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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdean View Post
    Not The Actual Events
    The Actual Events
    Events 3: The Duality of Being
    Fixed it for you:

    Not The Actual Events
    The Actual Events
    Year Zero 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    Fixed it for you:

    Not The Actual Events
    The Actual Events
    Year Zero 2
    Not The Actual Events
    The Actual Events
    Tokyo Drift

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    So, the upcoming CD m i g h t contain m o r e than initial 5 tracks (don't blame me if it doesn't)

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    ok, is that CD release available to preorder anywhere in the u.k.?
    i think i may pick it up now


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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker973 View Post
    EP #2 will come with a metaphysical component - you receive nothing, but are expected to contemplate its nature as though it did, in fact, exist.

    EP #3 will include an astrophysical component - you open the box and get sucked into a black hole.
    Looking forward to the black hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Looking forward to the black hole.
    I got one for you if you want (it's an innocent joke)

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    I would be totally ok with the 3rd ep Coming with some sort of package that will hold the whole set, and keep everything together. that would be cool.

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    Just the permalink : http://a.co/0RnrmWN

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    Just kind of a funny story. I had my physical component opened but in the shipping envelope on my kitchen counter. My parents watched my four year old daughter the other night, and I noticed that they had put the shirt she was wearing on the washing machine to be washed and it had some black stuff on it. She has a dry erase easel and every now and then she gets the marker residue on her, so I didn't think anything of it.

    So a couple days later, my parents were over again and as they're about to leave my dad picks up the envelope and says, "by the way, what the HELL is in this?! She (my daughter) got ahold of it and took off and by the time I got to her she was covered in black shit." I started laughing, and then had to explain the whole backstory of the physical component/no CD release, etc. They're like, so why is there a bunch of black shit in the envelope? I had no answer

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    "little bits of sticks and hair" 'Burning Bright'

    Can anyone, please, interpret what TR is referring to?

    Look at this pathetic place I made
    With little bits of sticks and hair, and anything I found along the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    Can anyone, please, interpret what TR is referring to?

    Look at this pathetic place I made
    With little bits of sticks and hair, and anything I found along the way
    Sure, here you go:

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    ^ That crossed my mind. Is he referring to his home and things inside it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    Can anyone, please, interpret what TR is referring to?

    Look at this pathetic place I made
    With little bits of sticks and hair, and anything I found along the way
    is it referring to trophies like a serial killer?

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    Could be The Collector reference

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    "You dig places 'till your fingers bleed..."


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    Trent has often talked about how his lyrics are culled from his journal entries, his most personal thoughts. I see it as a self-criticism of this very personal/self-focused approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    Can anyone, please, interpret what TR is referring to?

    Look at this pathetic place I made
    With little bits of sticks and hair, and anything I found along the way
    Metaphors and shit fam

    I feel it's self deprecation at what he's achieved - the whole song is about embracing/discussing/returning to a dark place, and that's just him shitting on his achievements

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    I've been thinking about Christ Cornell. I've always thought that as you get older and more mature you become more financially secure, get off the drugs, stabilize your life, focus on what you love and even build a family... there's no feeling in the world like having children.

    But no... I feel like 'Burning Bright' is one of the most pivotal songs I've heard from TR. I didn't think he was in a place like this, I thought he was able to survive (defeat) and control his Demon Seed...

    Maybe this is a just new reference to his Empire of Dirt... and like CASH he too will be old sitting in a room filled with shit that means nothing.

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    After Twin Peaks i don't really feel this EP is autobiographical at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    After Twin Peaks i don't really feel this EP is autobiographical at all
    Why would she's gone away reference reptile then?

    Sure, it could be used as a reference to the episode of Twin Peaks, but that doesn't mean it was made for it.

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    Come to think of it, Reptile may be retconned as being about Laura Palmer as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    Come to think of it, Reptile may be retconned as being about Laura Palmer as well.
    In fact, the synth of the "don't hurt me" part allways sounded like the Twin Peaks main theme to me.

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    Here's my take (without getting into too much detail)...



