Yeah, rewatching it now (in segments). Cal actually was a bastard. I didn't remember a lot of the movie.Originally Posted by eversonpoe
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Yeah, rewatching it now (in segments). Cal actually was a bastard. I didn't remember a lot of the movie.
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Never knew why the film needed a villain, unless it was to make Leo that much more the heartthrob. Replace his character with Rose's father who still has conflicts with Jack, but is more heroic towards the end as the you-know-what sinks.
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Billy Zane was a great villain for the movie, classic baddie for an over-the-top melodrama. I love Titanic. Yeah, the plot is super predictable and the characters are one-dimensional, but the cast is superb and the movie just looks so good it doesn't matter.
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Eyes Wide Shut is a masterpiece.
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never saw it!
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Hell yes it is. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's one of Kubrick's very best.
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Channing Tatum is the Emilio Estevez of this generation.
Whether this is positive or negative is up to you.
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i would say he's more versatile, and has a better sense of humor about himself.
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Sure, I'll go with that. In my head, I can see them doing each others roles (including tap-dancing in Hail Caesar! for Estevez and "I'll make ya famous" for Tate in Young Guns)
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Dazed and Confused and especially Can't Hardly Wait weren't that good.
SPECTRE was awesome, as good as Casino Royale and Skyfall.
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can't hardly wait is totally underrated. and i'm not just saying that because it's spoken in the directors' follow-up, josie & the pussycats (which is also phenomenal)
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I hated that movie. The thing with the letter? FFS, was that a rejected storyline from Saved by the Bell? The clichéd characters, dumb teen melodrama, sucked.
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Things wrong with that scene:
1. They don't look like high school kids.
2. People wouldn't be crowded around the two people, hanging on every word like that.
3. High School parties like this only exist in the movies.
4. Not funny, not even a little bit.
5. So she finds the letter and suddenly they have a budding romance, even though they hardly know each other and are going off to different school where they will meet other people.
6. A letter? A letter makes her fall for him?
7. The police would have been called 30 minutes into this high school party.
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This is old, but ... Dazed and Confused is a period movie that’s far more enjoyable to people who were actually around during the particular period in question. Just like how you like “Singles.” “Dazed” perfectly sums up high school during that period, even if you didn’t go to high school in Texas or didn’t have those dumb rituals at your high school (we certainly didn’t), the movie still sums up the massive boredom, hanging out, pot-smoking and aimlessly driving around while pot-smoking, and the music.
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The Ten Commandments SUCKS. Everything about it sucks.
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Okay, I'll bite. Is it because of the chair thing? Because yeah, that was absolutely ridiculous. It made him look like an old fool who's losing his mind. I'll admit I don't know much about him as a person, apart from what is on his Wikipedia page. My comment was only about his career in movies.
The Charlton Heston/ Yul Brynner thing? I believe you mean that it's awesomely kitsch. It's the best fun I have every Easter!
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It’s about Passover, and it’s the WORST 9000-hour waste-of-time ever.
Clint Eastwood is known as an asshole in the U.S. because he’s a Republican Trump supporter. Although he recently switched to Bloomberg (not redeeming).
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this is a little melodramatic, but it's not wrong. and it links to the vanity fair article where he very clearly outs himself as an out of touch, racist dick.
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i hear you but who cares! its a dumb movie. Youre not wrong , but dont let CHW get u so tight, its not worth it!
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Whilst this might not sound controversial to some, Animated films (Drawing, CG and Stop motion) are LEGITIMATE ART FORMS AND LEGITIMATE FILMS IN THEIR OWN RIGHT! Just because most are aimed at children (with varying degrees of quantity) doesn't mean they should all be ignored for simply being animated.
The amount of people in my life who have shot down animated films to me is staggering, and one of them was my fucking art teacher!
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i have never seen a gaspar noe film, and i will never see one. i have read the synopses of all of them, i've read articles and reviews about them, and for the life of me, i cannot understand why anyone would subject themselves to such horrific films. i feel like there's nothing redeeming in them. no likable characters, no good stories, no true message of any kind. i know that the visuals in his newer films are supposed to be stunning, but aside from that, i can't think of a good reason to watch his work.
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Stories aren't always about likable characters and redemption and "the message" though. If that's all you're interested in, cool, but that's only a portion of the stories that can be told. I haven't liked every film Noe has done, but I respect that he's not interested in black and white, good guys and bad guys storytelling. I'm not opposed to that kind of storytelling, but it's not something I can solely subsist on. After a while, that sort of thing starts to feel fake. As wild as his films can be, they're incredibly grounded in human behavior and the choices/mistakes people make.
And reality is way more horrific than anything in his films.
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i don't think that's quite what i meant...i'm fine with provocation, fine with studies of human behavior, and i'm fine with a lack of black & white / good people & bad people. i'm also more than fine with discomfort & heavy subject matter. i'm a huge david lynch fan, my favorite show is hannibal, and i've read plenty of books that are along the lines of what we're talking about. but something about noe's films (from what i have gleaned) makes me extremely uncomfortable, but not in an intriguing way, just in a way that makes me feel disgusted.
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If you're into all that, then I don't really see why his films would be so hard to stomach.
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right? idunno.
anyway, no judgement at all on anyone who enjoys (is that the right word?) his films! glad we got to discuss this a bit because i don't know anyone in real life who has seen any of his work.
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You aren’t missing anything. Don’t see also: Lars Von Trier.
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Oh man. I feel like he's made some good movies mixed in with the shit stuff you're probably thinking of. Not always easy watches of course, but Dancer in the Dark & Melancholia (part. the latter) are def. worth watching. I thought Melancholia was really well done. Even Nymphomaniac is a decent movie but with flaws. Not a good person irl or on set, but has made some good movies.
Only Noe film I've seen was Irreversible. It was very hard to watch, multiple people left the theater, etc. But I've never seen anything like that movie. It has stuck with me ever since. Worth seeing for sure b/c its a uniquely horrifying movie, and the visuals are stunning as said.
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Agreed. Melancholia in particular was quite good. I went into it knowing next to nothing about the plot and was very pleasantly surprised.
Yeah, Irreversible is not for the faint of heart, but it's not really meant to be a passive experience. Everything about the film (and all of Noe's films) is designed to provoke, including the music and the cinematography. Some people just aren't looking for that kind of experience.Only Noe film I've seen was Irreversible. It was very hard to watch, multiple people left the theater, etc. But I've never seen anything like that movie. It has stuck with me ever since. Worth seeing for sure b/c its a uniquely horrifying movie, and the visuals are stunning as said.
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Aside from the visuals, the droning soundscape by Thomas Bangalter was just as disturbing. IDK, it's like he found frequencies that made me physically ill.
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Enter the Void is a trek through some traumatizing realness, and it's one of the better movies I've seen from the past decade.
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