Sexual Abuse/Assault in the News

[Erneuert]

Holy shit I'm so tired of trying to unpack Marilyn Manson's crazy psychotic buuuuuuullshit at this point... but this thing here, where a woman is alleging rape and death threats... she says she was shown a movie called "Groupie" where a woman is forced to drink piss at gunpoint or something?

So Manson's legal team is saying "well, that video was a crafted thing, all of it is acting" but that doesn't really change anything. If she THOUGHT it was real, and Manson lead her on to believe it was, that's part of some aggressive abusive insanity. Like "maybe you'll be in a 'movie' someday..." or "thrown in the bad girls room if you annoy me." I hate this person, and I'm so ashamed I ever gave him money.

I’m so glad I only ever saw him as a dopey clown (as Trent put it) and never gave him my time or interest. Ever.

[Magnetic]

I’m so glad I only ever saw him as a dopey clown (as Trent put it) and never gave him my time or interest. Ever.

I never got the appeal. I remember in 1994 when NIN came through on tour with MM, and it left one hell of an impression on people who hadn't seen/heard them before. The effect was fascinating. I gave POAF a listen and just wasn't impressed. My bf at the time pointedly noted, "two types of NIN fans - those who do and those who don't like MM."

/drift. Sorry.
I hope he rots somewhere for his crimes. I believe all of his accusers. The man is filth.

[Jinsai]

I never got the appeal. I remember in 1994 when NIN came through on tour with MM, and it left one hell of an impression on people who hadn't seen/heard them before. The effect was fascinating. I gave POAF a listen and just wasn't impressed. My bf at the time pointedly noted, "two types of NIN fans - those who do and those who don't like MM."

/drift. Sorry.
I hope he rots somewhere for his crimes. I believe all of his accusers. The man is filth.

Well, I guess I'm at a point where I would really like to say the same, but I even liked his last album. It messes with me to be honest...

Really, I already felt like I was "way too old to be listening to this angsty shlock rock bullshit" but that last album really kicked ass. I don't know enough to assign blame for why it was good. I'd like to think it's all Shooter Jennings... but isn't that just a cheap way out of admitting that I endorsed and supported a terrible person who has done awful, reprehensible things?

And it's not like I didn't know. I probably have heard more anecdotes about Manson than his most hardcore fans. I'm in some industry circles, and so I've heard some crazy shit. Maybe I just try to avoid things when it feels like "well, I can't verify this, and I don't want to contribute to rumor-mill bullshit... I don't know if it's true." But, really... the more I'm reading this stuff, I'm suspecting everything I've heard is completely 100% true. I had a friend tell me about this nazi shit and sexually "edgy" scenarios he'd rope people into observing, accompanied with anecdotes about crazy racist shit.

This isn't just someone who entertains crazy "out there" comedy-routine notions. He crossed a line and did them. And he thinks it's hilarious while he keeps getting away with it.

I remember reading something where he was talking about going to a comedy movie premier, and he said "I feel sorry for anyone who has to sit next to me when I laugh, because when I laugh, I punch the person nearest me."

And also, do we need to cross reference how many women have said that in mid intercourse he would start to bite them to the point where it was intolerable and "so painful?" I guess this is part of the thing... when you start to actually talk about how disgusting this is, it gets really disturbing... to the point where I really REALLY don't even wanna picture it or think about it.