Time Low would sound too much alike together in the same set, but no worries there. I do wish he would play around like that with HLAH and THTF — would make hearing them every damn tour so much easier to take.

Edit: damn, quoted the wrong video. That's what happens when you keep Flash turned off all the time.

[r_k_f]

As much as I love Robin, he needs to one up Aaron's solo on TBCD... Aaron still owns it.

[chadbrochill17]

I can't believe Robin didn't use the Parker for TBCD...

[binaryhermit]

According to setlist.fm

Copy of A
1,000,000
Terrible Lie
March of the Pigs
Piggy
All Time Low
Disappointed
Came Back Haunted
Find My Way
Various Methods of Escape
Satellite
The Big Come Down
Survivalism
Running
A Warm Place
Somewhat Damaged
Wish
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole
Encore:
The Day the World Went Away
Even Deeper
While I'm Still Here
Black Noise
Hurt

[ninjaw]

I absolutly love Various Methods of Escape, did it sound right ? it looks like it wasn't on first dates. O btw i'm on my way to fly across ocean for the second time this year, and no, i'm not rich.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

I absolutly love Various Methods of Escape, did it sound right ? it looks like it wasn't on first dates. O btw i'm on my way to fly across ocean for the second time this year, and no, i'm not rich.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvlTaw3ecFQ

[ninjaw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvlTaw3ecFQ

Excellent :) quite odd he never sing high, but hey, it's trent. Hope he'll do it again.

[binaryhermit]

According to RITCNIN they played Reptile. More updates to come?

(and no, I'm not trawling the bottom of the #nin barrel tonight)

[binaryhermit]

Also, according to RITCNIN , they played Sanctified

[Wish9]

I absolutly love Various Methods of Escape, did it sound right ? it looks like it wasn't on first dates. O btw i'm on my way to fly across ocean for the second time this year, and no, i'm not rich.

It has been played 3 times (I think). It sounded really good in Toronto.

[binaryhermit]

Oh, and RITCNIN's other setlist spoiler was that they played Hurt

[Ash512]

Apparently The Big Come Down was also played : http://twitter.com/nineinchnails/status/391775537481261056/photo/1

[NINfan04]

I was there. They did in fact play Reptile, Big Come Down, Somewhat Damaged, Various Methods of Escape, In Two, A Warm Place, and Sanctified!! I have Reptile, Warm Place, Big Come Down, and 95% of Sanctified on video too!! =) AWESOME show but a little weak of a crowd imo. The guys yelling during the quiet parts of Hurt was really disrespectful. Trent seemed to spit as soon as Hurt finished as if he was mad but I don't know for sure. Great show, everyone was on point, visuals were stunning, TR sounded great. I enjoyed myself even with the no alcohol policy. =P

[Corona Radiata]

Sanctified video immediately please.

[ericy210]

I was here too. I'd love to see the vids, great show. For what it's worth, I didn't see Trent spit, i saw him finish with class. Interesting being at a"dry" show, I think it's a first for me. I wonder if that's why the crowd was more tame. I'm not from the area. Who was there? It seemed like Penn State students and people coming in from Pittsburgh.

[utterben]

As much as I love Robin, he needs to one up Aaron's solo on TBCD... Aaron still owns it.

He absolutely does. He nailed it like no other. He got fucking lucky on the Beside You In Time DVD recording too – he managed to smash his guitar into his amp and create this pretty awesome sound which I can only compare to massive electricity pylons being twanged.

(Sorry, off-topic.)

[ninjaw]

He absolutely does. He nailed it like no other. He got fucking lucky on the Beside You In Time DVD recording too – he managed to smash his guitar into his amp and create this pretty awesome sound which I can only compare to massive electricity pylons being twanged.
(Sorry, off-topic.)

Now I need to watch that again...
edit : yeah it rocks ! btw i was also amazed by what he did on Ruiner 2007

[thefragile_jake]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvlTaw3ecFQ

Gah! This sounds incredible live. More and more footage I see of Hesitation Marks songs live makes me wish I had another chance to see them this year. :(

[NINfan04]

I was here too. I'd love to see the vids, great show. For what it's worth, I didn't see Trent spit, i saw him finish with class. Interesting being at a"dry" show, I think it's a first for me. I wonder if that's why the crowd was more tame. I'm not from the area. Who was there? It seemed like Penn State students and people coming in from Pittsburgh.

Uploading "Sanctified" as I type this!

He seemed to spit shortly after Hurt was over as he walked behind the keyboards to walk off stage. Hopefully someone has a complete video of Hurt to confirm this.

I wonder why they didn't do a Pittsburgh and Philadelphia show instead of Pittsburgh, DC, NJ, and State College. Philadelphia shows always draw great crowds for NIN. State College is the same distance for me as the DC and NJ shows so either way I was going to drive 30-45 minutes more than I normally do for Philly shows. It was definitely worth the trip and I know RITC has the whole show captured so I'm a happy camper!

[RJK]

I wonder why they didn't do a Pittsburgh and Philadelphia show instead of Pittsburgh, DC, NJ, and State College. Philadelphia shows always draw great crowds for NIN. State College is the same distance for me as the DC and NJ shows so either way I was going to drive 30-45 minutes more than I normally do for Philly shows. It was definitely worth the trip and I know RITC has the whole show captured so I'm a happy camper!

They played Made in America in Philly. Festivals have things in the contracts that say you can't play a show there for a certain amount of time. That's why Philly was skipped on this tour.

[icecream]

Ecstatic that Sanctified is back in the set!

[NINfan04]

They played Made in America in Philly. Festivals have things in the contracts that say you can't play a show there for a certain amount of time. That's why Philly was skipped on this tour.

Ahhh that explains it, thank you! I didn't attend Made in America because I just prefer 100% fan crowds instead of mixed bags. I rather be at a concert with 100% ETS fans because we're the true NIN fan base imo. =P Fingers crossed for next time.

[Corona Radiata]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5FUFU2_8-g

[brokenfragility]

For those who have been to shows, how loud do they play? I thought LITS was a little on the quiet side and I'm hoping Tension is a little more loud. The best show I went to was on the 2005 club tour where it had an extremely loud and powerful sound. I want that experience again someday.

*edit my seats are kinda far away too (I couldn't afford expensive tickets right now) which is why I'm a little worried about volume, its of course much louder when you are closer up.

[Wish9]

For those who have been to shows, how loud do they play? I thought LITS was a little on the quiet side and I'm hoping Tension is a little more loud. The best show I went to was on the 2005 club tour where it had an extremely loud and powerful sound. I want that experience again someday.

*edit my seats are kinda far away too (I couldn't afford expensive tickets right now) which is why I'm a little worried about volume, its of course much louder when you are closer up.

It isn't loud. I don't know how else to explain the volume other than to say that you are able to hear yourself sing, even during the heavier songs.

[brokenfragility]

It isn't loud. I don't know how else to explain the volume other than to say that you are able to hear yourself sing, even during the heavier songs.

Aw. Disappointing. Turn it up a bit Trent, hot damn!

[ericy210]

Volume was good. Best way to say us it rocks hard but my ears don't ring the next day.

[sick among the pure]

It really depends on where you are. When I was on the floor, at the rail, it was loud enough that unless someone was yelling directly into my ear to talk to me, I couldn't really hear them. When I was at a seat, I could hear the conversation of the row of people in front of me.

[wight rabbit]

I'll take quieter and clearer over loud and distorting.

[Kyle]

I'll take quieter and clearer over loud and distorting.

But if it's louder than you can still hear the concert for the next few days. It's a free bonus.

</sarcasm>

[captainbeyond]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5FUFU2_8-g

nice fretless bass!

