Random NIN Questions

[piggy]

Remember those "journal entries" from the making of The Fragile from nin.com? I've found them on NINWiki, but I can't seem to find the journal entries from With Teeth. Anyone know where those are archived?

I don't know but if I find them, they're going on the wiki.

[Harry Seaward]

Is the line in "Survivalism"

"What, you'd do the same thing in the circumstance, I'm sure you understand" (as stated by ninwiki)

or

"Once you do the same thing in the circumstance I'm sure you'll understand" (as stated by me)

EDIT: OH WAIT. ninwiki has an addendum at the bottom of the lyrics.

"However, the last lines of the third verse are changed to the following on the actual recording:

I turn just keep on walking
What you'd do the same thing in the circumstance I'm sure you'll understand"

[zecho]

Is the line in "Survivalism"

"What, you'd do the same thing in the circumstance, I'm sure you understand" (as stated by ninwiki)

or

"Once you do the same thing in the circumstance I'm sure you'll understand" (as stated by me)"

[Harry Seaward]

But even ninwiki mentions how the official lyrics are wrong. That much is certain. I'm just trying to pin down exactly what is sung.

[bwary]

Remember those "journal entries" from the making of The Fragile from nin.com? I've found them on NINWiki, but I can't seem to find the journal entries from With Teeth. Anyone know where those are archived?

I don't know but if I find them, they're going on the wiki.

these?

[paul_guyet]

these?

YES! Thank you! Were these on ninwiki and I just missed them?

[paul_guyet]

But even ninwiki mentions how the official lyrics are wrong. That much is certain. I'm just trying to pin down exactly what is sung.

Pretty sure it's "What you'd do the same thing..." but he sings "Once you do the same thing..." live.

[botley]

"What? You'd do the same thing". That's what he sings.

[slave2thewage]

I just realised I've been singing this wrong for the last ten years. I was convinced it was "But you'd do the same thing in the circumstance, I'm sure you understand".

[xolotl]

I just realised I've been singing this wrong for the last ten years. I was convinced it was "But you'd do the same thing in the circumstance, I'm sure you understand".

Yeah, me as well. I suppose that doesn't really change the meaning at all, at least.

[piggy]

YES! Thank you! Were these on ninwiki and I just missed them?

Doesn't look like it. I've put them here where we already had the accompanying photos:
http://www.nin.wiki/Nin.com/Current_2004

[SM Rollinger]

Pretty sure it's "What you'd do the same thing..." but he sings "Once you do the same thing..." live.

The webster hall show he just kinda mumbles it.

[Harry Seaward]

How many NIN rehearsals have surfaced on the internet? Not counting things like the videos on the The Slip of course.

I'm currently listening to the 2013 Festival Rehearsals (I'm halfway through "Copy of A").

I'm less interested in the actual performances of the songs themselves (although sbd quality live NIN performances without crowd noise are always awesome) but I am very interested in hearing TR give notes to the rest of the band and crew during the rehearsals. That's really what I'm looking for.

So where can I find the biggest amount of that sort of behind the scenes, sausage-making stuff?

[fillow]

How many NIN rehearsals have surfaced on the internet? Not counting things like the videos on the The Slip of course.

I'm currently listening to the 2013 Festival Rehearsals (I'm halfway through "Copy of A").

I'm less interested in the actual performances of the songs themselves (although sbd quality live NIN performances without crowd noise are always awesome) but I am very interested in hearing TR give notes to the rest of the band and crew during the rehearsals. That's really what I'm looking for.

So where can I find the biggest amount of that sort of behind the scenes, sausage-making stuff?

There's a big set of songs from With Teeth tour rehearsals, but IIRC they're just simple runs-through without any audible instructions.
The most obvious thing would be JLYI clip from Fragility era, but I guess you know this one.

[joplinpicasso]

Hey all - question about ATLITW, one of my faves from WT:

Does anyone know if the Twilight Zone sample was originally included and then removed for the initial record for copyright reasons, or was it integrated into the song post-hoc for the instrumental release? There are noticeably fewer samples on WT, so I'm wondering what the deal is. I feel it adds to the song but maybe it would've cluttered his vocal performance.

[Pyract]

Hey all - question about ATLITW, one of my faves from WT:

Does anyone know if the Twilight Zone sample was originally included and then removed for the initial record for copyright reasons, or was it integrated into the song post-hoc for the instrumental release? There are noticeably fewer samples on WT, so I'm wondering what the deal is. I feel it adds to the song but maybe it would've cluttered his vocal performance.

It didn't originate with the instrumental. It originally showed up in the Best-of "The Definitive NIN - Deep Cuts" torrent uploaded by Seed0 (with vocals).

[buckaroo]

Is there a place that list all of the "rare" nine inch nails related tracks, where they are available and what the definitive digital version would be? For example... Stone Cold Crazy - was this only ever released as promo? on what format? is there a definitive digital version and what is the format and quality? Juno - was this only made available through iTunes and is the definitive digital version AAC / ALAC? March of the Pigs (video version) - is the best place to get this from The Downward Spiral DE dual disc? Last (Butch Vig Remix) - was this only ever made available through nin.remix.com... etc. It would be helpful if there was a central place that had all of this info.

