Since 2012 will be the 20th anniversary of Broken, who thinks that Trent will release a special remastered edition of the album?
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Since 2012 will be the 20th anniversary of Broken, who thinks that Trent will release a special remastered edition of the album?
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He might, but he also might be sick or remastering by then. It's hard to say. I also know that a lot of time and effort was put into the recording of Broken. This is from NinWiki:
A warning about mono devices appears in the liner notes. Trent Reznor gave the following explanation for this warning:
"Regarding the warning for 'mono' devices... Without getting too far in detail, a scientific property of sound is its 'phase'. When recording music in stereo, you're supposed to be aware of its phase. If not, certain parts of the sound will disappear when it's played in mono. So, we discovered that by messing around with the phase, we could make elements of the music stand out rather oddly. (remember Q-sound? -it's based on the same type of principle) So...certain songs on 'broken' we mixed out of phase (because we felt like it) BUT... The songs don't sound right on mono devices (like some radios or TVs). Has anyone heard 'happiness in slavery' on the radio? I heard it on KROQ in LA and the snare drum was gone through most of the song. (and yes, it kind of destroys the groove!) So, basically, that's what that means."
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If Broken gets a DE/LE, it needs the movie on physical. Yes, I know we have the download, but a tangible items is always nicer, plus Trent could throw in commentary, anything behind the scenes, that kinda thing.
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I'll definitely get behind that.Originally Posted by sheepdean
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After all the grief that Interscope has given him, both during his stay on their label and with The Fragile DE, I wouldn't be surprised if a Broken re-release was pretty far from his mind.
Broken is a strange one too. There's not a whole lot there to expand upon. They could package it with Fixed and the movie, but most of us already have those. Unless Trent or someone else is sitting on some lost songs or some really interesting demos, I can't see a Broken re-release being as exciting as The Downward Spiral/The Fragile re-releases.
Josh Wink was on HLAH
Now I'm Nothing is the only original NIN song that has only been performed live, and was written in Broken era. If he's recorded it, it would belong there, so surely for that reason alone it'd be worth it?
And I don't see why the movie couldn't be in the package. Just slap an 18/R/Whatever country code on it, or give it the good old unrated sticker.
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I think I'd just settle for a 5.1 on that one. No way Universal would put the movie as part of the package. I'm okay with that, I like the idea of it remaining one of those weird things you can only find on the internet. Is it still on YouTube?
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Im sure it would be packaged with Fixed if it were to happen.
I'll just leave this here:
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I would definitely love for that to happen. I suppose that Broken and Fixed can fit into one CD anyway. (As for yet another "dream release" of mine in mind, I'd love to have it include "The Broken Movie" on DVD. But I suppose the copy of it that I have on my computer should suffice for now. I'm also just glad that Trent has considered doing just that as well. Broken deserves to be placed right up there with Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral.)Im sure it would be packaged with Fixed if it were to happen.
I'll just leave this here:
Last edited by Halo Infinity; 12-15-2011 at 05:56 PM.
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Unrelated, but I really dug that particular style the website had back then. It seemed as close to a visual counterpart to the music as anything else, to me.Im sure it would be packaged with Fixed if it were to happen.
I'll just leave this here:
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I believe he's already stated that Now I'm Nothing was never recorded in the studio. I'm sure there are some remixes that never made the cut. We know of the Butch Vig version of Last that we finally got, and I believe there are some alt versions of Coil's Gave Up remix (Young Americans movie), stands to reason there are others we don't know of. As for the movie, that would be cool but highly unlikely if it's any sort of official release with Interscope involved, I'm sure no record executive or lawyer will let him officially release that.
Also, if they're making prototype merch for it (Rob posted a Broken shirt a while ago to his instagram feed, plus the recent auctions), then perhaps it's something that's in the works.
Josh Wink was on HLAH
See, I thought that too, but I have no source for it whatsoever. It might be a fan rumour, created to explain the lack of release?