[sick among the pure]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5FUFU2_8-g


http://oi41.tinypic.com/168ivm1.jpg

[Kyle]

At the 2:20 mark the way robin is moving it looks like he has to pee. I expect Trent to turn around and say "why didn't you go during the encore break?" "But I didn't have to go then."

ok I think it's time for me to go to sleep.

[nooneimportant]

http://oi41.tinypic.com/168ivm1.jpg

Robin Finck, Master and Lord of The Synth.

[Ryan]

http://oi41.tinypic.com/168ivm1.jpg

Reminds me of what Flake does in Rammstein.

[Amaro]

For those who have been to shows, how loud do they play? I thought LITS was a little on the quiet side and I'm hoping Tension is a little more loud. The best show I went to was on the 2005 club tour where it had an extremely loud and powerful sound. I want that experience again someday.

*edit my seats are kinda far away too (I couldn't afford expensive tickets right now) which is why I'm a little worried about volume, its of course much louder when you are closer up.

It varies.

In my experience/opinion Cleveland, OH was borderline excruciatingly loud and crystal clear (adding to any pain factor, with no earplugs), and University Park, PA was just barely loud enough. I'd rather it be loud and clear as it were in Cleveland, OH. You should always bring earplugs, just in case, especially if you're gonna be closer to the stage, be it in seats or on the floor.

[brokenfragility]

About clarity vs loudness thing, I as well REALLY HATE IT when bands push their PA's too far (happens all the time at this venue The Bottletree in my town, sometimes they push it so much even clean guitars sound like they're going through distortion petals) but I've never known any NIN show I've gone too to push the PA too hard. Even the extremely loud club shows were still clear, I'm pretty sure Trent brings top of the line PA's, and I'm pretty sure he could push them a little more than he does without distortion.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

About clarity vs loudness thing, I as well REALLY HATE IT when bands push their PA's too far (happens all the time at this venue The Bottletree in my town, sometimes they push it so much even clean guitars sound like they're going through distortion petals) but I've never known any NIN show I've gone too to push the PA too hard. Even the extremely loud club shows were still clear, I'm pretty sure Trent brings top of the line PA's, and I'm pretty sure he could push them a little more than he does without distortion.
I suspect with modern equipment it's more a problem of pushing the venue acoustics too hard. I'd love to see NIN in a really good theater someday so I can hear everything (though I'd also be happy just to have a DVD of this tour).

[WorzelG]

I just read rumours that the Rolling Stones may be touring again next year - I hope they don't poach Lisa Fischer, I'm really excited to see the singers with the band in April

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

I just read rumours that the Rolling Stones may be touring again next year - I hope they don't poach Lisa Fischer, I'm really excited to see the singers with the band in April
Ha! I'm sure that Trent & Co. would win that fight. Just tip over Jagger's walker. :p

[jessamineny]

I just read rumours that the Rolling Stones may be touring again next year - I hope they don't poach Lisa Fischer, I'm really excited to see the singers with the band in April

She has toured with them since 1989. I think TR got lucky because of her downtime.

[Kyle]

Ha! I'm sure that Trent & Co. would win that fight. Just tip over Jagger's walker. :p
Who would then proceed to buy and sell Trent several times over....

[WorzelG]

She has toured with them since 1989. I think TR got lucky because of her downtime.

This would be so disappointing, however it's only a rumour

[Deepvoid]

University Park got the best setlist of the tour so far... by a mile.

[ericy210]

Hey, if it's one of you posting some of the best quality crowd video I've ever seen on youtube, thanks. Awesome to relive the show

[Ryan]

Copy of A (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Copy+of+A)


1,000,000 (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=1,000,000)


Terrible Lie (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Terrible+Lie)


March of the Pigs (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=March+of+the+Pigs)


Piggy (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Piggy)


All Time Low (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=All+Time+Low)


Disappointed (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Disappointed)


Came Back Haunted (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Came+Back+Haunted)


Find My Way (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Find+My+Way)


Sanctified (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Sanctified)


The Frail (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Frail)


The Wretched (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Wretched)


The Big Come Down (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Big+Come+Down)


Survivalism (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Survivalism)


Running (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Running)


A Warm Place (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=A+Warm+Place)


Somewhat Damaged (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Somewhat+Damaged)


Wish (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Wish)


The Hand That Feeds (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Hand+That+Feeds)


Head Like a Hole (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Head+Like+a+Hole)


Encore:
Even Deeper (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Even+Deeper)


In This Twilight (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=In+This+Twilight)


While I'm Still Here (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=While+I%27m+Still+Here)


Black Noise (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Black+Noise)


Hurt (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Hurt)

[Corona Radiata]

Have they stopped playing Only?

[TheyCallMeDrug]

ugh, my life was so much better when i had 3 NIN shows on the calendar to look forward to :(

only has been dead since the summer tour.

[Ryan]

Have they stopped playing Only?

I sure hope so.

[Krazy]

'Only' was a great live song IMHO when TR and Aaron played guitars on it in previous tours. Always had the coolest visuals too.

Now not so much now (Robin can't play it for shit- lets not even get into that generic intro solo during LITS). The crowd can still get into the song so doesn't bother me too much when it's played.

[icecream]

I didn't understand Trent's raging hard on for Only. How could he leave a song like Right where it Belongs or off a setlist but have Only played almost every night is beyond me.

[Corona Radiata]

ugh, my life was so much better when i had 3 NIN shows on the calendar to look forward to :(

only has been dead since the summer tour.No it hasn't.

[Ryan]

I didn't understand Trent's raging hard on for Only. How could he leave a song like Right where it Belongs or off a setlist but have Only played almost every night is beyond me.

Agreed 3,000%.

[captainbeyond]

I would trade "Only" for "Sanctified" at any show if that were the case. I would hope those two can be considered "similar."

But yeah..."Burn" instead of "Only" duhh

[Horican]

I didn't understand Trent's raging hard on for Only. How could he leave a song like Right where it Belongs or off a setlist but have Only played almost every night is beyond me.
Only was a big hit single and one of the most well known NIN songs, and RWIB is a quiet ballad that only fans know about. Casual fans who come to shows want to hear Closer, only, HLAH... They don't care about RWIB. They care about the songs they know.

[icecream]

Only was a big hit single and one of the most well known NIN songs, and RWIB is a quiet ballad that only fans know about. Casual fans who come to shows want to hear Closer, only, HLAH... They don't care about RWIB. They care about the songs they know.
Was Only that big of a hit? I don't follow that stuff too closely. I remember Hand that Feeds being huge when WT came out but that was a while ago.

[slave2thewage]

Does Sanctified have visuals at all? It just looked like lights from the video I saw. There could be a few interesting visuals for that track.

[frothy_ham]

I don't understand so many fan's raging Anti-Hard On for Only. I've always thought it was a great song...though I don't understand most of the things that so many ETS'er HATE SO MUCH WITH PASSION!!! but whatevs.

[Kyle]

I don't understand so many fan's raging Anti-Hard On for Only. I've always thought it was a great song...though I don't understand most of the things that so many ETS'er HATE SO MUCH WITH PASSION!!! but whatevs.

This

although I will say that Only is probably the only (ummmm no pun intended) NIN song I like better in the studio than live, whether it's Aaron or Robin. I still like it though.

[sick among the pure]

The people saying they'd rather see it replaced are probably people who have been to enough shows since WT tour to have seen it nearly every single show. It's been heavy in rotation. I'd assume that's the #1 reason they're saying "trade it for another song from WT". Not because they hate it.
I like the idea of having just one "this song WILL play" staple per album, and having the others rotate in and out. We have 2 for PHM: HLAH and Terrible Lie, 1 for Broken: Wish, 2 for TDS: MOTP and Hurt, 1 for TF: Somewhat Damaged, 1 for WT: THTF, 1 for YZ: Survivalism, 1 for The Slip: 1,000,000. These are the "casual fan knows these songs" songs (no song on The Fragile is really casual fan other than Starfuckers, which seems to have been retired at this point, so ok yeah Somewhat Damaged that works).

