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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    But Miles is already in the Spider-Man movies, and this timeline.



    The nephew mentioned in the clip is Miles. Also...what if Miles wasn't snapped and he's now five years older?
    Yes, that’s right, I forgot about that. But my point still stands that they could do a lot with that if they wanted to. Also, you bring up a great point that I hadn’t thought of regarding Miles being the appropriate age post snap.

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    Hell, what if one of the "pre Thanos" movies they're talking about is Miles taking over after Peter died and what all happened in those five years?

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    In the mood involving this releasing, I decided to buy a physical copy of The Infinity Gauntlet graphic novel from 1991. Shall be good.

    I have been buying the remaining films I need. I now am only missing Captain Marvel and Avengers: End Game. Of course that's because of the fact they were just released in theaters with no blu-ray releases yet.

    In time.....

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    Could a multiverse actually be an excuse to icebox Spiderman now that the deal has resolved?

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    lol, I was just thinking this morning that the rumor said they had Spider-Man for five Marvel movies: Civil War, Homecoming, Infinity War, Endgame, and now FFH. Sony are idiots and will screw up the renegotiation somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    lol, I was just thinking this morning that the rumor said they had Spider-Man for five Marvel movies: Civil War, Homecoming, Infinity War, Endgame, and now FFH. Sony are idiots and will screw up the renegotiation somehow.
    Tom Holland let it slip himself in an interview that he's at least doing a third Spider-Man, so it'll for sure be six films. Unless Sony is smart for once and they renegotiate for more movies like they should. The could say that the Sony Marvel Universe is another universe and that's why the characters don't exist in the MCU. Or that it's a different Spider-Man in that universe even though he still looks like Tom Holland? I don't know...

    Quote Originally Posted by dlb View Post
    I'm really curious how much of his script for GoG3 James Gunn has to adjust after Engame or if he was still in the know about what happened. Has anyone read anything about it admist the Disney/DC/re-hire turmoil?
    I would assume he knew about it because he's credited an executive producer on both Infinity War and Endgame, which were shot back-to-back.

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    I'm really curious how much of his script for GoG3 James Gunn has to adjust after Engame or if he was still in the know about what happened. Has anyone read anything about it admist the Disney/DC/re-hire turmoil?

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    They released a snippet of the scene where Peter and Mysterio meets:


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    What if Nick Fury and what's her name - or at least one version of them - is a projection from Mysterio as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    What if Nick Fury and what's her name - or at least one version of them - is a projection from Mysterio as well?
    It's Robin Scherbatsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    What if Nick Fury and what's her name - or at least one version of them - is a projection from Mysterio as well?
    ding ding ding

    only issue with that is how did Mysterio figure out Spiderman's secret identity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    ding ding ding

    only issue with that is how did Mysterio figure out Spiderman's secret identity?
    well from the trailer it almost appears that everyone knows who he is. Which goes against the basic tenant from Spider-Verse: "You've gotta hide your face, no one can know who you are."

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    Been an...eventful few weeks so not been active on here. Really digging the new Spider-man trailer! What does it all mean?...well i could go off on one about where it might go, but i think i'm just going to wait for the film and let it surprise me. But i am really excited to see where this leads!

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    Yay! Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is back!

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    <rant>
    So, I love the MCU. LOVE. IT. Even many of the movies most people have hated on like Iron Man 2 and Age of Ultron. I haven't been enthralled with EVERY movie (Incredible Hulk and Thor: The Dark World were kinda forgettable despite some fun scenes), but for the most part, I've enjoyed nearly every installment. BUT I tried to watch Agents of SHIELD and I thought it was just plain awful. I made it through like 3, maybe 3.5 episodes and thought it was painfully low-budget with poor acting and generic human characters that I don't give a shit about. Maybe it gets better later on, I don't know, but I couldn't do it. I know Netflix's decision was almost certainly for business reasons *cough Disney+ cough*, but I still cannot believe that Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and The Punisher (I wasn't as fond of Luke Cage or Iron Fist, but even they had their moments) got cancelled while Agents of SHIELD is still going. I also think Phil Coulson should have stayed dead because it robs his death scene in Avengers of it's emotional impact. So, I don't consider it part of the MCU myself (let's be real, the movies don't either!). The only thing that's made me want to give it another shot it is Ghost Rider, but learning that they went with some other version of the character that drives a car instead of the motorcycle killed my enthusiasm for that, too. Maybe I've been missing something, but I'm astounded every time they renew that show for another season. Just my 2¢...
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    SHIELD isn't fantastic, but its good/above average. It definitely got waaaaayyy better after those few episodes you watched. Totally agree the show started off really bad. They improved it greatly from season to season. Give it another shot if you're a big MCU fan. Can't see if being appealing to anyone who isn't an MCU diehard though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    Give it another shot if you're a big MCU fan. Can't see if being appealing to anyone who isn't an MCU diehard though.
    Not only give it another shot but I don't think you need to be a diehard at all to enjoy it. Sure, it starts off the way it starts, but I see it as starting a new comic (and one of the things I really like about the show is how they seem to strive to shoot scenes as if viewing as a comic panel). For me, I'd say about the first half of S1 isn't smooth sailing... but from there until S5, there's a hell of a ride (pun intended). S5 changes the pace a lot but still solid and now we're a year later into S6 and it drives a truck through E1 (in a good way). If you want a series to tie more into the movies, no... no you won't get that... but you will get explore the legacy set up by Captain America: The First Avenger (maybe watch Agent Carter first, but the One Shot last and series first, at least, that's how it makes sense in my head), then Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. will do that very nicely.