    1994 'Ruiner'

    Ruiner is a part of TR that is destructive and manipulative, it is so convincing he easily believes the shit it feeds him.

    Read the entire lyrics, I think it speaks to 'NOT THE ACTUAL EVENTS'



    1999 'The Fragile'

    Trent sings about a part of himself (she/her) that see's the world in a better and brighter light. He is constantly (in many other songs as well as 'TF') struggling to hold onto "her", that mechanism that enables him to understand the outside world and maybe even see it as a happier place. However, he is constantly battling unwanted feelings and thoughts, which want to destroy her.

    Also, he mentions building a wall to keep them (RUINER) on the other side.


    2008 'Demon Seed'

    It keeps growing, and I can feel it breath



    2017 'Shes Gone'

    Not sure what happened. He is on his own, and she is gone.


    2017 'Fields on Fire'

    Without her, the wall/surface has broken and it has allowed them (RUINER/DEMON SEED) to break through and start working TR.





    SO I believe 'NTAE' is one of the most terrible albums I've ever heard form TR. I say this because it sounds like TR, after all these years, has crumbled. All these years spent getting stronger, continually patching up the cracks, ignoring, building, collecting, learning, steering... but alas curiosity has killed the cat. 'Fields on Fire'


    Imagine a big solid strong concrete wall. Imagine it with a big deep fucking crack. TR is on one side, ruiner is on the other... was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    Here's my take (without getting into too much detail)...



    1994 'Ruiner'

    Ruiner is a part of TR that is destructive and manipulative, it is so convincing he easily believes the shit it feeds him.

    Read the entire lyrics, I think it speaks to 'NOT THE ACTUAL EVENTS'



    1999 'The Fragile'

    Trent sings about a part of himself (she/her) that see's the world in a better and brighter light. He is constantly (in many other songs as well as 'TF') struggling to hold onto "her", that mechanism that enables him to understand the outside world and maybe even see it as a happier place. However, he is constantly battling unwanted feelings and thoughts, which want to destroy her.

    Also, he mentions building a wall to keep them (RUINER) on the other side.


    2008 'Demon Seed'

    It keeps growing, and I can feel it breath



    2017 'Shes Gone'

    Not sure what happened. He is on his own, and she is gone.


    2017 'Fields on Fire'

    Without her, the wall/surface has broken and it has allowed them (RUINER/DEMON SEED) to break through and start working TR.





    SO I believe 'NTAE' is one of the most terrible albums I've ever heard form TR. I say this because it sounds like TR, after all these years, has crumbled. All these years spent getting stronger, continually patching up the cracks, ignoring, building, collecting, learning, steering... but alas curiosity has killed the cat. 'Fields on Fire'


    Imagine a big solid strong concrete wall. Imagine it with a big deep fucking crack. TR is on one side, ruiner is on the other... was.
    Also, in all of this you forgot "In Two" followed by While I'm Still Here/Black Noise"

    In Two is about Trent not being able to tell apart this Demon Seed/Ruiner from his soft side, then we get While I'm Still Here then Black Noise kicks in, which is easily the most evil sounding track on the rather soft and human Hesitation Marks, it's as if it is at this point where the human side dies (While I'm Still Here). This is the last time where we can hear that human side until the chaos of Black Noise comes in, swallowing the human side pressumambly. "Little more, every day, falls apart and, slips away", from Black Noise right into Not The Actual Events.

    Also, choruses from Everything.

    All the walls begin to dissolve away
    Feel your hands begin to shake
    And just who you think you used to be
    All begins to bend and break


    But this thing that lives inside of me
    Will surely rise and wake
    And his seed that bleeds right through to me
    As it comes to grab and take
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    Trent is fine. He’s just giving you pigs what you want. Albums about self loathing and the human condition.

    Trent is a good business man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    After Twin Peaks i don't really feel this EP is autobiographical at all
    Trent did say it was about a nightmarish daydream he had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streetman View Post
    Trent did say it was about a nightmarish daydream he had.
    That's pretty interesting, wasn't Year Zero created in a samilliar fashion?

    And Ghosts was made for day dreams too.

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    When you don't really have a Dayjob job what else do you do? Daydream

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