[frankie teardrop]

as far as radio and casual fan recognition goes, 'only' was even more of a hit than 'the hand that feeds' was... i never listen to the radio, but i've caught it several times while in cabs/hotel alarms, etc. i've seen it done at bar karaoke, etc.

i'm sure it's been discussed ad nauseum, but arena shows (and festivals) by design, tend to appeal more to the casual fan. sure, there are plenty of deep cuts rotated in and out to make us happy, moreso than festivals when they have to WIN new fans by playing all the hits, but when it comes to selling thousands of tickets, you have to please everyone. sure, you can chuck in a few really deep/underrated cuts in there alongside the new material, but you have to make plenty of room for the hits if you want to keep the numbers high.

they already took 'closer' and live favorite 'gave up' out of the set for this tour, so they generally have to make up for it with march/hurt/hand/head/survivalism and occasionally only...

[m15a]

sorry if this has been talked about in the thread already, but has anyone been keeping track of the best quality concert videos on youtube? maybe a playlist or a user that had some particularly good videos. more interested in the visuals than the sound in this case. i wanna show my gf, who wasn't able to go to the concerts. (she's a more casual fan, so she won't be too jealous, although this would have been the great tour for her to see.) thanks!

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

as far as radio and casual fan recognition goes, 'only' was even more of a hit than 'the hand that feeds' was...
I'd take Only over THTF. But then, I'd take almost anything over THTF.

Unless he livens it up with a rant about the government or something.

[icecream]

I don't understand so many fan's raging Anti-Hard On for Only. I've always thought it was a great song...though I don't understand most of the things that so many ETS'er HATE SO MUCH WITH PASSION!!! but whatevs.
I don't hate it. Its just that there are waaaaay better songs on WT than Only. Only is just an OK song. Not one that should be played EVERY show IMO. I mean, once the setlist got to Only, you could tell, THTF then HLAH then encore.

[sick among the pure]

I'd take Only over THTF. But then, I'd take almost anything over THTF.

Unless he livens it up with a rant about the government or something.

But the clapping. It's like we're one with Trent. ;)

[TheyCallMeDrug]

No it hasn't.

i stand corrected

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

But the clapping. It's like we're one with Trent. ;)
At least he doesn't stand there and say "Sing it!" That's when I'd throw my water bottle at him.

Listening to the Through the Never soundtrack made me glad I was never an obsessive Metallica fan. I'd have to stab myself everytime Hetfield says that.

[botley]

Was Only that big of a hit? I don't follow that stuff too closely. I remember Hand that Feeds being huge when WT came out but that was a while ago.
Almost everyone seems to know (and sing along with) the chorus each time I've seen them play it.

[ninsp]

Only is pretty much every casual NIN fan I know's favorite song.

[Kyle]

Only is pretty much every casual NIN fan I know's favorite song.
It's replaced Closer? I must be getting old.

[ninsp]

Everyone loves that chorus. So angsty. It's prototypical NIN. Drum, bass, synth, distorted guitar, profanity...I find it ridiculous that y'all bitch about it, Hurt, Head Like a Hole, THTF, etc when Gave Up and Closer were already taken out of the rotation. Casual fans. People are complaining already about too much HM songs...

[Kyle]

Don't misunderstand my post. I wasn't complaining about the song at all. I wonder if it's an age thing? I'm in my thirties and people I talk to still think if NIN as the band with the fuck you like an animal song.

[m15a]

Don't misunderstand my post. I wasn't complaining about the song at all. I wonder if it's an age thing? I'm in my thirties and people I talk to still think if NIN as the band with the fuck you like an animal song.

are you being literal? do people actually still say "the fuck you like an animal song" (non-ironically)? not disbelieving you - i was actually wondering about that the other day. i thought maybe it was a caricature or archaic.

as for "only", i heard a group of people that were disappointed that they didn't play it after one show this tour. (they seemed happy with the show, but were like, "why didn't they play 'only'?") oddly, my gf HATES "only". it's the sole track she complains about when i listen to NIN.

[Kyle]

Depends on how casual they are, but yes I've heard that. Usually not from someone who owns an album or two and is going to a show. But the people who know them mostly from the radio.

[Emil Dorbell]

But the people who know them mostly from the radio.

I get jealous of american radio, commercial-ridden as it its. I don't think NIN has ever been played on swedish radio.

[icecream]

I guess casual fans love it. At the end of the day, it's about how many tickets are sold. If the set list was a hardcore fan's dream set, they would be playing theaters. I'll just have to catch more shows so I can hear a wide variety of NIN live.

[ninsp]

I'm not a "casual fan." Unfortunately, I've only had the financial opportunity to see NIN once before, so I'd like to hear Hurt, HLAH and all the rest. There are a good deal of people like me who live and breathe NIN but haven't gone to a dozen shows.

[fillow]

Spreadsheet updated up to Nashville
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apv136EBfUp0dFpxTXpMZVhHTnNKZnNjSUVPNW1DT FE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

[icklekitty]

Almost everyone seems to know (and sing along with) the chorus each time I've seen them play it.

It does have a pretty easy chorus though. Even halfway through the first round you know all the words even if it's the first time you've ever heard the song. I can imagine the guy who's been dragged along/doesn't know much about the band but wants in on the group singing vibe will like it for that reason.

[brokenfragility]

So I was at the Nashville show last night, and anyone who doesn't like the backup singers can go die in a fucking fire. They are so fucking amazing. What I was most impressed with was how "into it" they were, at times they rocked out harder than any other member of the band. I'm pretty sure Lisa was headbanging hard as hell during Survivalism. All the complaints had to be from either metal kids or racists. I'm more inclined to rag on TR's performance last night than theirs. They owned that shit.

[Kiki2u]

So I was at the Nashville show last night, and anyone who doesn't like the backup singers can go die in a fucking fire. They are so fucking amazing.

LOL...agree. I was so intrigued to see how they would be utilized for the older material. Their primal screaming during The Wretched...Genius..really made an impact.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

To add to this general "they will or won't plays certain songs", I think a lot of it has to do with what's already been done and been officially / or professionally unofficially released. Songs like RWIB and other tracks from WT, YZ, The Fragile, and so on have been performed and in most cases a great visual record exists. If they are planning on an official video release for this tour (hopefully shot in Vegas over two nights when I'm there) I'm sure he wants it to be as different as possible. That said, I'm on the WITT and Perfect Drug bandwagon 1,000,000%.

Regardless, are there any plans to put together a fan release such as was done with LITS and Wave Goodbye? Anyone heard anything?

[BRoswell]

Regardless, are there any plans to put together a fan release such as was done with LITS and Wave Goodbye? Anyone heard anything?

That's probably going to be difficult due to the fact that there isn't an open taping policy this time around. There's been some good audio and video captured on this tour, but I have a feeling there may not be ENOUGH material for a grand release like the last two tours.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

That's probably going to be difficult due to the fact that there isn't an open taping policy this time around. There's been some good audio and video captured on this tour, but I have a feeling there may not be ENOUGH material for a grand release like the last two tours.
Don't forget that LITS didn't have a taping policy either.


So I was at the Nashville show last night, and anyone who doesn't like the backup singers can go die in a fucking fire. They are so fucking amazing. What I was most impressed with was how "into it" they were, at times they rocked out harder than any other member of the band.
It reminds me a lot of the backing vocals on Dark Side of the Moon, which was an equally weird idea at the time. Wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly what TR had in mind.

[BRoswell]

Don't forget that LITS didn't have a taping policy either.

They did for the last show of the tour.

