Marilyn Manson

[Airbornefeline]

Manson puts on a good show if the crowd is good, i've noticed. It seems like the shows where he gives way less of a fuck are shows where the audience aren't as into it. Maybe he gives less of a fuck because they suck, or they suck because he sucks? I'm not sure. I saw him in El Paso last october and it was an amazing performance and the audience was really into it. The setlist definitely does need a change though. The first show of the pale emperor tour had a great setlist as someone already pointed out (acoustic sweet dreams, mister superstar into warship my wreck, a bunch of new songs). who knows why they decided to scrap that after a night

[Archive_Reports]

http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/07/22...snt-look-good/

[october_midnight]

Lolllllllllllll

Love how he just up and punches that guy's monitor near the end. So edgy. So reckless. What a rebel.

[Jinsai]

http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/07/22...snt-look-good/

holy shit...

A live arena metal show is already ridiculously loud... Anyone who's ever worked live sound cringed while looking at that. What an asshole. Good thing the sound guy was fast on his feet, but that was probably a brain-crushingly loud second of audio there.

[Harry Seaward]

I'm pretty sure bands that do use prompters — and NIN is not an example, as I've never seen one in countless thousands of images of NIN shows — are just looking at regular monitors on the floor. Not that I have any problem with this, but it's still a bummer when you forget 'cause have to check your feet. Not very fitting with NIN's image, and again I've never seen it. Anyhow, TR screwing up the words at a NIN show is cause for delight, not concern! There's likely to be an imminent shit-fit and something getting broken onstage.

Yes you're right in that, in the case of NIN, they were actually probably using monitors and not those cool translucent Obama teleprompters. But somebody asked TR during the Tension 2013 tour during VIP soundcheck or Q&A or something if the teleprompters were for him and he annoyedly responded that they were for Lisa/Sharlotte. But I wouldn't doubt that he also took advantage of them. But yeah, I can't verify if they were used on other tours.

[tony.parente]

Hearing early reports that manson is in the hospital in upstate New York. No details just yet.

[botley]

Source? (applies to both posts above)

[tony.parente]

Source? (applies to both posts above)

Fan Facebook page, his supposed nurses brother posted about it saying he was admitted tonight. Additionally his appearance at the Make Me a Maryr premier was canceled tonight as well.

[Krazy]

As much crap as we give the guy (some deserved, some not), hope dude is alright.

[thevoid99]

I really hope he doesn't die. I don't want him to die like an asshole. I want him to get his shit together and actually give a shit about performing and make good records.

[ManBurning]

Someone needs to give this man an intervention.

To be quite honest, I'm surprised he is still alive the way he treats himself still.

[Harry Seaward]

Yes you're right in that, in the case of NIN, they were actually probably using monitors and not those cool translucent Obama teleprompters. But somebody asked TR during the Tension 2013 tour during VIP soundcheck or Q&A or something if the teleprompters were for him and he annoyedly responded that they were for Lisa/Sharlotte. But I wouldn't doubt that he also took advantage of them. But yeah, I can't verify if they were used on other tours.

Source?

I'm not sure what source I can give you unless the person who asked the question to TR (or anybody else that was in there for the soundcheck) happens to be on ETS. I met them along with a bunch of other people (cc: @HeavenlyBearded) from ETS in Vegas, so it's quite possible she's here. I don't remember who it was though, it was just a quick casual conversation almost 3 years ago. I've reached out to Lisa and Sharlotte on Twitter; I will relay here what answer I get, if I get one.

[Hazekiah]

Wait, he doesn't play Fight Song at shows anymore? That's odd, I was under the impression that it was one of his biggest hits.

Definitely not. The video and single got next-to-no airplay, despite its unabashed awesomeness.

I hope to see it back someday soon, too. It fucking STOMPS live and I miss chanting FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! and throwing an oxygen mask to him every night, lol.

Manson puts on a good show if the crowd is good, i've noticed. It seems like the shows where he gives way less of a fuck are shows where the audience aren't as into it. Maybe he gives less of a fuck because they suck, or they suck because he sucks? I'm not sure. I saw him in El Paso last october and it was an amazing performance and the audience was really into it.

Obviously, an enthusiastic, engaged audience makes all the difference for a performer like him. He's actually talked about it in several interviews over the years.

