David Bowie

**elevenism** · 01-19-2016, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by allegro

Already posted (#935)

And I used to be really into Kabbalah, but that's not anything to do with satan; it's more like mystic Jewish string theory. See also this.

Crowley's interpretation strayed a LOT from the Zohar.

@allegro , i'm familiar with Cabala. What i meant was that there are THOUSANDS of utterly ridiculous articles and videos floating around produced by p)eople who think that "lucifer runs the music industry," and ANYTHING other than evangelical christianity is satanism. i was saying that the article i linked wasn't one of those.

(sorry if i'm not expressing myself well here-i've got my 3 year old niece and a ninety pound bulldog vying for my attention

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i loved that article. i didn't know the meaning of Station to Station, for instance.

I certainly don't think bowie was any type of satanist, for the record. I just didn't realize how much mysticism had shaped his career.

**allegro** · 01-19-2016, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by elevenism

i'm familiar with Cabala.

I studied the Kabbalah. Not the Christian or Crowley ripoff versions.

But that article is specific about Station to Station being written while Bowie was ingesting only cocaine, milk, red peppers and nicotine to survive, and he barely even remembered writing any of it.

If you listen to his song lyrics for most of his career, you'll find a lot of references to mysticism, but once he really started into the coke @elevenism his weird obsession --> it all got really bad, it was pretty common knowledge in the '70s (which you would not know since you did not yet exist of course, heh). He moved to Berlin to get away from the drugs and to clean himself up. He joked (??) that before "Low," every time he blew his nose, some of his brains came out.

**elevenism** · 01-19-2016, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by allegro

I studied the Kabbalah. Not the Christian or Crowley ripoff versions.

But that article is specific about Station to Station being written while Bowie was ingesting only cocaine, milk and red peppers to survive, and barely even remembered writing any of it.

Sure enough.
I wish i would have studied the Kabbalah, and came very close to doing so. I was at a spiritual crossroads. I was sixteen years old. I literally had a stack of books on the Kabbalah and a stack of books on Celtic Magick.
But i was intimidated by the Hebrew and already had a beginner's knowledge of sympathetic magic, so i bought the Celtic books.
And i threw myself head first into Celtic Ritual Magick, which wound up being a decision i regret to this day. I opened strange doors that would never close again. ;P

At any rate, i do need to listen to STS again.

Edit: @allegro , i first heard bowie as a child, through my parents.
Then it was best of bowie.
And then Outside came out. That's when my true bowie obsession began.
I had Low and TMWSTW in high school, so it was those two, Outside, Earthling, Heathen, and the 98 best of bowie that i listened to nonstop.
I have all of his studio albums now of course, but i've yet to listen to all of them obsessively (which is why i was so hooked on Life on Mars last year.)
This is why i don't know all of the lyrics.
(and now i MUST stop typing, because it's hard with my 3 year old niece trying to prevent it.

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**allegro** · 01-19-2016, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by elevenism

At any rate, i do need to listen to STS again.

It's only referenced in the song, not the whole album.

And you can study English minimized versions of the Zohar. Like, for instance. It's more spiritual than mysticism.

**elevenism** · 01-19-2016, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by allegro

It's only referenced in the song, not the whole album.

And you can study English minimized versions of the Zohar. Like, for instance. It's more spiritual than mysticism.

thank you. i will order it today, unless you have a better suggestion.

**allegro** · 01-19-2016, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by elevenism

thank you. i will order it today, unless you have a better suggestion.

No, he is the most highly-recommended Rav (Hebrew for Rabbi) re the Zohar on Amazon. Actually, that one looks so good (and cheap, LOL) I ordered for myself.

It's a great starting point.

**orestes** · 01-19-2016, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by allegro

I studied the Kabbalah. Not the Christian or Crowley ripoff versions.

But that article is specific about Station to Station being written while Bowie was ingesting only cocaine, milk, red peppers and nicotine to survive, and he barely even remembered writing any of it.

If you listen to his song lyrics for most of his career, you'll find a lot of references to mysticism, but once he really started into the coke @elevenism his weird obsession --> it all got really bad, it was pretty common knowledge in the '70s (which you would not know since you did not yet exist of course, heh). He moved to Berlin to get away from the drugs and to clean himself up. He joked (??) that before "Low," every time he blew his nose, some of his brains came out.

Yeah, he moved to Berlin: the heroin capital.