Lord of The Rings - New Amazon Series

[Sutekh]

The Hobbit doesn't need to be three movies. Part of what makes the story great is how direct and simple it is. It could have worked as a single film.

The third one will be a bridge between hob and lotr, so don't worry about it being dragged out too much. How many pages is the hobbit? Haven't read it since the 90s but remember 1 page = roughly 1 minute screenplay. I think seeing as they want to segue this with the lotr trilogy, it will have lots of material to that end that ddn't feature in the hobbit book.

Also orestes I would have to check but I would have thought multiple units would have been assigned to a titanic edit job (which was also against the clock) such as lotr - they definitely shot it that way (jackson was not present for a lot of the shooting, with 2nd 3rd etc units delegated to shoots under strict instructions). If not then I am truly astounded at his abillity

[Jinsai]

The third one will be a bridge between hob and lotr, so don't worry about it being dragged out too much. How many pages is the hobbit? Haven't read it since the 90s but remember 1 page = roughly 1 minute screenplay. I think seeing as they want to segue this with the lotr trilogy, it will have lots of material to that end that ddn't feature in the hobbit book.

My copy is 317 pages, but that's with large print and occasional illustrations.

I understand that he's pulling from the LotR appendices to expand the story and bridge the two. I wouldn't have seen that as necessary, but maybe it'll work. I like Peter Jackson's LotR movies, but I've felt they occasionally dragged and sometimes wallowed in unnecessary melodrama. The Hobbit could have worked if it had been a somewhat less ponderous and serious entry, and took a more direct and simple approach to the story (like the book).

Who knows though. I have faith in Peter Jackson... even if The Lovely Bones was a horrible movie.

[Sutekh]

My copy is 317 pages, but that's with large print and occasional illustrations.

I understand that he's pulling from the LotR appendices to expand the story and bridge the two. I wouldn't have seen that as necessary, but maybe it'll work. I like Peter Jackson's LotR movies, but I've felt they occasionally dragged and sometimes wallowed in unnecessary melodrama. The Hobbit could have worked if it had been a somewhat less ponderous and serious entry, and took a more direct and simple approach to the story (like the book).

Who knows though. I have faith in Peter Jackson... even if The Lovely Bones was a horrible movie.

There is a maybe element... Lovely bones was bad (ditto frighteners)... A lot of tolkien nuts I know hate the films like most people hate the star wars prequels. Personally I loved them, I think if they take the same editorial approach (ie less songs), we will all live happily ever after.

No appropriate juncture has arisen, so may I just say - bad taste and braindead were bloody great. The trilogy and those are the reasons the benefit of the doubt I extend to PJ is endless

[eversonpoe]

There is a maybe element... Lovely bones was bad (ditto frighteners)... A lot of tolkien nuts I know hate the films like most people hate the star wars prequels. Personally I loved them, I think if they take the same editorial approach (ie less songs), we will all live happily ever after.

No appropriate juncture has arisen, so may I just say - bad taste and braindead were bloody great. The trilogy and those are the reasons the benefit of the doubt I extend to PJ is endless

maybe it's just because of how old i was when i first saw it, but i love the frighteners. it was one of the first really scary things that also made me laugh.

anyway, my girlfriend (who is a huge tolkien nut) is SO EXCITED that they're actually including some of the songs in this. she said that was one of her main disappointments with the LOTR trilogy, because it's such a fun and interesting part of the books.

[kdrcraig]

anyway, my girlfriend (who is a huge tolkien nut) is SO EXCITED that they're actually including some of the songs in this. she said that was one of her main disappointments with the LOTR trilogy, because it's such a fun and interesting part of the books.

I liked that they left out the songs, I skip them any time I re-read the series now. It makes more sense to have them in this movie, I've always considered the book a lot more lighthearted than LOTR even though some serious shit happens in it. I've been reading a lot of theories on how they could split up the movies and what having 3 movies will allow them to do and I'm feeling a little better about it, but still I think 2 movies would've been perfect.

[littlemonkey613]

... A lot of tolkien nuts I know hate the films like most people hate the star wars prequels.

WHA? Ok no really any LOTR fan that hates these films needs to get slapped upside the head. How can you not stand back and appreciate what was accomplished with these movies? They should have a Jackson alter. Are they aware of what usually happens with adaptations? Ugh.

[orestes]

Also orestes I would have to check but I would have thought multiple units would have been assigned to a titanic edit job (which was also against the clock) such as lotr - they definitely shot it that way (jackson was not present for a lot of the shooting, with 2nd 3rd etc units delegated to shoots under strict instructions). If not then I am truly astounded at his abillity

Nope, it was just Peter Jackson and Jaimie Selkirk. The reason Jackson didn't get to view the film in its entirety before the premiere was due to time.

[Alexandros]

The third one will be a bridge between hob and lotr, so don't worry about it being dragged out too much.

I think this has been debunked by Peter Jackson himself. It seems he's not going to add new material, but rather use much more of the already shot material, plus some few additions maybe, and also change the breaking points of the films. However it happens, the official word at this point is that the tale of the Hobbit (plus all the White Council and Dol Guldur bits) will be dragged on for three movies. There won't be a bridge movie.

At this point, I'm very apprehensive about it. If not a money grab, it seems at least like self-indulgence. Three movies is just too much for the Hobbit, even with all the extra bits. I hope I'm mistaken.