Wait, "C-market Sioux falls" actually got THAT show traveling through town?? Daaaamn. Lucky! That's one for the books.Originally Posted by SM Rollinger
The Virus Inside
Wait, "C-market Sioux falls" actually got THAT show traveling through town?? Daaaamn. Lucky! That's one for the books.
xScott
Fuck yeah. I've gotten lucky over the last few months, Satan has sent his messangers to my hometown. Manson/Zombie, Ghost and Slayer all since July! (too bad Manson was utter shite...)
Active Member
Keep it up and i'll label it a D market!!!!!
xScott
As usual, dl link for lossless files is pinned in the comments. Like everything else I have taped in this venue, the sound on this recording turned out perfect. FOB like I usually do, and the crowd behaved themselves too, so no screamers or other idiots. Enjoy.
Banned
Is the Ministry 7 CD Trax Box worth it (bear in mind I don't care for RevCo)....Are those demos and unreleased songs from the With Sympathy/Twitch era good or are they just instrumentals/rough mixes?
Active Member
I felt it was worth it, the demos sound like demos (including background hiss sometimes) but certainly aren't bad.
Resident Asshole
just download it
Throbbing Member
It's not everyone's cup of tea, but I feel that's Ministry's best era of work, so definitely worth it if you love that material. The demos and unreleased songs are fantastic and are just as good if not better than the songs on With Sympathy and Twitch. They are fully realized songs, and apart from some tape hiss, they sound like studio quality tracks.
They've reissued that box set, and last time I checked it's $50, not bad for the amount of content, plus the cool 12" record and book it comes with.
Banned
With Sympathy-Twitch era is my fav Ministry era for sure....Going to order this from Amazon...One can dream of the day Trent releases a 7 album box set of early NIN demos/alt mixes/unreleased songs
Throbbing Member
My wallet will be ready when that day arrives.
xScott
Have any of the live backing videos ever surfaced online? Specifically the old one for N.W.O. with the riots and the dude with all the telephones and the religious symbols? The old one was much better than the current one.
(Like some of the skinny puppy and that fragility background videos available online)
xScott
I know this got shut down in the RHCP thread, but I wasn't familiar circumstances surrounding with River Phoenix's death, and upon some research, i noticed on his Wikipedia page this...
Can't say I've ever heard Al being involved with this. Is this factual or just someone making shit up? (cuz that never happens on the internet)On the evening of October 30, 1993, Phoenix was to perform with the band P which featured his good friends Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, actor Johnny Depp, Gibby Haynes of the Butthole Surfers along with Al Jourgensen of Ministry at The Viper Room, a Hollywood nightclub partly owned at the time by Depp.
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From the horse's mouth...
xScott
Thanks
Banned
I think Al was just hanging out that night. Don't think he was involved in the shenanigans. Based on the stuff I have read it sounds like half of young Hollywood was at the Viper Room that night (Christina Applegate, Keanu Reeves, etc etc) Viper Room in the early/mid 90s...Where the cool kids hang out....
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Way to go Colombo!
Flaccid Member
I decided to mashup I Wanted To Tell Her with Thieves because of course I did:
Stubby Member
Ministry just posted dates for summer tour with KMFDM and Front Line Assembly.
xScott
07/01 Seattle, WA – The Showbox Sodo
07/02 Portland, OR – Roseland Theater
07/03 Missoula, MT – Wilma Theatre
07/05 Denver, CO – Ogden Theatre
07/07 Minneapolis, MN – First Avenue
07/09 Pittsburgh, PA – Stage AE
07/10 Detroit, MI – Royal Oak Music Theatre
07/11 Chicago, IL – Riviera Theatre
07/12 Niagara Falls, NY – Rapids Theatre
07/13 Cleveland, OH – Agora Theatre
07/15 Boston, MA – House of Blues
07/16 Huntington, NY – The Paramount
07/17 Montclair, NJ – The Wellmont
07/18 Philadelphia, PA – Franklin Music Hall
07/19 Baltimore, MD – Baltimore Soundstage
07/21 Atlanta, GA – Tabernacle
07/22 Orlando, FL – Hard Rock Live
07/24 Houston, TX – House of Blues
07/25 Dallas, TX – Gas Monkey Live!
