Honestly don’t think there’s a band that I’m okay with NIN doing a coheadlining tour with outside of maybe RATM. Hopefully the intimate settings are permanent.
Honestly don’t think there’s a band that I’m okay with NIN doing a coheadlining tour with outside of maybe RATM. Hopefully the intimate settings are permanent.
Man, and even RATM would be a no from me lol. Yeah, agreeing with you in hoping intimate settings are permanent.
What if Mariqueen was in NIN?
A girl? In Nine Inch Nails? The manliest of man bands? Perish the thought!
I've enjoyed her guest performances, especially since it seems that How To Destroy Angels is dead at this point. However, I'm not sure how she would fit in as a permanent fixture in the band. She's mainly a vocalist, and aside from doing HTDA songs and backing vocals, there wouldn't be a lot for her to do. She doesn't have the range that Lisa Fischer and Sharlotte Gibson had (not a criticism, just an observation), so it would probably be hard for her to participate in that way.
Pretty sure MQ knows her way around Moogs n' shit. She can riff around with the rest of the gang on stage. Everybody shares vocal duties these days anyways.
The live version of Closer with the Only Time breakdown, has been performed more than the original version without it and that still feels weird to me.
I didn't say that she was merely a vocalist, but that is what she's known for primarily. I'm aware that she can do other things as well, and I'm not against the idea of her being brought in (hence my joke), but my point is that I don't really see where she would fit in with the current lineup. She could play synths, but Atticus and Alessandro already have that area covered.
I mean, that was the same configuration in HTDA. At this point being part of NIN is whatever Reznor deems necessary or interesting, whether we're talking studio or stage I don't see any reason why MQ couldn't be part of it, that's all. Just because one has specific skills doesn't make them a specialist, purely assigned to their designated instrument or role. At least it doesn't seem to be that way in this band.
1997 Trent Reznor lives on in The Sandman Netflix series... (especially episode 6)
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It is interesting to think about what form NIN shows will take in the future. I think continuing the size venues they've been playing since 2017 seems likely, only because if they did jump back to arenas, which they could obviously still sell well enough to fill them, they'd have to create a bigger stage show. It kinda felt like after Rob left, and maybe it's just a coincidence, that he's taken a more lo-fi approach to the show, which allows for much more fluid setlists, which fans obviously enjoy more than knowing the setlist will remain mostly the same night to night.
I wouldn't mind a mix of big arena shows with a crazy stage show, then paired down shows like we've been getting the last few years. Those big arena tours with static setlists would be easier to get tix to, and I wouldn't feel compelled to go to as many shows as I do now.
As much as I've enjoyed them, I'm kind of glad they've abandoned the big visuals for the last couple tours. It's brought things back to how it was during the early days of the band. It's become much more about the performance than the light show, and I feel like they've been able to do some cool stuff with a more minimal setup. They've certainly been able to play more stuff and mix it up a bit. I also don't think they want to keep participating in the big arena show wars, with each tour getting bigger and more elaborate. Let's be honest: if people just want a big effects spectacle, they're probably not going to a Nine Inch Nails show at this point.
I mean, there are also going to be a select few disappointed by the lack of grandiose spectacle. The 2008–2014 era was legendary (rightly so) for the visuals, and I did hear a bit of post-show chatter in the Radio City Music Hall lobby that someone had brought their kid to the show thinking it was going to be more like that, and they were more than a bit confused by what they got.
I think NIN should cover "Land of Confusion" by Genesis.
Just checked the website of Sound City Studios and found out that The Slip was recorded there. Never heard it before. Wow....
Did I imagine that they only recorded samples and then Trent built the drums with Addictive Drums?
The way Trent says "I'm going to make a withdrawal" at the end of the Deep music video reminds me of how Ryan Gosling says "I drive" in the movie Drive and it's cracking me up for some reason.
Since The Gathering of the Nine (and the later concert), I've been thinking about NIN more than I have in a while. I'm talking about thoughts while doing random things around the house, taking a dump, etc. Mostly because I haven't liked much of the stuff from the EP trilogy and the later soundtracks I've heard (skipped some for the movies I didn't care to see - I know, some day I'll listen).
Still, NIN will always be my #1. Even with what I've said above and the songs not hitting me so strongly, I still recognize that TR/AR are at the top of their game. There's new stuff that I really do like (Locusts is incredible, for example).