    Caveat, aside from NIN, the MCU is pretty much the only fandom I follow (so that Captain Marvel t-shirt was a no-brainer). I've watched all the shows (and the Marvel Knights animated comic stuff I can get my hands on, but weirdly not the Sony or Fox animated series) and while they aren't always what I totally enjoy (I'm looking at you The "We're the GOOD Von Struckers" Gifted), I do like the majority of them (an AoS/Inhumans crossover would have been great but I suspect if you aren't the type of fan who likes Thor and Thor 2, Inhumans won't appeal that much).

    But yeah, get through the first half of S1 and then buckle up...

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    OK so i was with a friend to watch Detective Pikachu Saturday and we came up with a theory for the new Spider-man...and i'm going to put it in spoilers because there is a 'chance' it could happen, and it would be AWESOME!

    Spoiler: So the trailer revealed the multiverse, which i still kinds think might be a red herring from our sneeky friend Mystrio, but if it is true what if...what if at the end Spidey get's some help from another verse, and what if that help was Tobey Fucking Maguire! Imagine how fucking awesome that would be, even if just for a scene, a few minutes...to pass the spidey mental (kinda like in Spider-verse) also WE NEED SPIDER-GWEN IN LIVE ACTION MARVEL, DO IT MARVEL!

    Anyway it probably won't happen, but it would be amazing if it did!

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    saw avengers today. quite good but too f'n long. will watch again when the 4K comes out.

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    Wait... whatthefuck... we're getting Jessica Jones S3?

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    @MrLobster Yeah, this is the very last season of Marvel/Netflix shows. It's been known for a while that The Punisher and Jessica Jones would be the last two things to come of their collaboration. It's just that this is coming out so far after the announcement that all of the shows were cancelled that it almost seems like they've renegotiated a new deal or something, which is unfortunately not the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    Yeah, this is the very last season of Marvel/Netflix shows. It's been known for a while that The Punisher and Jessica Jones would be the last two things to come of their collaboration. It's just that this is coming out so far after the announcement that all of the shows were cancelled that it almost seems like they've renegotiated a new deal or something, which is unfortunately not the case.
    I think, in this context, it would be a matter of getting their last show out before Disney+ says "Give us your money"

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    Funny episode of AoS last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLobster View Post
    Funny episode of AoS last night.
    Yeah. Nice to see everybody settling in to this storyline.


    And, my 2 cents on AOS is that it's been tough for them to connect with their audience because they aren't using any of the major characters from the movies OR comics. Yeah, there's Daisy, but she was introduced as a normal person in the beginning of the show, so that Daisy is locked into the show's universe.

    Not that it's been bad, I just didn't have the affinity for the new characters as I have for the heroes from the comics.

    I'd say it took until last season for the show to really come close to the caliber of product Marvel has been delivering elsewhere.

    But, I've been watching it the whole time, patiently waiting for some reason to care, knowing the potential they really have there. It's now growing into a really good show.

    But the inability to use mutants up to now has held back both AoS and the MCU, if you ask me.

    Seriously looking forward to whatever Marvel does with the X-Men, seeing as they made the deal with Fox.

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    OOF. Yeah, I mentioned it earlier in this thread (back when the trailer dropped), but when they show the side-by-side comparison of Mystique's face, it is PAINFULLY obvious how fucking bad she looks this time around. So both her acting AND her makeup is half-assed in this movie. I can understand feeling like you're over being a character, but why wouldn't you still put in the effort and try to play the part as well as you can? Phoning in a performance is basically just sabotaging the movie and the performances of her co-stars, who are clearly still trying to give it their all despite the overall decline in quality. Sigh... I'm still gonna go see it and hope for the best.

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    You guys are tripping on Mystique. Even in that thumbnail, the new one looks way better. I thought she looked really great in this movie, and the make up and effects are at an all time high. Action scenes we're good too and the writing was ok.

    I like that nightcrawler had more screen time, but his characterization is a shadow of the charming, playful, empathetic person he is in the comics. Storm, not my favorite character, but theseovoes have also done her dirty, too. The whole "phone line to the president" thing was really dumb in an old school kind of way, but things worked out in the end.

    If you like X-Men movies, you will probably like this one.

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    She might look more "real" this time, but it's "real" in a "cos-play" kind of way (i.e., not professional film quality). It's like it went from seven (Jennifer Lawrence in earlier films) to nine (Rebecca Romijn-Stamos) hours in the make-up chair to just... one. Good enough for a halloween costume, but certainly not Hollywood blockbuster-level material. An all time low, I'd argue. It's as though J-Law's complete indifference to the film and her role in it, accompanied with her "early departure" made the studio less than eager to spend the money on her character's special effects. (For the record, I have not seen it yet)

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    I never like the original make up at all, maybe at least because it wasn't even comic accurate. Just painting her blue is the most comic accurate.

    This series has so many worse sins, anyway. I thought her elevated role in Days of Future past was actually cool, of a little forced, and in this hers is quite a minor part. There is a case to be made that some of these characters, like nightcrawler, should just be CGI. It worked for Colossus and juggernaut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wretchedest View Post
    I never like the original make up at all, maybe at least because it wasn't even comic accurate. Just painting her blue is the most comic accurate.
    You make a good point here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wretchedest View Post
    This series has so many worse sins, anyway. I thought her elevated role in Days of Future past was actually cool, of a little forced, and in this hers is quite a minor part. There is a case to be made that some of these characters, like nightcrawler, should just be CGI. It worked for Colossus and juggernaut
    I don't disagree with any of this, either. The CGI would have to be GOOD though, not distractingly low-budget like it was in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

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