[Kyle]

Exactly. They were planning on a release hence the no taping policy. That fell through so they allowed it on the last few shows.

At least if I'm remembering things correctly.

[Kyle]

I'm not a "casual fan." Unfortunately, I've only had the financial opportunity to see NIN once before, so I'd like to hear Hurt, HLAH and all the rest. There are a good deal of people like me who live and breathe NIN but haven't gone to a dozen shows.

I work with someone who is a big NIN fan who when she was younger wasn't allowed to go to concerts and when she was older was too broke to go so has never seen them live.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

They did for the last show of the tour.
Did they? I thought Vegas was still something of a guerilla job, whereas the official unofficial :) solution was NIN "quietly" releasing the Gift footage on the net.

[BRoswell]

Did they? I thought Vegas was still something of a guerilla job, whereas the official unofficial :) solution was NIN "quietly" releasing the Gift footage on the net.

The Vegas show had a relaxed camera policy. You could record whatever you wanted provided the cameras were small and handheld. I seem to recall Trent posting a blog saying "Don't bring a whole television studio with you."

[captainbeyond]

if I could only dream. this would be my REALISTIC fantasy setlist:




"Copy Of A"
"1,000,000"
"Terrible Lie"
"March Of The Pigs"
"Something I Can Never Have"
"All Time Low"
"Disappointed"
"Came Back Haunted"
"Find My Way"
"The Frail"
"The Wretched"
"Me, I'm Not"
"Sanctified"
"Burn"
"The Line Begins to Blur"
"Reptile"
"In Two"
"A Warm Place"
"Somewhat Damaged"
"Wish"
"The Hand That Feeds"
"Head Like A Hole"
"The Day The World Went Away"
"La Mer"
"Into the Void"
"While I'm Still Here"
"Black Noise"
"Hurt"

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

if I could only dream. this would be my REALISTIC fantasy setlist:




"Copy Of A"
"1,000,000"
"Terrible Lie"
"March Of The Pigs"
"Something I Can Never Have"
"All Time Low"
"Disappointed"
"Came Back Haunted"
"Find My Way"
"The Frail"
"The Wretched"
"Me, I'm Not"
"Sanctified"
"Burn"
"The Line Begins to Blur"
"Reptile"
"In Two"
"A Warm Place"
"Somewhat Damaged"
"Wish"
"The Hand That Feeds"
"Head Like A Hole"
"The Day The World Went Away"
"La Mer"
"Into the Void"
"While I'm Still Here"
"Black Noise"
"Hurt"

This set is pretty much what they've played this tour.

[captainbeyond]

This set is pretty much what they've played this tour.

Not that combination.

[SarahConnor]

This

although I will say that Only is probably the only (ummmm no pun intended) NIN song I like better in the studio than live, whether it's Aaron or Robin. I still like it though.

I really dislike 'Only.' The 'enunciation pattern' (it isn't much of a melody) is cool. Its a cool chorus. The words and style are mookish. Just stupid sounding.

[Ryan]

I'm Afraid Of Americans played after Even Deeper in Atlanta tonight.

[Ryan]

Copy of A (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Copy+of+A)


1,000,000 (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=1,000,000)


Terrible Lie (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Terrible+Lie)


March of the Pigs (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=March+of+the+Pigs)


Piggy (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Piggy)


All Time Low (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=All+Time+Low)


Disappointed (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Disappointed)


Came Back Haunted (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Came+Back+Haunted)


Sanctified (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Sanctified)


The Frail (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Frail)


The Wretched (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Wretched)


Various Methods of Escape (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Various+Methods+of+Escape)


The Big Come Down (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Big+Come+Down)


Survivalism (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Survivalism)


Running (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Running)


A Warm Place (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=A+Warm+Place)


Somewhat Damaged (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Somewhat+Damaged)


Wish (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Wish)


The Hand That Feeds (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Hand+That+Feeds)


Head Like a Hole (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Head+Like+a+Hole)


Encore:
Even Deeper (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Even+Deeper)


I'm Afraid of Americans (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/david-bowie-6bd6ee66.html?song=I%27m+Afraid+of+Americans)
(David Bowie (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/david-bowie-6bd6ee66.html) cover)

While I'm Still Here (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=While+I%27m+Still+Here)


Black Noise (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Black+Noise)


Hurt (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Hurt)

[frothy_ham]

I really dislike 'Only.' The 'enunciation pattern' (it isn't much of a melody) is cool. Its a cool chorus. The words and style are mookish. Just stupid sounding.

See, I just don't get that, I am utterly unable to relate.

It's really one of my favorites (especially off of With_Teeth). I also REALLY dig Discipline though... and both of these can possibly be explained by the fact that I am a HUGE LCD Soundsystem fan as well who doesn't shy away from corniness. To each there own.

[Deepvoid]

Is anyone keeping track of songs that have seen their visuals upgraded the tour progresses?

Just saw a clip of Survivalism from Oct. 18 and visual are clearly different than the Montreal show. Screens weren't used in Montreal for that song.

[Corona Radiata]

Do we have confirmation that Voodoo is streaming this year? I can't find anything and the show is a week from tomorrow.

[TheBang]

Do we have confirmation that Voodoo is streaming this year? I can't find anything and the show is a week from tomorrow.
I looked yesterday and couldn't find anything.

[captainbeyond]

Do we have confirmation that Voodoo is streaming this year?

No, but I will be streaming at Voodoo (in my pants).




(sorry couldn't resist)

[captainbeyond]

nothing great, but here's the only song I filmed at the show earlier this week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoTNxrPor-o

[Corona Radiata]

"Unique" show tonight according to Rob, since they can't bring the Tension production to the show (will be the same for Voodoo Fest and the Vegas shows).

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

"Unique" show tonight according to Rob, since they can't bring the Tension production to the show (will be the same for Voodoo Fest and the Vegas shows).

WTF? They're not going to have Tension production at the Vegas Shows? I'm going both nights. If it's true, this fucking sucks. Was it stated somewhere in writing or on video?

[Krazy]

WTF? They're not going to have Tension production at the Vegas Shows? I'm going both nights. If it's true, this fucking sucks. Was it stated somewhere in writing or on video?

It was stated... on Twitter, of course. Welcome to 2013!!Dennis St. Martin ‏@Reverbdelay 23 Oct (https://twitter.com/Reverbdelay/status/393050100513382400)
@rob_sheridan (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan) will the Asheville show have the arena tour set or a set similar to European festivals and lollapalooza?

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@Reverbdelay (https://twitter.com/Reverbdelay) Neither - it will be a unique show, since we’re unable to bring the Tension production in. Same in NOLA & Las Vegas.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

Fuck! Well, I'm sure it'll still be awesome. Time to catch up on some Tension YT videos... Now I really hope a fan film is made!

[Kyle]

What time do they go on tonight?

[icecream]

WTF? They're not going to have Tension production at the Vegas Shows? I'm going both nights. If it's true, this fucking sucks. Was it stated somewhere in writing or on video?
I recall during LITS there was one or two shows they couldn't get the lights so they played some rare songs and pretty different setlists to make up for it. I would be pretty stoked to get those, unless you can't make it to a Tension show. I guess there goes the theory that the two vegas shows were going to be recorded lol

[m15a]

WTF? They're not going to have Tension production at the Vegas Shows? I'm going both nights. If it's true, this fucking sucks. Was it stated somewhere in writing or on video?

i understand why you're annoyed, definitely, but i have the feeling you'll be happy to have those two vegas tickets once the concerts come around. (unless you're a concert visual artist or something like that.)

[icecream]

I would expect Down in It to be played at least once. Who knows what else will be played.
Off topic a bit, but is the festival tonight streaming any of the shows?

[Kyle]

No streaming.

[Corona Radiata]

What time do they go on tonight?