But now I just want every one of them to get in the same studio together for a full album. For me I'd just like it to be shaken up a bit with more than just (seemingly) session musicians.
It was said elsewhere on here, but it was incredible seeing them appear on stage and immediately inhabit the same presence as they had in the 90s, just as if not a single day had passed. Not many bands can do this, let alone with such vitality. They even move the same. It was quite a treat.
Super bizarre - but I've mentioned this before and want it more than ever after seeing them banter during the talk - I want them to be in a heist movie, Oceans 11 style.
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Hey guys!
I've recently started a Post graduate degree in computer music composition and I had to chose an artist that I considered offers a "radical" sonic experience to write a small essay. I thought why not share it here!
Here is the translated short essay (translated from French):
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Artist: Trent Reznor.
Links:
(especially the intro)
(very contrasting with the two previous videos)
(composition played on automatic piano in a sound installation at Banksy’s Walled Off Hotel in Bethlehem)
His group, Nine Inch Nails, founded in 1988, has been part of my musical universe since I was little and I have long followed the work of its sole founder, Trent Reznor.
A radical experience
What makes it a radical sound experience for me is the great experimental diversity that the artist can offer us while maintaining its pop music sensitivity. He likes, by his own admission, to push the sound experience of his pieces until their coherence threatens to collapse. What struck me about the first video, on which we only see the second part of the piece, is precisely that we switch from a song with a very pop character with harmonic sequence and catchy melody to something much more centered on texture and rhythm. Even the rhythm sometimes seems to crumble. Although quite calculated, this portion of the piece features a lot of improvisation and the performance varied from night to night while maintaining consistency with the visuals.
On the second video, we are offered a completely new introduction compared to what is on the album from which the piece is. Once again, it is the atmosphere and the sound texture that are at the center of the musical experience and the rhythm gradually takes its place. The sound is very rich and it is easy to be completely immersed in the atmosphere. In my opinion, this is a great way to start a show in a way to say "it's the music that is at the center of this performance". The lights on stage are also heavily dimmed. What is radical for me in this video is that an artist who has made his mark with rock/pop/industrial hits starts a show with ambient. Again here, there is a lot of improvisation in the introduction which makes it possible to do something different with each performance.
The third video shows a much more ambient piece and I personally find that although there is a harmonic progression and a melody, these take up so little space that we tend to focus on the texture. It's very personal, but I think we're at the limit. Again, this demonstrates the diversity that the artist can offer. The last video also shows a composition played in a sound installation for automatic piano, work done in collaboration with Atticus Ross with whom he has also composed several film soundtracks and won several awards including two Oscars and a Golden Globe .
Link to my practice
What attracts me in these works is precisely the fact of playing at the limit between textural music and popular music. I myself aspire to play on this boundary and blur the line between the two. I also like the coherence between the visual, the performance and the sound experience, especially in the first video. I love that an artist as established as him does not compromise in order to please his audience and continues to experiment. It is for me an inspiring artistic integrity.
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The last time I saw NIN was 9 years ago today according to my FB memories. What a great show.
Most banger song on each album/EP in my opinion (not necessarily best, but most fun/energetic):
PHM: Sin
Broken: Last
TDS: Heresy
The Fragile: Starfuckers
With Teeth: You Know What You Are
Year Zero: Meet Your Master
The Slip: Letting You
Hesitation Marks: I Would For You
NTAE: Branches/Bones
Add Violence: Less Than
Bad Witch: Shit Mirror
What are your pics?
NIN album/EP closers ranked
Hurt > Right Where It Belongs > Over and Out > Burning Bright (Field on Fire) > Zero-Sum > Ringfinger > The Background World > Ripe (with decay) > Demon Seed > Black Noise > Suck
NIN album/EP openers ranked:
Mr. Self Destruct > Somewhat Damaged > Head Like A Hole > Pinion/Wish > Branches/Bones > Shit Mirror > Copy of A > 1,000,000 > Less Than > All the love in the world > Hyperpower!
Like you said, not necessarily my favorites, but bangers:
PHM: HLAH
Broken: Wish
TDS: MOTP
The Fragile: No, You Don't
WT: You know what you are
Year Zero: Survivalism
The Slip: 1,000,000
HM: In Two
NTAE: Branches/Bones
Add Violence: Less Than
Bad Witch: Ahead of Ourselves
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