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At this point, I'm sure he could whip out a recording of that song in a matter of hours if he wanted to. The fact that no resemblance of a recording has been hinted at or popped up anywhere makes me think it's never gonna happen. Maybe a re-release of Broken might make he want to, but I can't imagine him actually recording a song from that time in his life. I think he's pretty done with that music.
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I would absolutely love a studio recording of Now Im Nothing!
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Oh god, this is my number one NIN wish.
To be honest though, I don't think it would have the same effect with a 40 year old TR.
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It'd be nice but doubt it.
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god Fixed is awful.
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Ha Ha, my thoughts exactly! The only one single NIN output which I listened to once and never EVER again!
Still got about a thousand copies of it though...
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Are you a fan of any of the remix albums? I think Fixed stacks up well alongside Further... or TFA. IMHO y34rz3r0r3mix3d is the best.
I'd never noticed it was a different (audio) take. You live and learn…
He's either singing backing vocals, or pretending to do that, too.
Last edited by jmtd; 12-21-2011 at 04:20 AM.
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he's definitely actually singing backups, but he's not actually playing guitar. i read it somewhere, but i can't remember where. maybe in "long hard road out of hell"...
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Yeah, it was in the "interview" segment:
He said, "Why don't you come out? We're shooting a video for one of my songs, and I want you to play guitar in it."
I told him, "Well, I don't really play guitar." But I went out there anyway and pretended to play guitar in a video that was never actually released. It was a song called "Gave Up".
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At least it isn't a tattoo hahahahaha!!
Love the grooving Happiness in Slavery remix on Broken. The rest of it, well, I have to be in the right kind of mood.
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LMAO. True.
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I love Fixed. The coil remix of Gave Up is bananas!
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Broken is one of those albums that I truly love, and I cant put my finger on why.
It just makes me happy to listen to it, and makes me drive well over the speed limit too.
Id love to hear a remastered retinkered version.
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Was the studio video version of Gave Up ever officially released? I'd take high quality audio of that, please.
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I've always listened to Broken via really good headphones. Yeah, I guess I really do wish I had a 5.1 Surround version.
Last edited by allegro; 12-16-2011 at 11:20 PM.
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Remasters are basically pointless if the album is still in wide circulation through printing.
You have to think about it from that perspective. Originally, most remasters were of albums that were hard to find or were not in print anymore. Those old Polydor remasters of the Cream/Eric Clapton and James Brown records were proof of this since many of those had not been issued on CD at the time.
While The Downward Spiral reissue was wonderful, I don't see the point in constantly remastering everything since they are still available on CD and not extremely hard to find. It's not like those great albums from the 60's that never made it onto CD when the manufacturing took off.
And as for sound quality, the original Broken disc still sounds wonderful. I hate the super loud remasters. The 2009 UMe Rolling Stones reissues are a great example that louder don't always mean better. When the remasters are made extremely loud, it tends to drown out so many of the layers of instrumentation and it sounds like a cluttered mess. The only time it tends to work are acoustic numbers, but when guitars or organs are drowning everything out (like on I Got The Blues on the 2009 Sticky Fingers reissue) it's hard to get passed. But then again I'm just rambling on for the fuck of it, cause The Downward Spiral remaster didn't have any of these problems, which proves you can remaster albums nicely without making them super loud.
Another thing I hate about remasters is the pricing. Look at those recent Beatles reissues and tell me you want to spend 13-15 dollars on the same fucking album you already own, just because it has a fancy digipak and new artwork. The Beatles reissues didn't even have bonus tracks or anything that would have made them worth spending double the price of the old Capitol CD's that are very cheap online (used of course, but who the fuck cares?). They do sound great, but then again so do the old CD's, which is a pointless excuse.
I doubt this would happen but I would love to see Broken and Fixed reissued together as a double disc. They are two of my favorite albums of the 90's and if they were put together in one package, I would totally waste 15+ dollars on it cause those albums are timeless and have withstood the test of time.
Last edited by Tony Gordon; 05-10-2014 at 02:11 PM.
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I'd inevitably feel the same exact way about it. And if an official DVD for Broken was included, that would also be a dream come true.
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