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I swear, in my fucking life, I have never felt so proud to be Scottish, yet so horrified to be British.
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Doesn't matter anyway, can't happen because this would require retroactive legislation and the UK won't invent new laws just because some petitioners didn't like an outcome.Originally Posted by WorzelG
This is interesting speculation, albeit a little simplistic: Boris Johnson's reaction to his win may be subdued, because he just realized how fucked he is.
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Yep, from a sociological point of view it's fascinating (and terrifying) to see people embrace a nihilistic interpretation of the world. But you can see where it's all rooted.
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Except that, contrary to the relatively thriving and free United Kingdom, the aforementioned countries have even more to lose. The mere cost of switching back your currency could drive those countries into the ground.Meanwhile, nations that might genuinely describe themselves as ‘shackled’, have suffered such serious threats to their democracy as to have unelected Prime Ministers imposed upon them by the Troika, and have had their future forcibly removed thanks to the European Union, might look at Brexit and wonder.
They may wonder, they will, they'll even seriously entertain the thought. And I actually wish that they'll try to strong arm the EU, force it to re-evaluate its mechanisms. But UK was actually one of the only countries, beside Germany or Netherlands for instance, who can actually afford to leave I think.
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This ousting of Corbyn is disgraceful: he's being blamed for not winning a fight he didn't pick.
It's a dishonest pretext to pull the party rightward, back into Blairite territory: also, thus, a betrayal of Labor working class voters who voted Leave as a protest vote against globalization and Blairite neoliberalism that left them behind.
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A large proportion of those working class people voting against globalisation own smartphones and have for years plus lots of clothes / consumer goods made in China or wherever. Do they think the phones are made in some factory in Barnsley? You go back to some old labour protectionist society you can kiss all that goodbye
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That's fine in UK politics, though. If Labour has no confidence in him he has to go. He had a responsibility to make sure his party line was enforced- the Leave result being evidence enough that he couldn't do this. Moreover, there's speculation is that he took an deliberately passive role- effectively eroding the Stay campaign. If that has merit, against his party's wishes, he's done.
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BACKROLLS?!
Heh, Boris isn't running after all.
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BACKROLLS?!
Well, that was painfully unfunny.
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Got to admit I jumped the gun on posting it. Sorry.
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pu-sssy! Puu-sssy!
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He really is a weasel. At least now he can't do any more damage.
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It's like an 80's horror movie: Never say stuff like that out loud.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...cleveland-rnc/
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Brexit could have been a great opportunity for Labour to put the boot in to the Tories and call for a snap general election, running on a Remain in EU platform like Lib Dems are planning to do. Instead, they embarked on a totally bungled coup - they don't even have a challenger to Corbyn, and decided to implode instead.
Now the Tories look like they're steadying their ship: Theresa May, who might be the new PM, has said "Brexit is Brexit" and that there's no need for a general election until 2020, thus foreclosing chances this might be reversed and ensuring Tory continuity of power for the next four years. In other words Labour had an opening, and they blew it. So disheartening in this era of advancing far right wing.
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Fuck Jeremy Corbyn...he never gave a shit about Europe. He has been Anti-EU for decades.
i have European friends who have lost jobs because of this vote.
He is the most pathetic leader of the Labour party of all time....and i think he is a liar. Worst of all.
I cant beleive people are still defending him...he did a shitty job on this EU referendum..even in parliment he has the presence of a boring georgraphy teacher. He has no charisma.
He appeals to British Communists
You have to be out of your fucking mind to think this man is going to win the 2020 election and appeal to 68 Million people
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Aaaaaand Michael Gove's out.
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Two women fighting for the top..this is a first......in any democracy in the world.
Notice how the Guardian website has calmed down on the whole Brexit thing
They are both strong women, im indecisive.
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Seems a pretty easy decision to me, voting LibDem and hoping for an early general...
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Boris Johnson for foreign minister and David Davis for Brexit minister. Theresa May wasn't joking around when she said Brexit means Brexit.
Labour, on the other hand, still joking around.
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Things are moving so fast on a daily basis. Everyone is struggling to catch up.
Theresa May has been Anti-Europe for years. She now has a really strong Anti Europe cabinet behind her.
I acctually think she is the best person for this Brexit process.
She is stronger than David Cameron.
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I thought she was pro Remain???
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She has been anti EU for years...like most of the conservative party.
She only switched to remain because it was the status quo of the time.
i doubt she really believed it
She is adamant Brexit means Brexit.
the conservative party at its core is deeply anti-EU
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As is Jeremy Corbyn...
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corbyn didnt pull his weight but the ball was already rolling in the brexit direction due to labour's abandonement of the working classes and their concerns.
milliband lost scotland and lost the north east, the effete wealthy son of a full on marxist philosopher was a bigger factor than a guy who's been leader for about a year and already managed to hustle up half a million new supporters
new labour/blairites do NOT have a strategy other than muddle along into oblivion as they have been doing since Blair left. Corbyn has the ability to drum up support and crucially has always been critical of the eu - exactly like the voters who have deserted labour
they think someone like owen smith can win back the brexiting working class? a guy who basically insults both their judgement and their voice by calling for a second referendum?
I am frankly horrified at the fact brexit has happened but it is time to stop compromising and being a bunch of pussies about this, politics is heading towards the radical and populist, and corbyn is the only one who ticks the boxes.
he is not perfect but neither is he standing in anyone's way, until the plp/progress/middle class hand wringing tosspots can produce a leadership candidate who actually stands a chance, it is time to shut up, get behind the leader and mount an opposition to the sociopathic ideologists in the cabinet!
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I bet you 1 Trillion he will not win the 2020 election, i dont dislike him, i just dont think he is the right person to at the moment to lead the opposition.
He may change things, but he wont ever be elected.
Saying things like he would not shoot to kill Isis terrorists...shit like that...its not going to go down well.
I think he is distancing himself from the working class more than anything, 500.000 new labour members means jack shit, you need 12 Million votes to win an election.
I dont even see him being a Bernie Sanders type catalyst, Democratic socialism is new to America...we have heard this shit before from Michael Foot in the 1983 election look how that went.
I look at Jeremy Corbyn i just see Britain in 1976 or 1977 just the worst years.....
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