I've noticed over the years that the Texan fanbase seems to throw down extra hard and I've still never seen a "bad" show there. Glad to hear you had such a great time!

holy shit...

A live arena metal show is already ridiculously loud... Anyone who's ever worked live sound cringed while looking at that. What an asshole. Good thing the sound guy was fast on his feet, but that was probably a brain-crushingly loud second of audio there.

Haha, you've gotta have fun at what you do! I thought it was a nice bit of pranksterism, at least.

Would have KILLED to have been there so I could've captured it with a better mic!

Fan Facebook page, his supposed nurses brother posted about it saying he was admitted tonight. Additionally his appearance at the Make Me a Maryr premier was canceled tonight as well.

I can vouch for the guy. We're good pals and go back almost a decade to when he caught my bible after Manson tossed it and he found all my email and phone contact info inside it, lol. He's a good guy who's lived on the east coast his whole life and he was just trying to express concern and help give a heads-up to pals and fellow fans he knew were traveling from afar in case of another cancellation.

Pretty bummed about his cancelled appearance at the Let Me Make You a Martyr premiere, too. One of my pals ponied-up for the kickstarter and had tickets to the premiere because of it and we were planning on going. Likewise, tonight's supposed to be my first night on this tour, so fingers = crossed.

No news is good news, I guess.

:-\

"early reports"

lol

I mean, c'mon. Straight from the nurse IS pretty much as "early" as an early report can be, after all.

[slave2thewage]

Definitely not. The video and single got next-to-no airplay, despite its unabashed awesomeness.

I hope to see it back someday soon, too. It fucking STOMPS live and I miss chanting FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! and throwing an oxygen mask to him every night, lol.

Huh. It must be a regional thing, since the video was on constantly over here back in the day.

[october_midnight]

Is it even possible that the shows going forward could be even shittier than the ones thus far? Is that even possible?

[Shadaloo]

And here I was chalking his bad vibes in Montreal up to his diva tendencies.

If he's actually been hospitalized I'll choke down my bile. I wouldn't expect anyone to give a good performance under those conditions.

[Jinsai]

Haha, you've gotta have fun at what you do! I thought it was a nice bit of pranksterism, at least.

Would have KILLED to have been there so I could've captured it with a better mic!

Ok, I do live sound, that's a good gig... I'm a sound guy, and I've also performed live in bands. Doing both has given me a decent understanding of both sides of the mirror. I'm not hugely famous or nearly as cracked out of my mind as Marilyn Manson, but I know what it's like to do both jobs.

That isn't "fun" what he's doing there. That's being a fucking asshole.

[imail724]

I've noticed over the years that the Texan fanbase seems to throw down extra hard and I've still never seen a "bad" show there.

I get the impression you've never seen a "bad" Manson show anywhere.

[tony.parente]

Is it even possible that the shows going forward could be even shittier than the ones thus far? Is that even possible?

I bought 6th row seats for what I was assuming was going to be a train wreck and honest I don't think they can get any worse, this has been the worst tour he has ever done, I'm honestly very worried about him. He can literally only go up from here, I hope he sobered up in the hospital and can have a moment of clarity to see what he's doing to himself, his fans, his girlfriend and his dad. I don't want to have to try and explain his shitty behavior anymore to my friends and wife.

[Jinsai]

I don't want to have to try and explain his shitty behavior anymore to my friends and wife.

Well, I can say that I'm glad I've never had to explain Marilyn Manson's shitty behavior to anyone... From that video I watched, I would have cheered if the sound guy had beaten him into a coma.

[Hazekiah]

^ Still looking forward to seeing you there, btw!

Huh. It must be a regional thing, since the video was on constantly over here back in the day.

Yeah, it's possible. But, regardless, it was still never one of his biggest hits or even really a hit at all...I guess you just lucked out and heard it played a lot. "Tainted Love," by comparison, wasn't really that big a deal in the States but was HUGE overseas.

And here I was chalking his bad vibes in Montreal up to his diva tendencies.

If he's actually been hospitalized I'll choke down my bile. I wouldn't expect anyone to give a good performance under those conditions.

