Quote Originally Posted by Toadflax View Post
See, it's the "clearly subpar" that irks me. The guys who are being negative keep talking like the new material is "objectively bad" and anyone who thinks it's good must have blinders on. I haven't seen anyone say the new songs are the best songs in the band's discography. No one is telling you you're wrong for not liking it, so it kind of sucks when it comes across as people saying you're wrong if you do like it.
I agree with everything above, but especially this. It's the negativity presented as objectivity that is annoying: 'clearly subpar', 'nobody wants to hear six 10 minute songs', etc. The whining about wanting more vocals/lyrics, a double album, the band phoning it in, the number of tracks on the album, the expectation of MORE because it's been 13 years...it all sort of reeks of fan entitlement to me.