Europe lurches to the Right

[WorzelG]

So I finally got a government leaflet through the mail about why the UK should stay in Europe when we have the EU referendum. At last, it really feels like all the campaigning has been on the leave Europe side which I really don't want to happen

[Exocet]

So I finally got a government leaflet through the mail about why the UK should stay in Europe when we have the EU referendum. At last, it really feels like all the campaigning has been on the leave Europe side which I really don't want to happen

What does it say about the EU, when the U.K the second richest country in the European Union...second most populated...that many people in the U.K really dont even care about the institution...or know what it does exactly? It just does not impact on daily lives.

The whole Union needs a reformation its all so vauge.

The U.K has always distanced itself, and never been as involved with the EU as much as Germany, France or Italy.

I dont really like the EU ..but i think it would be stupid to leave. There is not much of a clear plan, if we do leave.
If the leave plan was clearer i would be up for it.

If we did leave it wont be catastrophic like some of the pro EU fear mongers are saying...infact it could be a good thing..but there is no clear plan in place.
I would give it another decade see if we can reform things.

I dont think we will leave...it will be a narrow victory for remaining.

But if we did leave and the economy stayed on track, THAT would be the death knell for the EU.
If France saw us doing better outside they would leave.

[Khrz]

If France saw us doing better outside they would leave.

We're one of the founding nations, I find that unlikely. As you said it's not like UK was ever part of the gang, whether it decides to join or leave at least we'll know where it stands at last... Seeing UK flourish outside of the EU wouldn't imply that leaving the EU is a good idea, except for some far right/left simplistic populists.

[icklekitty]

What does it say about the EU, when the U.K the second richest country in the European Union...second most populated...that many people in the U.K really dont even care about the institution...or know what it does exactly?

This is what's hit me the most; many people don't even know what the EU is for, and even official bodies (universities, embassies) have no idea what would and wouldn't change if we left. Stupid things I've heard include:

- If Brexit happens we will be able to get rid of the Tories (WTAF?!)
- We can just become like Norway (er, yeah, who have their own money due to oil, pay shitloads of tax and still have to comply to all the European trade and immigration regulations you are whining about)
- If we leave the EU we'll lose all our human rights (The EU brought in many workers rights but the European Court of Human Rights is a separate thing)
- If Brexit happens we can fill the Eurotunnel with concrete to keep them all out (add 10 bonus points if this is voiced by a naturalised immigrant)


I'm just really glad I'm bilingual and have dual citizenship.