07/26 San Antonio, TX – Aztec Theater
07/28 Albuquerque, NM – Sunshine Theater
07/29 Phoenix, AZ – The Van Buren
07/30 San Diego, CA – House of Blues
07/31 Anaheim, CA – House of Blues
08/01 San Francisco, CA – The Regency Ballroom
First Avenue? They opened for Culture Club there in 83 and there is a circulated in house video feed from the With Sympathy tour that was from there too. Fukk yeah!!! I haven't been to the cities since NIN '13 either, and the last time I was at this venue was Mastodon in the mid 00s and made the mistake of dropping 2 hits of acid and had a TERRIBLE time.
Sorry for the rambling
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Last edited by imail724; 01-13-2020 at 02:42 PM.
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This is a 30 year celebration tour of A Mind Is...
Nothing explicitly says they are playing the whole record or anything, but I'd imagine it will be the focus of the setlist.
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Fingers crossed, but didn't they do a tour 2 years ago in celebration of 30 years of LORAH, but they still just played the new stuff with a few extra LORAH songs at the end? But I'm optimistic after last year's tours where they only played stuff from 92 and earlierand the fact that Chris is back.
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xScott
I just want to hear Burning Inside! They dint play it when there were here with Slayer last month
The Virus Inside
What a fucking show man... And not a single fuckin' Canada date. I am so cheesed. Man. We get the shaft on EVERYTHING!
Starting to hate this country. If I could pack my bags and join ya'll in the USA, I would. You guys get it all.
This Canada thing is a joke. Pure joke. All we have is snow and 2 million dollar 500 sq ft 1 bedroom condos. Fuck this place.
Unintelligible Whispering
I just came home to see this and my spirits soared for like 5 seconds before crashing to earth.
Not even fucking Toronto? Jesus. What is happening lately?
Dis-member
This is just me speculating, but I’d imagine going through customs and an possibly traveling internationally is a pain in the ass for doing paperwork and taxes and what not. Maybe someone in the industry like @theimage13 can provide some insight.
The Virus Inside
I donno about that, because canada still gets the odd date attached to a US tour. But it's mainly been garbage pop acts that will tack on the odd Toronto or vancouver date. It just seems like we keep consistently getting the shaft. I mean, NIN skipped us on CB+I as well. I understand not coming out west, but the absence of even a Toronto date is concerning and unheard of.
I know that Sascha of KMFDM hates coming to Canada because he said the boarder always treats him like shit. Plus, the last time they were in Toronto the promoter stiffed them of their pay, so I'm sure those play a picture as to why he doesn't come here anymore, but this is Ministry's tour by the looks of it, and kmfdm are just guests. Doubt kmfdm have control over where they go on this one.
I mean, matchbox 20 and wallflowers are coming. Yay...
/sarcasm
Just seems like anything in the goth/metal/industrial scene doesn't come up here anymore for whatever reason that is. Or at least they're coming here less and less and less.
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That could be it, or it could be part of the story at least. It is expensive and time-consuming to get through customs just once if you have any previous convictions for something as "minor" as a DUI. It can be done, and it often is (as should be obvious by the number of tours that cross the border). But sometimes it may be prohibitively expensive, or you may have someone within the band even who just says "you know what, fuck that, we're not going through the hassle just for one fuckin' show".
Typical border crossing goes something like this: your bus pulls up to the border, usually at a painfully early hour of the morning after having finished your last show. If everyone on the bus has a squeaky-clean record, there's a small chance that an agent will board, match up passports with faces, and let you head on through. More often, it's "everyone off the bus," you each speak with an agent individually, and if you're clean it's still nothing more than your basic "any weapons, massive piles of cash, etc", then as soon as a cursory drug / weapons sweep of the bus is done, you're back on and heading to the next city. But if there is even ONE person on your bus who's got a prior conviction, it gets more complicated. You basically carry a letter that says "people who cost lots of money have made sure that I'm legally allowed to come in here even though I've been arrested for something". Sometimes they read your letter, have a quick chat with you, and let you go. Sometimes it takes an hour or more. In one instance, we almost missed a show because a carpenter had the same name (down to the middle initial) and hometown as someone wanted for aggravated assault and they held him (and thus, the rest of the bus) for six or seven hours.
So with that in mind, think about the history of people in a band like Ministry, as well as probably some of the people who work for them. If there's not a major demand for multiple Canadian shows that can all be done in two crossings (one in, one out), there is a very good chance that they could do the shows, but just don't want to deal with the hassle. This is, of course, merely speculation.
Stubby Member
Looks like I'll be seeing Ministry at the HOB Anaheim again.
Dis-member
DAMN! This is one good nostalgia trip- seen Ministry a couple times and KMFDM a few, and never left disappointed. FLA to boot!
Don’t think I’ll be able to make a show but have fun to those who can. Fuck.
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