That's fair. And, fwiw...between Manson disappearing for a bit, songs getting cut, and the mumbled mention of a "flesh wound," it sounds like he probably had a serious cut to deal with offstage for a few minutes. That happened at the Nashville show concluding the End Times show and no one really knew what was taking so long between songs until he came back out with a tourniquet around his arm and was bleeding all over himself through the fresh bandages on his middle finger, lol.

It happens!

But, hey. You still got that Tones on Tail cover intro! With sax and NOT as an intro for "Rock is Dead," both of which I believe are firsts as far as I know, at least.

Ok, I do live sound, that's a good gig... I'm a sound guy, and I've also performed live in bands. Doing both has given me a decent understanding of both sides of the mirror. I'm not hugely famous or nearly as cracked out of my mind as Marilyn Manson, but I know what it's like to do both jobs.

That isn't "fun" what he's doing there. That's being a fucking asshole.

Meh.

It's his performance, his soundboard, and his employee. He can fuck around if he wants to and the venue equipment is insured anyway so w/e.

I get the impression you've never seen a "bad" Manson show anywhere.

Not personally, no. I've always enjoyed the shows I've attended!

That said, obviously I've seen PLENTY of rougher shows they had to struggle through more than others, but the extra effort, commitment, and suffering required to muscle through it anyway was always impressive enough to balance out the downsides, as far as I'm concerned. They weren't "bad," they were just difficult and less than perfect. And that's okay. The shows are STILL fun as hell and blow me away enough to allow for some slip-ups and off-nights.

[Jinsai]

Meh.

It's his performance, his soundboard, and his employee. He can fuck around if he wants to and the venue equipment is insured anyway so w/e.

He's not insured for destroying the ears of the people in the audience, and even if your sad apologetics involve the fact that these are "his employees," you're still an asshole for treating your employees like shit while you prance around high-as-fuck, and only the biggest fanboy excuses that shit.

[mfte]

He's not insured for destroying the ears of the people in the audience, and even if your sad apologetics involve the fact that these are "his employees," you're still an asshole for treating your employees like shit while you prance around high-as-fuck, and only the biggest fanboy excuses that shit.

Ditto.


Little summary of his recent exploits

http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/07/22...snt-look-good/

[Harry Seaward]

Source? (applies to both posts above)

I'm not sure what source I can give you unless the person who asked the question to TR (or anybody else that was in there for the soundcheck) happens to be on ETS. I met them along with a bunch of other people (cc: @HeavenlyBearded) from ETS in Vegas, so it's quite possible she's here. I don't remember who it was though, it was just a quick casual conversation almost 3 years ago. I've reached out to Lisa and Sharlotte on Twitter; I will relay here what answer I get, if I get one.

K they responded and said that the monitor was used mainly for rehearsal and only for a few shows. I knew I wasn't making it up!

[tony.parente]

He went from doing 11 songs in his set to 8 tonight. Get a load of this shit, at this rate he'll be ending up doing 4 songs by the end of the tour.

1. Angel With the Scabbed Wings
2. Disposable Teens
3. No Reflection
4. mOBSCENE
5. Intermission
   (Lengthy delay)
6. The Dope Show
7. Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
   (Eurythmics cover)
8. Antichrist Superstar
9. Intermission
   (Lengthy delay.)
10. The Beautiful People

Note: 1st delay was 10+ minutes long. 2nd delay was 10+ minutes long. Band also left the stage for 3+ minutes before Anitchrist Superstar. Set was 60 minutes, and they played 8 songs.

[Disassociative]

Maybe he's still sick and in those breaks he's trying to get his shit back together? I don't know.

[tony.parente]

Maybe he's still sick and in those breaks he's trying to get his shit back together? I don't know.

Well, it's important to note he was absolutely wasted again tonight. He shot his condom cannon off too early before the dope show then rolled around giggling on the ground afterwards from what the videos showed.

[Jinsai]

He shot his condom cannon off too early before the dope show then rolled around giggling on the ground afterwards from what the videos showed.

I'm pretty certain I don't even know what this means.... but I'm not sure

[tony.parente]

I'm pretty certain I don't even know what this means.... but I'm not sure

It's a tshirt gun that shoots condoms lol

[bobbie solo]

It's a tshirt gun that shoots condoms lol

oh cool. Sounds like a great time. Part. from a 47 year old man. Get it together Brian.