Midnight. Gary Numan is also playing this festival. He goes on at 8:15. Hopefully Robin joins him for a few songs, and later he joins NIN on stage.

[Corona Radiata]

Bosnian Rainbows on now. You can see NIN's lights behind them. http://instagram.com/p/f8tBZttQ6C/#

[Ryan]

Midnight. Gary Numan is also playing this festival. He goes on at 8:15. Hopefully Robin joins him for a few songs, and later he joins NIN on stage.

That would make sense, since the next two Florida shows are Numan + NIN.

[Krazy]

Bosnian Rainbows on now. You can see NIN's lights behind them. http://instagram.com/p/f8tBZttQ6C/#

Wait- this is in an arena or something? Thought it was a typical outdoors festival....

[Corona Radiata]

Wait- this is in an arena or something? Thought it was a typical outdoors festival....
Yeah, it's in an arena. There are several different venues that make up the festival all within walking distance. This is what it looks like inside the arena - http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8056/8132537438_accca8c1f0_z.jpg.

Gary Numan on now. You can see the Tension lighting rigs above the stage. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXiyPgCIgAARK4C.jpg

[Ryan]

Has Robin joined Gary onstage yet?

[Corona Radiata]

Has Robin joined Gary onstage yet?
I don't believe he did, and Gary's set is now over. Godspeed are next up at the arena.

[Ryan]

Any le updates?

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

I recall during LITS there was one or two shows they couldn't get the lights so they played some rare songs and pretty different setlists to make up for it. I would be pretty stoked to get those, unless you can't make it to a Tension show.
Having watched both the Lollapalooza and Reading festival videos (in that order), Reading just blew me away. How much of that was Trent being pissed off I dunno, but clearly they can still do a lot with just the lights and massive amounts of smoke. :p

[Corona Radiata]

Some contest winners backstage earlier with Trent. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXjXGhVIIAIZoh0.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXjR2CPCcAALXMC.png https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXjP9iBIcAANdt3.jpg

[Corona Radiata]

They're on https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXjiiWiIEAEJxg7.jpg http://instagram.com/p/f9PWDnMlha/# http://instagram.com/p/f9O0ZaNQzp/# http://instagram.com/p/f9Pm8RNQ0z/#

Copy of A
Sanctified

[Corona Radiata]

1,000,000 was played with Lisa and Sharlotte. http://telly.com/1CIDECN

[sick among the pure]

1,000,000 was played with Lisa and Sharlotte. http://telly.com/1CIDECN

NIN is hanging from the ceiling playing? DID TRENT LEARN NOTHING FROM PETER MURPHY?!

[Papagolash]

Nothing in terms of surprises yet. Frail/wretched, Terrible Lie I've seen.

edit: Burn too.

[Corona Radiata]

Burn with the ladies http://instagram.com/p/f9Wx1itQ_F/#

[captainbeyond]

so basically, all that seems to be lacking is the screens/projections

[Ryan]

"Unique" show our asses, Rob!

[Krazy]

"Unique" show our asses, Rob!

Was thinking the same thing. I'll hold out any NIN bashing until the set list is verified, and I hope "unique" isn't because of the back-ups in more songs....

[m15a]

"Unique" show our asses, Rob!

"unique" has a neutral meaning, too, which makes sense in the context of rob's tweet. the setup of visuals for this show was not equivalent to any of the past shows, which is what he said. he didn't say it'd be extra awesome. remember that rob's tweet was merely a response to a question. also, since rob is involved with visuals, i'm guessing he was mostly thinking about things from that perspective.

[ryanmcfly]

http://instagram.com/p/f9aQAvNQyl/

[Ryan]

http://instagram.com/p/f9aQAvNQyl/



"Copy Of A (http://www.ninwiki.com/Copy_Of_A)"
"Sanctified (http://www.ninwiki.com/Sanctified)"
"1,000,000 (http://www.ninwiki.com/1,000,000)"
"Terrible Lie (http://www.ninwiki.com/Terrible_Lie)"
"March Of The Pigs (http://www.ninwiki.com/March_Of_The_Pigs_%28song%29)"
"Piggy (http://www.ninwiki.com/Piggy)"
"All Time Low (http://www.ninwiki.com/All_Time_Low)"
"Disappointed (http://www.ninwiki.com/Disappointed)"
"Came Back Haunted (http://www.ninwiki.com/Came_Back_Haunted_%28song%29)"
"Find My Way (http://www.ninwiki.com/Find_My_Way)"
"The Frail (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Frail)"
"The Wretched (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Wretched)"
"The Big Come Down (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Big_Come_Down)"
"Survivalism (http://www.ninwiki.com/Survivalism_%28song%29)"
"Burn (http://www.ninwiki.com/Burn_%28song%29)"
"Even Deeper (http://www.ninwiki.com/Even_Deeper)"
"Wish (http://www.ninwiki.com/Wish_%28song%29)"
"The Hand That Feeds (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Hand_That_Feeds_%28song%29)"
"Head Like A Hole (http://www.ninwiki.com/Head_Like_A_Hole_%28song%29)"
"Hurt (http://www.ninwiki.com/Hurt_%28song%29)"

[ryanmcfly]

I really hope Voodoo gets streamed.

[captainbeyond]

There's really no reason that "Somewhat Damaged" isn't in every setlist. That shit is so heavy and tight sounding on this tour!

[Krazy]

There's really no reason that "Somewhat Damaged" isn't in every setlist. That shit is so heavy and tight sounding on this tour!

That and every time it's been played since the summer '06 tour. Was a great song on TF, didn't come off so good during the Fragility tour, and went up 11 levels when it was slightly reworked/heavier.

^^^ IMHO

[icecream]

Sooooo, I retract my previous statement that the setlists would have surprises. You may all proceed to mock me...

[icecream]

Has Robin joined Gary onstage yet?
Did I miss something? why would Robin join Gary :S

[otnavuskire]

Did I miss something? why would Robin join Gary :S

Because he's already joined his band on stage a few times in the last couple months.

[Ryan]

Did I miss something? why would Robin join Gary :S

He's joined the band onstage and also played guitar on a few songs on Gary's new record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinter_(Songs_From_A_Broken_Mind)

Performers

Gary Numan - vocals and keyboards
Ade Fenton - programming and keyboards
Robin Finck - guitars (tracks 1, 6, 9, 10)
Steve Harris - guitars (tracks 1, 7, 8, 10)
Tim Muddiman - guitars (tracks 2, 3, 7, 8, 11, 12) and bass (tracks 2, 3, 7, 8)

[Corona Radiata]

Did I miss something? why would Robin join Gary :S

He played on Gary's latest album and has joined Gary on stage for a couple shows as a special guest. The first was inbetween the Summer and Tension tours in Santa Ana and the second was on Friday in Atlanta.

[icecream]

I'm not a Numan fan so I had no idea. Thanks for the heads up!

[Ryan]

I'm not a Numan fan so I had no idea.

You need to fix that!

[nowimdowninit]

There's really no reason that "Somewhat Damaged" isn't in every setlist. That shit is so heavy and tight sounding on this tour!

LOL. It wasn't played last night because I was supposed to be there. See, every time I've seen NIN since '06, they have omitted "Somewhat Damaged." That is in spite of the fact that it's one of the songs I'd quite like to see.

I was very much going to be at Mountain Oasis, but late-in-the-game conflicts kept me at home. So, by cosmic fate, the show I would have been at had no "Somewhat Damaged." Actually, that was the weakest set list of the tour so far, if you ask me. I'm kinda glad I didn't make the 7 hour trek, because, if I had, right now I'd be doing a whole lot of trying to convince myself it was worth it.

EDIT: No I do not actually think I somehow "willed" it not to happen. I'm just saying, "just my luck."

