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I loved Year Zero when it was released - I hadn't listened to it much in the last few years. Listened to it again yesterday, and the record seems acutely relevant again, given the current global political climate.
In fact, the totalitarian narrative of YZ seem even less dubious nowadays than in 2007.
I understand that the odds are always against such things, of course, so here's hoping it stays that way, and 2017 is in no way 'Year Zero!'
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Capital G could easily be swapped out for Capital D OR Capital T.
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Perhaps Trent will deliver his Year Zero sequel in 2017. HBO should revive the series now.
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You mean as in dreed or treed?Originally Posted by buzburbank
Saul Williams fan.
Make Year Zero Relevant Again
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- Wait. Step into the light. How can this be ri-
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Yes, Capital G definitely stood for 'greed' and totally not the name of a specific person.
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Let's just say, I didn't wear my Survivalism shirt on election day expecting it to come true...
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It was obviously a double meaning at the time the album came out but there's no way "you know who" was President in Year Zero's story as it takes place in 2022 so in context it definitely had to mean Greed.
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Well yeah, but... It's not like Year Zero was strictly and exclusively telling a story of the world in 2022. It was clearly metaphorical for the state of the world at the time, in addition to how he thought it would be in 15 years. I don't doubt that it was meant to elicit thoughts of 'greed' in part, otherwise why not name it Capital B lol, but it seems disingenuous to say that it wasn't referring to Bush at all.
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I could have sworn that Trent said it wasn't about Bush.
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I tried to imagine how different letters would sound, frankly speaking, Capital G sounds most badass
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Eerily prophetic. it was supposed to be about 2017? and one of the plot points involved Scorsese's "Silence" which is out now, with Oscar buzz.
"God given" "survivalism" "capital g"
That gum you like is going to come back in style
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That album art of the wall dividing society between the rich and the poor really hits home now. Even if the wall never gets built, just knowing that so many people championed that idea is nothing short of disconcerting.
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Year Zero and the start of the Shadowrun (NoDAPL tie-in) are my current fictional narratives for navigating this spacetime.
Also... the "How Long" video.
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I've been thinking of trying to compile a live version of YZ. The album can feel very "straight" sequenced to me (if that makes sense) and some of the live renditions had more "depth" imho (the beginning of the end and meet your master were two of my live faves). I haven't even begun to try and audition multiple live takes. If anyone can recommend particular ones please do (or maybe I should just work off "a mix of all that ever was" then look at 2013 onwards )
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Wait, was that actually a shirt at some point or just a mockup? Because it's been a long damn time since I've bought a band shirt, but I would probably wear that.
Let's just say, I didn't wear my Survivalism shirt on election day expecting it to come true...
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Also: in light of the fact that the election may well have been decided by a combination of people being proud to be bigoted and being swayed by fake news on the internet and the spread of some damaging content via computer hacking, the chorus of Zero-Sum seems beyond appropriate.
Shame on us
Doomed from the start
May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts
Shame on us
For all we have done
And all we ever were
Just zeros and ones
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You can purchase it on the US store here: https://store.nin.com/collections/cl...stance-america
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Sold out. Of fucking course it is. Maybe for the better; assuming shipping wasn't free it would've been over $30 for a t-shirt.
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Year Zero has always felt relevant to me, even before all of the batshit insanity of the past couple years.
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Oddly enough, that's a shirt that's been on the site for quite a while (was made in 07/08, and has been available I believe at shows through the LITS tours, and then online at least off and on since then). It's one of the few non-tour shirts that has come out since 04 that I didn't own yet, but once the election bullshit started piling up, I placed my order.
I wouldn't be surprised if it popped up on eBay every once in awhile, there are quite a few NIN shirts that show up on there.
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Holy shit it's been TEN YEARS since this album was released! What happened?!
I would seriously lose my shit if he released a sequel this year. Definitely appropriate.
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I know it's a complete long shot but I am really hoping the NTAE "Physical Compnenet" has an easter egg leading back to year zero in some way. Even some of the songs on NTAE feel like they could be from the YZ universe as if they were indirectly related to the events of YZ. A side story. Not the actual events.
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I'm definitely wearing mine on January 20th.
Let's just say, I didn't wear my Survivalism shirt on election day expecting it to come true...
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Do we have any idea what time these ought to ship? Ordered mine same day as all the reissues.
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Oh, I don't know about new ones. I got mine in 2008.
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Ordered mine that day as well and I got the shipment notification email this past Friday.
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Trent made Year Zero, Obama won.
Trent didn't make Year Zero 2, Trump won.
Not pointing fingers, but hey.
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