Controversial Nine Inch Nails opinions

[InvitingmeAway]

IMO Reptile is amazing

[ComradeCornhole]

Where is Everybody? > 2/3 of The Fragile. And while we're on the subject, I frequently skip Please. Also, as previously stated, Deep is awesome. I love Zoo Station. I think TR's best look is YZ-Wave Goodbye. I would be THRILLED if With Teeth (the song) were thrown back into set lists. Come to think of it, add several WT songs. And finally (for now), I rarely think about, or listen to, because I'm not particularly touched by: And All That Could Have Been.

[Halo Infinity]

I don't know how controversial these opinions are, but I thought I'd give it a shot.

1. I like both the Left and the Right discs of The Fragile equally. As much as I love Somewhat Damaged, The Day The World Went Away, The Wretched, We're In This Together, The Fragile, Just Like You Imagined, and Pilgrimage, I also loved The Way Out Is Though, Into The Void, Where Is Everybody?, Starfuckers, Inc., I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally, and Ripe (With Decay).

2. I used to love Underneath It All, but I barely listen to it now. It's probably my least favorite track on the Right disc.

3. Starfuckers, Inc. is actually one of my most favorite songs from the Right disc as mentioned in number 1.

4. I also mentioned this in NIN.com as well: I sometimes find myself liking With Teeth more than Year Zero, Ghosts I-IV, and The Slip, but that also depends on my mood.

5. Ghosts I-IV would have to be by far my least favorite NIN album. (I'm also not saying it's a bad album either, now that would've been really controversial, as I really do have some favorite tracks from both Ghosts I-II and Ghosts III-IV.)

6. Everything easily became my latest favorite NIN song.

[Wolfkiller]

Third time is a charm...
Not only is Deep great, but so is the video. Come at me.
Closer is amazing even if it is overplayed.
PHM is awesome and I find nothing embarrassing about it.
Trent should have married Tori instead to prevent her from sucking later in her career.

[hani]

Trent should have married Tori instead to prevent her from sucking later in her career.

quick question (will spark some controversy too, I guess)

who's Tori

[binaryhermit]

quick question (will spark some controversy too, I guess)

who's Tori

I think this refers to Tori Amos.

[chroipahtz]

who's Tori

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tori_amos

[RGM81]

So much bravery here.

Here's mine - I've never been a fan of Piggy live, and I hope it gets some vacation time during Tension. Also, let Robin play guitar more often.

[Hitman2110]

So much bravery here.

Here's mine - I've never been a fan of Piggy live, and I hope it gets some vacation time during Tension. Also, let Robin play guitar more often.

While not a comment about live performances, I will say this:

Piggy (Nothing Can Stop Me Now) > Piggy

Not sure if that's really controversial though (kinda doubt it).

[hani]

she was involved with TR? didn't know

[eversonpoe]

she was involved with TR? didn't know

yeah, around 94. that's part of why trent does vocals on her song "past the mission"

[Amaro]

HM will at least beat out YZ, GH, TS, and even WT for me. In one throw.

This is a somewhat unfounded opinion, but an opinion nonetheless. Real controversial talk.

[chroipahtz]

Trent did write his best music while he was deep in the throes of drug addiction. That said, I don't think it had anything to do with his drug addiction. He was a tortured artist, spending years and years on one release, presumably slaving over it in the studio every day, trying to get little pieces perfect. I just wish he would do that again. I imagine With Teeth took some time (due to the scrapped Bleedthrough concept), but every bit of work since has been much more quickly done. I just want him to be that perfectionist again.

[ComradeCornhole]

Trent did write his best music while he was deep in the throes of drug addiction. That said, I don't think it had anything to do with his drug addiction. He was a tortured artist, spending years and years on one release, presumably slaving over it in the studio every day, trying to get little pieces perfect. I just wish he would do that again. I imagine With Teeth took some time (due to the scrapped Bleedthrough concept), but every bit of work since has been much more quickly done. I just want him to be that perfectionist again.

This... is within the realm of possibility. I've had a similar feeling that along with the drugs came insecurity and paranoia that his music wasn't going to be good enough. Couple that with the imposed media pressure of "saving rock music", and you have a recipe for some really groundbreaking tunes. Of course, this was almost at the expense of TR's sanity. After sobriety, there was confidence and relaxation that lead to making music with joy and, importantly, without much in the way of pressure or expectations (at least not any he cared about). This may have led to TR being a little more... lax in is standards, shall we say? Or if that doesn't seem quite right, maybe we could call it a confidence that anything he put together was worth hearing.

[chroipahtz]

This... is within the realm of possibility. I've had a similar feeling that along with the drugs came insecurity and paranoia that his music wasn't going to be good enough. Couple that with the imposed media pressure of "saving rock music", and you have a recipe for some really groundbreaking tunes. Of course, this was almost at the expense of TR's sanity. After sobriety, there was confidence and relaxation that lead to making music with joy and, importantly, without much in the way of pressure or expectations (at least not any he cared about). This may have led to TR being a little more... lax in is standards, shall we say? Or if that doesn't seem quite right, maybe we could call it a confidence that anything he put together was worth hearing.