[Mr.Metheus]

Crap, after seeing those photos I wish we'd gone to Mountain Oasis! When I was reading about it I just assumed that the venues were all super tiny and you'd have to wait in line for hours to have any chance at getting in to see NIN. Oh well, at least they only played one song that I didn't see at the Raleigh show.

[icecream]

You need to fix that!
I probably should considering I liked the songs he played with NIN at the Wave Goodbye club shows. Where would be a good place to start?

[Ryan]

The latest record.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeu8HpeLzDk

This totally makes me think Trent reads ETS from time to time.. Almost a direct response to what people have been saying about Tension lately.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

This totally makes me think Trent reads ETS from time to time..
If he's smart, he's ignoring us as much as possible. :p

But just in case he is trawling this thread: Play Everything. Even if it's just once, even if 90% of the fans think you've lost your mind, even if I won't be there to hear them all groaning. Heh.

[Ryan]

"...it's not Lights In The Sky.. *smiley face*"

[nowimdowninit]

If he's smart, he's ignoring us as much as possible. :p

But just in case he is trawling this thread: Play Everything. Even if it's just once, even if 90% of the fans think you've lost your mind, even if I won't be there to hear them all groaning. Heh.

And by everything, you mean TPD, AATCHB, HIS, WITT, Where is Everybody?, and all that stuff, right?

: P

[dvdglss]

he really should play "10 Miles High"

this version of NIN Live would be AWESOME to play it.

[Corona Radiata]

Any word on a Voodoo stream yet?

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

Decent video and great sound on this video from 10.21.13. The user uploaded the full show but removed it for some reason. (I messaged them but haven't heard back).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdDRXYqLb7Y This one also has some amazing video but pretty hideous audio. Multicam material for sure..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khxpU5oqec4

[Ryan]

First Florida show set:

Copy of A
1,000,000
Terrible Lie
March of the Pigs
Piggy
All Time Low
Disappointed
Came Back Haunted
Find My Way
Sanctified
I Would for You
The Frail
The Wretched
In Two
The Big Come Down
Running
A Warm Place
Somewhat Damaged
Wish
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole

Encore:

Reptile (With Gary Numan)
We Take Mystery (To Bed) (With Gary Numan)
Even Deeper
While I'm Still Here
Black Noise
Hurt

[Kyle]

Decent video and great sound on this video from 10.21.13. The user uploaded the full show but removed it for some reason. (I messaged them but haven't heard back).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdDRXYqLb7Y

This one also has some amazing video but pretty hideous video. Multicam material for sure..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khxpU5oqec4

I'm assuming you mean hideous audio for the second?

[Ryan]

We Take Mystery (To Bed) (With Gary Numan)


They most likely played this because of this:

"We Take Mystery (To Bed)" is a 1982 song by the British musician Gary Numan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Numan). Released as the second single from his I, Assassin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Assassin) album, it reached number nine in the UK Singles Chart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Singles_Chart) (the biggest of three Top 20 hits from the album and Numan's last Top 10 hit to date).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Take_Mystery_(To_Bed)#cite_note-1) It holds the distinction of having the shortest chart life of any Top 10 hit ever since the official UK chart was expanded to a Top 75, at just four weeks. Two music videos were made for the song; one being for the American market which begins outdoors with Numan and his band driving through New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City) in an open-top car before cutting to a studio performance of the song,[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Take_Mystery_(To_Bed)#cite_note-2) the other was an entirely studio-based video for the UK market featuring Numan by himself in a variety of costumes.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Take_Mystery_(To_Bed)#cite_note-3)
A different version of the song (known as the Early Version) is available as a bonus track on the 12" single (and subsequently on reissues of the album on CD) this early version was recorded in 1981 as part of early sessions for the album, I, Assassin. There is also another early version, which was discovered on the studio master tapes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_tapes) when Beggars Banquet Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggars_Banquet_Records) remastered the album in 1999, though this has never been released.

The extended version features a lengthy fretless bass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fretless_bass) solo by Pino Palladino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pino_Palladino).

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

yep, my bad...

[fillow]

I was totally expecting Metal to be played at the shows with Gary.

[Ryan]

Reptile with Gary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHPxiJNK7Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIs2WJn4IHI

[fillow]

Dear filmers: please stop zooming your camera in and out while filming a song. The sound quality drops are annoying. Thank you.

[ZASmusic]

They most likely played this because of this:

"We Take Mystery (To Bed)" is a 1982 song by the British musician Gary Numan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Numan). Released as the second single from his I, Assassin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Assassin) album, it reached number nine in the UK Singles Chart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Singles_Chart) (the biggest of three Top 20 hits from the album and Numan's last Top 10 hit to date).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Take_Mystery_(To_Bed)#cite_note-1) It holds the distinction of having the shortest chart life of any Top 10 hit ever since the official UK chart was expanded to a Top 75, at just four weeks. Two music videos were made for the song; one being for the American market which begins outdoors with Numan and his band driving through New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City) in an open-top car before cutting to a studio performance of the song,[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Take_Mystery_(To_Bed)#cite_note-2) the other was an entirely studio-based video for the UK market featuring Numan by himself in a variety of costumes.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Take_Mystery_(To_Bed)#cite_note-3)
A different version of the song (known as the Early Version) is available as a bonus track on the 12" single (and subsequently on reissues of the album on CD) this early version was recorded in 1981 as part of early sessions for the album, I, Assassin. There is also another early version, which was discovered on the studio master tapes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_tapes) when Beggars Banquet Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggars_Banquet_Records) remastered the album in 1999, though this has never been released.

The extended version features a lengthy fretless bass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fretless_bass) solo by Pino Palladino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pino_Palladino).


We Take Mystery To Bed is one of my favorite Numan songs. Cannot wait to hear how it sounded as played by NIN. Will it be as funky?

[botley]

Tiny clip of it here (fast forward to 4:15):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpaqNg5PzGk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpaqNg5PzGk)

EDIT: and the intro (http://t.co/xGyADgb5Zc) (with miscued vocal entrance, heheh).

[icecream]

I think that's the best setlist so far. Perfect! Is it just me or does Numan's dancing seem really...awkward?

[Kyle]

Trent's doesn't?

[Ryan]

Gary's stage presence is about as far from awkward as you can get.

Bernard Sumner, that's talking awkward.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

Damn. 27 songs tonight?? So jealous.

10.31.13 Amway Center - Orlando, FL

Copy of A
1,000,000
Terrible Lie
March of the Pigs
Piggy
All Time Low
Disappointed
Came Back Haunted
Find My Way
Various Methods of Escape
The Frail
The Wretched
Satellite
Survivalism
Running
A Warm Place
Somewhat Damaged
Wish
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole

Encore:
The Day the World Went Away
Reptile (with Gary Numan)
We Take Mystery (To Bed) (Gary Numan cover) (with Gary Numan)
Even Deeper
While I'm Still Here
Black Noise
Hurt

[fillow]

longest encore so far

[Ryan]

Damn. 27 songs tonight?? So jealous.

10.31.13 Amway Center - Orlando, FL

Copy of A
1,000,000
Terrible Lie
March of the Pigs
Piggy
All Time Low
Disappointed
Came Back Haunted
Find My Way
Various Methods of Escape
The Frail
The Wretched
Satellite
Survivalism
Running
A Warm Place
Somewhat Damaged
Wish
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole

Encore:
The Day the World Went Away
Reptile (with Gary Numan)
We Take Mystery (To Bed) (Gary Numan cover) (with Gary Numan)
Even Deeper
While I'm Still Here
Black Noise
Hurt

Why'd this setlist have to make me so hard? Make it go away.

[icklekitty]

I'm still irritated that Hurt comes after While I'm Still Here at every show.

