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    Quote Originally Posted by richardp View Post
    You mean Trent and Atticus are working like normal film composers?? SHOCKING!
    They are working more like standard film composers, not elite ones (which they are)...They are at a level where they do not need to compose films or tv shows to pay the bills. They can be selective and choose what they want, so saying yes to Jonah Hill skateboard movies to dump out 4 songs that he can write in his sleep that he composed backstage in the most half baked way possible, or to say yes to some netflix show where 99% of the audience watching it wont give two fucks who the score came from doesnt seem prudent at this juncture of their careers. Carpenter and Morricone and Hans Zimmer do not say yes to everything that they get offered. Next we are going to hear how TR and Atticus are going to score a "very special episode" of Fuller House

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    They are working more like standard film composers, not elite ones (which they are)...They are at a level where they do not need to compose films or tv shows to pay the bills. They can be selective and choose what they want, so saying yes to Jonah Hill skateboard movies to dump out 4 songs that he can write in his sleep that he composed backstage in the most half baked way possible, or to say yes to some netflix show where 99% of the audience watching it wont give two fucks who the score came from doesnt seem prudent at this juncture of their careers. Carpenter and Morricone and Hans Zimmer do not say yes to everything that they get offered. Next we are going to hear how TR and Atticus are going to score a "very special episode" of Fuller House
    Orrrrrr.... hear me out...

    They just enjoy making music, and enjoy the process of scoring films. They also, if you can believe it, might also be collaborating with friends or, in Jonah Hill's case, fans, as a courtesy, or just entirely for fun.

    I know it's hard to grasp it, but not every musician makes career choices based on the individual needs of every fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardp View Post
    Orrrrrr.... hear me out...

    They just enjoy making music, and enjoy the process of scoring films. They also, if you can believe it, might also be collaborating with friends or, in Jonah Hill's case, fans, as a courtesy, or just entirely for fun.

    I know it's hard to grasp it, but not every musician makes career choices based on the individual needs of every fan.
    If you think a 4 song 12 minute digital download "score" is equal to the 2-3 hour scores of Dragon Tattoo and Gone Girl, and that he put as much effort into these little 3 or 4 song scores as he did with the others...So be it lol....Thats like saying Bad Witch in all its 25 minute entirety is as big of a magnum opus as the 3 hours of The Fragile.....My point is dumping out these little 3 or 4 song quick toss-off scores seems like throwaways compared to the scores of Social Nework/Dragon/Gone Girl etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    If you think a 4 song 12 minute digital download "score" is equal to the 2-3 hour scores of Dragon Tattoo and Gone Girl, and that he put as much effort into these little 3 or 4 song scores as he did with the others...So be it lol....Thats like saying Bad Witch in all its 25 minute entirety is as big of a magnum opus as the 3 hours of The Fragile.....My point is dumping out these little 3 or 4 song quick toss-off scores seems like throwaways compared to the scores of Social Nework/Dragon/Gone Girl etc
    Alright dude. You've missed the point complete. But alright dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    They are at a level where they do not need to compose films or tv shows to pay the bills.
    They've always been at that level.

    Carpenter and Morricone and Hans Zimmer do not say yes to everything that they get offered.
    Carpenter would totally say yes to anything that was offered to him if the money was right. That's all he cares about. Morricone may not, but if you think Hans Zimmer is frothing at the mouth to score films like The Boss Baby, you're dead fucking wrong.

    Also, Trent has specifically stated that they've been offered films and they've passed on them because they didn't feel like they were a good fit for them. Just because a film may not be your cup of tea or have loads of music attached to it doesn't mean that they're phoning it in.

    Oh yeah, and one more thing: the amount of music that's in a film is not up to the composer(s). It's up to the filmmakers. If a director wants a minimalist score, then that's what they'll ask for. It's not as if a director asks for a bombastic score and Trent & Atticus say "nah, we're just going to give you this because that's all we feel like doing". They're working in service to whatever the filmmakers' vision is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    They are working more like standard film composers, not elite ones (which they are)...They are at a level where they do not need to compose films or tv shows to pay the bills. They can be selective and choose what they want, so saying yes to Jonah Hill skateboard movies to dump out 4 songs that he can write in his sleep that he composed backstage in the most half baked way possible, or to say yes to some netflix show where 99% of the audience watching it wont give two fucks who the score came from doesnt seem prudent at this juncture of their careers. Carpenter and Morricone and Hans Zimmer do not say yes to everything that they get offered. Next we are going to hear how TR and Atticus are going to score a "very special episode" of Fuller House
    LOL. I get what you're saying but Trent IS picking and choosing. I think he's doing what he finds interesting as opposed to what will make him seem like an elite composer or whatever you mean. I do think he should be even more selective and do movies in which the music plays a larger role. These last 2 movies haven't really been about the score at all and that's disappointing. I believe there was a rumor a while back that had them scoring a musical. Now that's something I think he should do; it would be about the music and it would be an interesting challenge for him I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streetman View Post
    I do think he should be even more selective and do movies in which the music plays a larger role. These last 2 movies haven't really been about the score at all and that's disappointing.
    It's only disappointing if you are someone who thinks the score should always be prominent just because it's Trent & Atticus. Trent has mentioned in a couple interviews that he appreciates it when a score doesn't overpower a movie but sits comfortably in it and supports the visual and storytelling elements (that's not a direct quote, by the way), and I feel Trent & Atticus have managed to do that very well with the projects they've worked on, especially in the last few years.

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