[TheBang]

Is there a place that list all of the "rare" nine inch nails related tracks, where they are available and what the definitive digital version would be? For example... Stone Cold Crazy - was this only ever released as promo? on what format? is there a definitive digital version and what is the format and quality? Juno - was this only made available through iTunes and is the definitive digital version AAC / ALAC? March of the Pigs (video version) - is the best place to get this from The Downward Spiral DE dual disc? Last (Butch Vig Remix) - was this only ever made available through nin.remix.com... etc. It would be helpful if there was a central place that had all of this info.

I was actually just thinking about something very similar to this recently, except for basically all the tracks. Has anyone made a list of every unique version of every track available, and what media they're available on?

[ChipRock]

Is there a place that list all of the "rare" nine inch nails related tracks...

I'd certainly like to see such a list. I'm really annoyed at myself for not keeping proper track of official downloads when they were available. I'm mainly thinking of nin.remix.com stuff. For example, I don't think I've ever see the Thrust mix of Closer higher than 128. I believe Butch Vig's Last appeared recently on CD, presumably from a high quality original source. I believe Juno was available exclusively through iTunes. I never got the original Deep Cuts torrent so I don't know what quality the allt. mix of All The Love In The World was available at.

I don't know where the best place would be to make such a list available, but I'd be happy to help put one together. I did start my own list of every single version of every Nine Inch Nails song, but sadly it's on my PC at work and I'll be away for a while now. Crap.

[seasonsinthesky]

Sounds like someone should volunteer to make ninwiki pages for this stuff.

[Onslaught Six]

Anyone got an archive of the photos of the gear NIN auctioned off circa 2010 after the Wave Goodbye tour? Found a lot of articles but they all link to the original auctions. Surely a fandom this obsessed saved all the photos somewhere...right?

[xolotl]

Anyone got an archive of the photos of the gear NIN auctioned off circa 2010 after the Wave Goodbye tour? Found a lot of articles but they all link to the original auctions. Surely a fandom this obsessed saved all the photos somewhere...right?

Hah, I am your obsessed fan who collected all those: http://theslip.apocalyptech.com/ninebay/ - Enjoy!

Edit: I should maybe mention that if anyone wants a .zip archive of all that, for quick local browsing rather than having to go through the site, just let me know. The source data for all that stuff's also in a ridiculous but standardized flat-file format which would be pretty trivial to script to export into other formats, etc. I wonder if I should just upload all that to github...

[Pyract]

Hah, I am your obsessed fan who collected all those: http://theslip.apocalyptech.com/ninebay/ - Enjoy!

Edit: I should maybe mention that if anyone wants a .zip archive of all that, for quick local browsing rather than having to go through the site, just let me know. The source data for all that stuff's also in a ridiculous but standardized flat-file format which would be pretty trivial to script to export into other formats, etc. I wonder if I should just upload all that to github...

This is awesome, thank you!

[Amaro]

Are the Add Violence patches iron-on?

[Xvostya]

http://popmarket.ru/?page=view/flypa...&category_id=&

Hmmm, Add Violence - release date for digital: 25 aug, physical cd: 15 sept. Oh, really?!?

Am i missed something? Or that's alternative reality?


Or Panel K is working in full already??

Need my watervodka...

[Senateguard33]

I'd certainly like to see such a list. I'm really annoyed at myself for not keeping proper track of official downloads when they were available. I'm mainly thinking of nin.remix.com stuff. For example, I don't think I've ever see the Thrust mix of Closer higher than 128. I believe Butch Vig's Last appeared recently on CD, presumably from a high quality original source. I believe Juno was available exclusively through iTunes. I never got the original Deep Cuts torrent so I don't know what quality the allt. mix of All The Love In The World was available at.

I don't know where the best place would be to make such a list available, but I'd be happy to help put one together. I did start my own list of every single version of every Nine Inch Nails song, but sadly it's on my PC at work and I'll be away for a while now. Crap.

ninwiki.com has info for all of this material, although different versions of songs (ie the thrust remix) would be listed under the page for "closer". (and so forth)

[Jon]

ninwiki.com has info for all of this material, although different versions of songs (ie the thrust remix) would be listed under the page for "closer". (and so forth)

If this is going into the ninwiki, I'd rather see something with a layout closer to the List Of BPM page.

[TheBang]

ninwiki.com has info for all of this material, although different versions of songs (ie the thrust remix) would be listed under the page for "closer". (and so forth)

If this is going into the ninwiki, I'd rather see something with a layout closer to the List Of BPM page.

Yeah, exactly. I'd rather have a comprehensive list format, rather than having to dig through each individual song page. Also, I noticed ninwiki is not entirely comprehensive. It often does not list minor variations like radio edits, nor does it usually provide durations for any versions other than the main song.

[TheBang]

Hmmm, Add Violence - release date for digital: 25 aug, physical cd: 15 sept. Oh, really?!?

The CD was mentioned in the original AV announcement:

http://www.nin.com/nine-inch-nails-a...ing-21-july-2/

I believe there is an NTAE CD coming out too:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071VZ8V46

[Xvostya]

The CD was mentioned in the original AV announcement:

http://www.nin.com/nine-inch-nails-a...ing-21-july-2/

I believe there is an NTAE CD coming out too:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071VZ8V46

Yep, looks like. Collector's treat
Found EU release mention:
"Mit “Less Than” veröffentlichen Nine Inch Nails heute Abend den ersten Vorboten zur neuen EP, Add Violence, die am 1. September physisch erscheinen wird. Die 5-Track-Platte ist nach "Not The Actual Events" vom letzten Dezember der zweite Teil einer dreiteiligen EP-Reihe."