[Kyle]

I'm still irritated that Hurt comes after While I'm Still Here at every show.

Seeing a show in person made me realize it worked better than I thought it would. But I still think Black Noise would make a great closer (that's with a lower case 'c').

Maybe he just wants to play one more song while he's still there.

[fillow]

Spreadsheet updated up to Florida shows
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apv136EBfUp0dFpxTXpMZVhHTnNKZnNjSUVPNW1DT FE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

[JonCh101]

What a setlist!

[Corona Radiata]

I guess Voodoo isn't streaming. Looks like the only chance we have of getting a full Tension show proshot is a BluRay.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

It's weird. Various Methods of Escape is one of my favorite tracks from the album, but somehow it's a lot less interesting live. (Still better than I Would for You.) The chorus just doesn't have the same impact. :confused:

But I'm warming up to Satellite now — and the visuals certainly don't hurt.

[wight rabbit]

The extended version features a lengthy fretless bass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fretless_bass) solo by Pino Palladino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pino_Palladino).


A commenter on this upload of the song seems to think it was Mick Karn, but a quick Google search tells me that his only Numan work was on Dance. I wonder why he thinks it isn't Pino...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXzMDUZif40

[Ryan]

A commenter on this upload of the song seems to think it was Mick Karn, but a quick Google search tells me that his only Numan work was on Dance. I wonder why he thinks it isn't Pino...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXzMDUZif40

I think this is all the evidence we need:

Gary Numan Official ✔ @numanofficial (https://twitter.com/numanofficial) Great to meet up with my 'I Assassin' album mate Pino Palladino again, now playing bass with @nineinchnails (https://twitter.com/nineinchnails). GN pic.twitter.com/v6jXUKUl9M (http://t.co/v6jXUKUl9M)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXZkuwEIMAA0qBn.jpg (http://twitter.com/numanofficial/status/393612771956633600/photo/1)

[icecream]

I wonder why this tour is called Tension. I haven't seen it but anyone who has been to a show know why?

[gorast]

I don't know why a single YouTube comment would call anything into question, honestly.

[Ryan]

I wonder why this tour is called Tension. I haven't seen it but anyone who has been to a show know why?

Someone else asked that recently, and I think the closest answer we got was that Trent mentioned "Copy Of A" being about tension in an interview. And, well, he does open every single god damn show with that song.

I'm sure it has more relevance than that, though.

[Kyle]

I don't know why a single YouTube comment would call anything into question, honestly.

Youtube commenters are never wrong.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

I think the meaning of Tension is more about the constant feel of the show. There is no loud part/quiet part/loud part dynamic this time around. There's also no full blast, all out rage to it either. The whole show sort of lives in the middle ground. That's also the way I'd describe Hesitation Marks. Maybe Tension was a runner-up for album names.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

I'M TENSE. ISN'T THAT ENOUGH?

… uh, sorry.


I think the meaning of Tension is more about the constant feel of the show. There is no loud part/quiet part/loud part dynamic this time around. There's also no full blast, all out rage to it either. The whole show sort of lives in the middle ground. That's also the way I'd describe Hesitation Marks. Maybe Tension was a runner-up for album names.
Are we really so rage deprived this time? I was already feeling winded after Somewhat Damaged.

Or you could mean compared to 90s NIN, which I didn't experience first hand. I just have to take everybody's word for that…

[Krazy]

Because Lights In The Sky 2.0 just doesn't have the same ring to it!

All seriousness I think this was asked in another thread, kind of follows the "depressive feeling" (can't think of the right word right now) of previous tour theme names such as:

- Hate 1990
- Further Down The Spiral/Self Destruct
- Fragility
- Wave Goodbye (kind of obvious, at that time anyways)
- (LITS doesn't necessarily fill that pattern but was a song off the latest album and considering the lighting and production it fits the tour theme)

It's probably something that was mentioned and seemed to "stick" with the NIN camp.

My $0.02 on it.

[m15a]

I think the meaning of Tension is more about the constant feel of the show. There is no loud part/quiet part/loud part dynamic this time around.

not counting the encore, i felt there was was pretty clear (thought not necessarily strict) loud/quiet/loud dynamic to the concert. TL, 1,000,000, and MOTP at the beginning and wish and HLAH at the end, right?

i don't think the tour name has much to do with the tour in particular, beyond the fact that the tour has a lot of the new album. isn't the tour name usually some reference to the new album (in cases where there was a new album)?

i mentioned it before, but "hesitation" and "tension" have definitions that are similar.

[icecream]

Alright, thanks for the clarification! I guess I'll get to see the Tension first hand later this month. Can't wait!!

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

Spoiler alert! Full Tension show on YT with great audio and decent video (single camera, zooms are little pixelated, but the effect is kinda cool).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQtNkthLsFA&amp;feature=c4-overview&amp;list=UUhDbej_PHsfLcyxPxGeOPtw

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

And then I found videos from a guy who blows all the other Tension clips out of the water.. He shot several full shows and posted them on YT. Here's one song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGKvZtExHQU

[Ash512]

I wonder why this tour is called Tension. I haven't seen it but anyone who has been to a show know why?
It probably made more sense before Trent decided to scrap the original design and change the line-up a few days before the beginning of the tour. Too late to change the name of the tour this far into promotion and ticket sales.

[gorast]

What's the start time for NIN's Voodoo set?

(It's so nice to be able to freely dick around on ETS now that I've seen the show.)

[slave2thewage]

Oooh, Matt Skiba from Alkaline Trio is watching them at Voodoo. Everything perfect is related.

I've seen mentions of CBH and Warm Place on Twitter, but I'm not seeking out the setlist tbh.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

I checked out the setlist and A Warm Place was played at NOLA tonight. Interesting since, being a festival show and all, Rob said there wouldn't be any screens. Anyone have footage of the performance? I'm anxious to see what they did. Hopefully that means they'll bust it out in Vegas. That's one of my bucket list tracks to hear live.

[nooneimportant]

I checked out the setlist and A Warm Place was played at NOLA tonight. Interesting since, being a festival show and all, Rob said there wouldn't be any screens. Anyone have footage of the performance? I'm anxious to see what they did. Hopefully that means they'll bust it out in Vegas. That's one of my bucket list tracks to hear live.

I bet they did what they usually do for that track. The only difference would be no giant screen.

[gorast]

They probably just drenched the stage in fog to obscure the fact that Alessandro was the only one there.

[Leviathant]

Yup. Lots of fog. ( I know, "cool story, bro")

[ninjaw]

I'm actually creating my Sunrise vid... funny thing I filmed the moment where Trent is coming back from backstage last minute after A warm place, I was REALLY close to the right and so backstage, and i shot that epic moment when trent jumped into audience... online in 2 or 3 hours

[ninjaw]

Enjoy, plz find me audio so I can do the same from left side of Orlando
http://youtu.be/PYxVLPt2jcM

[Corona Radiata]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYRZuvTCAAAwa6L.jpg http://instagram.com/p/gUKlpKpjsD/# https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYRcfwBCQAArIXx.jpg:large https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q86/s720x720/1382346_10151940498983686_1157807731_n.jpg

[Corona Radiata]

They're being introduced by acltv producer Terry Lickona. http://instagram.com/p/gUMlCwLhYc/

[Ryan]

How long do they hit the stage from now?

[Corona Radiata]

Setlist https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYReqfvIQAADL6X.jpg:large

[gorast]

Yo, opening with All Time Low is a fucking great idea. I cannot wait for this special to air in like six months.

Six months...ugh.

[Ryan]

Setlist https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYReqfvIQAADL6X.jpg:large

Professional recordings of I Would For You and Various Methods Of Escape, woohoo!

And also, finally not opening with Copy Of A.