I'm sure it's just that it's been healthier for him to not obsess over the material and just let it flow out. But hey, we haven't had a painstaking effort since The Fragile, and I miss that stuff. It was so nuanced and weird.

[nowimnothing]

Controversial thoughts:

1. Fuck The Perfect Drug. It was, and still is - shit. I could give two fucks if they ever play it live. The remixes were more interesting than the original.
2. PHM is ridiculously dated. The remaster made it less so - but nonetheless, none of the songs from PHM should ever be played live again.
3. Survivalism and THTF are so shitty that are almost funny. The first half of With Teeth was absolutely terrible - I can only listen to the last half these days.
4. I listen to The Slip regularly from start to finish. Great album. Maybe I am still hard that he gave it away for free.
5. Half of Ghosts is fantastic. The other, more percussion based and aggressive tracks do not fit at all - and I really dislike them.
6. TR's scores are better than post Fragile albums by a fucking mile.

[Christo]

Controversial thoughts:

1. Fuck The Perfect Drug. It was, and still is - shit. I could give two fucks if they ever play it live. The remixes were more interesting than the original.
2. PHM is ridiculously dated. The remaster made it less so - but nonetheless, none of the songs from PHM should ever be played live again.
3. Survivalism and THTF are so shitty that are almost funny. The first half of With Teeth was absolutely terrible - I can only listen to the last half these days.
4. I listen to The Slip regularly from start to finish. Great album. Maybe I am still hard that he gave it away for free.
5. Half of Ghosts is fantastic. The other, more percussion based and aggressive tracks do not fit at all - and I really dislike them.
6. TR's scores are better than post Fragile albums by a fucking mile.

Your opinions are null and void because you like The Slip

[Transfixed]

I guess this is controversial...?

I think Beside You In Time might be my favorite NIN track of all time. Something about where I was in life when it came out, and that it was SO unexpected, and just so hypnotic and kinda ballsy... plus the lyrics, and that EXPLOSION of energy at the end, it just hits me every time. Greatest. Ever. And I'm a massive NIN fan since the early 90's, for what it's worth.

[Copy of A]

I guess this is controversial...?

I think Beside You In Time might be my favorite NIN track of all time. Something about where I was in life when it came out, and that it was SO unexpected, and just so hypnotic and kinda ballsy... plus the lyrics, and that EXPLOSION of energy at the end, it just hits me every time. Greatest. Ever. And I'm a massive NIN fan since the early 90's, for what it's worth.

I agree man, I love that song

[ZeroisGreg]

I agree man, I love that song

When I first heard a teaser of this track for With teetha, it pumped me up. I thought 'Man! that kicks all ass'. Then I heard the full track and really wanted it to be longer with a build-up, break, then build up again.

[Inkë]

I dream of a setlist with songs only picked from Year Zero, The Slip and Hesitation Marks. The show ends with The Day The World Went Away.

[ninsp]

Most of With Teeth is shit except for the last four/five or so songs.
Year Zero is a modern masterpiece that I put up there with TDS and The Fragile.
A lot of Pretty Hate Machine is fucking terrible.
Gave Up is a sucky song.

[pigpen]

I think people would be as bored with a TDS or TF sounding record as TR would be making one.
I find PHM to be a more compelling record than YZ.
YZ would be an awful television show and I'm glad it's not happening.
Both The Social Network and TGWTDT OST's are boring and do not compete with anything TR has put out under NIN.
Ghosts is an unfocused mess of a record/experiment.
Closer, for as many times as I've heard it, within the context of TDS is still a fucking amazing song and I never EVER skip it.

[dlb]

YZ would be an awful television show and I'm glad it's not happening.

thank god, yes! Let it die already! No YZ2, no ARG anymore and no television show!

And I agree with pretty much everything else you said, only that I rocked the shit out of the SN soundtrack. Dragon tattoo on the other hand... the only cool tracks were solely used for trailers and immigrant song is too short.

[howdidislipinto]

That's What I Get is probably in my top 10 NIN songs. Maybe my top 5.

[bigbadjesus]

I think the real reason Trent and Brian Warner/Marilyn Manson had a falling out is because Trent propositioned Brian for gay sex, or possibly vice versa, and the other wasn't up for it.

[tw3rbz]

There is not a single song I skip when listening to ANY nine inch nails album except Ripe(with decay) And year zero is my fav. The concept, the ARG, everything about it is amazing.

[jesus]

Everything is the best NIN track of the last 4 albums

[Krazy]

Everything is the best NIN track of the last 4 albums

Jesus- get back to work. And quit trolling Internet forums!!

[jesus]

Jesus- get back to work. And quit trolling Internet forums!!

LOL Is my opinion over-controversial , even considered Trolling?