[Corona Radiata]

Seems like a pretty artsy setlist. I dig it. Would have preferred In Two instead of Running. Pic - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYRiYMZCUAEwx4c.jpg:large

[Ryan]

Setlist https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYReqfvIQAADL6X.jpg:large

Also note that is setlist v2.0 - there may be changes in the actual show.

[Corona Radiata]

The Wretched https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYRl2sICQAAQ_W7.jpg:large

[Kyle]

Yo, opening with All Time Low is a fucking great idea. I cannot wait for this special to air in like six months.

Six months...ugh.

Has an air date been announced?

[Ryan]

Has an air date been announced?

No, but I think an earth date has.

[Ryan]

Someone facepalm that post for me, as I can't facepalm myself. :)

[Corona Radiata]

Some great tour photos on NIN's tumblr http://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/post/66006473722/nine-inch-nails-tension-2013-on-tour-now

[Kyle]

Hahaha. I think my autocorrect added that space and I couldn't be bothered to change it.

Airdate. Hmmmm. Didn't add one there. Maybe I completely mangled the word. Or maybe I'm full of shit.

[m15a]

why is no one talking about the typo on the setlist!?

:p

for a 17 (or 18 or 19) song setlist, looks good.

[Corona Radiata]

I asked the producer when this will air on Twitter. He told me Spring 2014. Also, a cool pic - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYRtEXCCIAE0dus.jpg:large

[Corona Radiata]

In This Twilight https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYRxeSrCMAMjJRK.jpg:large

[Ryan]

why is no one talking about the typo on the setlist!?

:p

for a 17 (or 18 or 19) song setlist, looks good.

Which typo?

[Corona Radiata]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYRzcLuIUAAIDpp.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYRzu32CEAAr55l.jpg:large

[Corona Radiata]

Leslie Nichols ‏@TheOtherLeslie 3h (https://twitter.com/TheOtherLeslie/status/397571596069527553) Control room burst into spontaneous applause as we faded to black. That doesn't usually happen. #nin (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23nin&src=hash) #acltv (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23acltv&src=hash)

[m15a]

Which typo?

"Austin City Limite"

photos of the video look amazing. can't wait.

[Kyle]

"Austin City Limite"

photos of the video look amazing. can't wait.

Haha you suck. :P

I'm scouring the whole thing looking for a typo. And on my phone of course where I can barely read the fine print on the bottom. Being annoyed with the your/you're typo that is in TWO different NIN lyric books, I took it as a challenge to find this.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

Setlist https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYReqfvIQAADL6X.jpg:large
The heavy emphasis on HM isn't surprising, but it's really weird seeing how many of the usual suspects are missing. Aside from Hurt, Survivalism is the closest thing here to a "casual fan" song.

No March of the Pigs, no Wish … just The Wretched to represent the heavy side.

Intriguing — gonna have to listen to this playlist in the car tomorrow.

[icecream]

What if the ACL show is what Trent had wanted the typical Tension setlist to be? No March of the Pigs, Terrible Lie etc... I don't want to sound like I know what Trent is thinking and what not, just maybe this is the rethinking of what NIN could be. I dunno. He probably just wanted to showcase the new material. The set looks awesome though. The only requests I have is Everything and In Two somewhere in there.

[ekrekel]

I think the HM heavy setlist is what the record label wanted. I agree with wanting In Two, but I'd almost rather hear it tomorrow when here's room to move around.

[suprefan]

Professional recordings of I Would For You and Various Methods Of Escape, woohoo!

And also, finally not opening with Copy Of A.

ACL will only air an hour of the full set. Dont get your hopes up.

[Ryan]

ACL will only air an hour of the full set. Dont get your hopes up.

I'm sure the whole thing will turn up somewhere.

[suprefan]

Because somebody from the ACL crew is just going to leak it?

[Kyle]

I think the HM heavy setlist is what the record label wanted. I agree with wanting In Two, but I'd almost rather hear it tomorrow when here's room to move around.

Or maybe because this is airing on pbs and this has probably the least amount of profanities and the least amount of "heavy" music out of any NIN show I've seen. When this was announced I pretty much expected the show to be the typical tension setlist with certain songs removed. I'm surprised to see The Wretched in there, but other than that if you asked me a week ago to predict the setlist for this show, I would have been very very close.

[icecream]

Or maybe because this is airing on pbs and this has probably the least amount of profanities and the least amount of "heavy" music out of any NIN show I've seen. When this was announced I pretty much expected the show to be the typical tension setlist with certain songs removed. I'm surprised to see The Wretched in there, but other than that if you asked me a week ago to predict the setlist for this show, I would have been very very close.
I expected at least Wish in there somewhere. No THTF or HLAH I got. Never the less, pretty great setlist.

[Kyle]

I expected at least Wish in there somewhere. No THTF or HLAH I got. Never the less, pretty great setlist.

I would expect either one of them before Wish by a landslide. Those are both heavily played on the radio and completely clean. Wish is neither. I still wasn't surprised to see them not in there though. Only surprise was The Wretched. Although now that I think about it Sharlotte and Lisa supposedly figured in heavy on that song (wasn't played at the show I was at) so maybe that's why.

Actually i I think everything on that setlist is either from HM or features the backup singers (or both of course) which makes total sense.

[gorast]

THTF has pretty heavy political connotations that PBS would likely want to avoid, though, due to the way Trent would present it during the Bush years. I'm honestly kind of surprised that The Wretched made it into the set, but I'm almost 100% sure it won't air in the special. I really hope that All Time Low and Various Methods of Escape at least make the cut - In This Twilight, too, because fuck you if you don't think that's a gorgeous song in every situation.

[WorzelG]

Great photos from the ACL filming on the Brooklyn Vegan blog

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2013/11/nine_inch_nails_17.html

For anyone who was there, did they play Black Noise after While I'm Still Here?

[billpulsipher]

PBS broadcast a Pantera/White Zombie concert back in the day, they bleeped out the cursewords

[BRoswell]

When Radiohead was on, they dropped the audio when Thom sang "fucked up" on one of the songs they did. It comes with the territory.

[simonn]

Great photos from the ACL filming on the Brooklyn Vegan blog

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2013/11/nine_inch_nails_17.html

For anyone who was there, did they play Black Noise after While I'm Still Here?

Cool pictures. The immature part of me thinks could they 'In This Twilight' that cutesy backdrop....

[WorzelG]

Cool pictures. The immature part of me thinks could they 'In This Twilight' that cutesy backdrop....

Did you see they put Rob Sheridan in there as Mario?

https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/397598951248916480/photo/1

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

This was posted on the Austin City Limits show thread. V 1.0 maybe?

http://i40.tinypic.com/30j68ic.jpg

[Kyle]

This was posted on the Austin City Limits show thread. V 1.0 maybe?

http://i40.tinypic.com/30j68ic.jpg


Wait..... What? Whoa....

[simonn]

Did you see they put Rob Sheridan in there as Mario?

https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/397598951248916480/photo/1

Saw that earlier, was a bit random!

[ekrekel]

Yeah. All The Love was not played neither was Black Noise.

[Kyle]

No Black Noise? That song was unexpectedly awesome live. I'm sad. :(

hopefully we'll get a full Tension home video.

keep in mind though this setlist has confirmed they've at least been working on All the Love in the World. Of course we can say the same about Everything.....

[hani]

ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD

WHA-

WHA-
wait
WHA-

wh-
WHA why wasn't it played?????????????????????????

[Dinki Di]

Yeah. All The Love was not played neither was Black Noise.

Are you sure? I could of sworn they went straight into a shortened version of Black Noise.

[gorast]

They cut Black Noise? Really? Where would they do that? The two are even more joined at the hip live than they are in the album.

[icklekitty]

I want to see the bottom of that sheet of A4, where they usually put the reference number for the setlist.

Cos anyone can type shit.