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    Quote Originally Posted by Charmingly Miserable View Post
    Fiona Apple is the shit. She's crazy but she is down right genius.
    There's nothing controversial about that. She's fucking awesome.

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    Iggy Azalea is awesome.

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    Kiss fucking suck. A style over substance band if I ever saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnjollyIrishman View Post
    Kiss fucking suck. A style over substance band if I ever saw it.
    I feel bad for the other members. It seems like they all enjoy mixing music with theatrics, but Gene Simmons is just money, money, money, tits and money.

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    Jazz: music for the (hypothetical) people who came to see the drummer.

    Seriously dude, don't make me come over there and take those cymbals away from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggroculture View Post
    Danny Elfman has written some amazing music in his time.
    The only Elfman score on my iPod is Midnight Run.



    Which would probably make me the worst Goth ever.

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    Belle and Sebastian turned quickly from bring one of my favourite bands ( their first two albums are classics) to the most annoying band of all time.
    Their new album is called Girls in Peacetime want to Dance....Pass the sick bucket.
    everytime i hear his lilly livered voice now singing about flowers and sunshine and cakes ...i just urgghh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exocet View Post
    Belle and Sebastian turned quickly from bring one of my favourite bands ( their first two albums are classics) to the most annoying band of all time.
    Their new album is called Girls in Peacetime want to Dance....Pass the sick bucket.
    everytime i hear his lilly livered voice now singing about flowers and sunshine and cakes ...i just urgghh.
    Disagree completely. I think they're a band that's progressed and gotten better. I've had the chance to hear a handful of songs from the forthcoming LP and they sound awesome and deal with some pretty dark themes (i.e. divorce, infidelity, prejudice). Your explanation of them is reeking of bad stereotyping of a sample size. Write About Love and The Life Pursuit contain tons of material that are personal, introspective, and a lot darker than "flowers and sunshine and cakes". Not to mention, they have about four different people who sing. I realize you're probably referring to Stuart Murdoch, but the band does have the satisfaction of having multiple singers which breaks down any monotony you may find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Charlemagne View Post
    Disagree completely. I think they're a band that's progressed and gotten better. I've had the chance to hear a handful of songs from the forthcoming LP and they sound awesome and deal with some pretty dark themes (i.e. divorce, infidelity, prejudice). Your explanation of them is reeking of bad stereotyping of a sample size. Write About Love and The Life Pursuit contain tons of material that are personal, introspective, and a lot darker than "flowers and sunshine and cakes". Not to mention, they have about four different people who sing. I realize you're probably referring to Stuart Murdoch, but the band does have the satisfaction of having multiple singers which breaks down any monotony you may find.
    the first two albums were very good. quite dark, and the lyrics were funny, stuart murdoch wrote the songs when he was wheelchair bound for a few years i think? then they evolved and they have turned into something else over the years, i could not even get through their last couple of albums, i was repelled by the fact there was still on some tracks an ever present over the top sweetness i found nauseating i find the constant gentle twee vibe boring after a while, but the general tone is different to what it was in 1996, thats the only incarnation of the band that really did it for me.
    the new album title just makes me groan.

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    I've never found them as overly sweet, that's not to see that some of their tracks aren't drenched in a campy attitude, but they're not like on a "She and Him" level of cuteness where it's borderline parody. I think they've worked best as an ensemble (prevalent on the last two LP's and this upcoming one) in which it's almost as the band working as a democracy, sort of in a New Pornographers way, except Murdoch is in no way as much as a dick as AC Newman. Also, they've had to interchange members since 1996, so it's not entirely the same band, which works because while they all share the same vision, they bring in different parts (twee, pop, AM-rock, funk). I can take or leave the album title, but I'm already preparing for this to be great based off of the handful of tracks I've heard and their ability to be consistently good (we call this the Spoon syndrome), and for a band who has had legions of copycats trying to get famous off the sound, nobody does cuteness as endearingly as Stu Murdoch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exocet View Post
    Belle and Sebastian turned quickly from bring one of my favourite bands ( their first two albums are classics) to the most annoying band of all time.
    Their new album is called Girls in Peacetime want to Dance....Pass the sick bucket.
    everytime i hear his lilly livered voice now singing about flowers and sunshine and cakes ...i just urgghh.
    IDK, The Life Pursuit was my favorite BAS album. The last one, Write about Love ​wasn't bad either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnjollyIrishman View Post
    Kiss fucking suck. A style over substance band if I ever saw it.
    Maybe in part, but no one put on a better rock show in the mid-to-late 70's, and they did write some memorable songs, i.e., "Do You Love Me," "Christine Sixteen," "Tears are Falling," etc.

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    I never could get into Belle and Sebastian and I tried a few times. Ugh.

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    belle and sebastian have a few decent songs... i've always liked 'boy done wrong again' but i could never really get through an entire record.

    that said, there is some amazing twee/indie pop that circles in orbit with them that's much better. on the more electronic side you have saint etienne, whose first two albums are divine. on the jangle side, there's a ton of great bands on sahrah records (the field mice, the wake, sea urchins, brighter, the sweetest ache, st. christopher, etc.) that are worth hearing. also those early boyracer EPs kill.

    (paging @xmd 5a to chime in here, as i know he's got my back on this stuff).

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    I'm tired of seeing people whining when an artist goes in a direction they don't want them to go in. Why can't people just realize that they can just stop listening to that artists new work and listen to something else?

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    (In defense of KISS)

    They also wrote this:



    Dinosaur JR and The Melvins did some great versions of this song by the way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Beach View Post
    I'm tired of seeing people whining when an artist goes in a direction they don't want them to go in. Why can't people just realize that they can just stop listening to that artists new work and listen to something else?
    Often people do that with musicians they've invested a lot of time into. If you've been a fan of a band for years, bought every album, seen live shows, supported them, gone out of your way to collect their work, see them live and have shirts, merch, etc., you could've easily spent thousands of dollars on them, and that's not counting the personal value they might have. So say you've done all of that, and then they start to go in a totally different direction that you think is utter shit, doesn't suit them and they're not sounding right in it, I think you'd have reason to be upset and complain.

    Now it hits a point where, if a band has spent more of their career letting you down than not, then you should fuck off and let them go, but that's a different story to me.

    Plus there's a difference between going in a unique direction that differs from what came before and doing it well, and going in a different direction and doing it poorly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Beach View Post
    I'm tired of seeing people whining when an artist goes in a direction they don't want them to go in. Why can't people just realize that they can just stop listening to that artists new work and listen to something else?
    Because some bands form deep connections with us, and a certain loyalty is created to these artists. , ive not been into anything by David Bowie or Public Enemy, or Prodigy or Massive Attack , Chemical Brothers for a long time yet every album they release i feel i need to listen to because of how much i like their earlier music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankie teardrop View Post
    belle and sebastian have a few decent songs... i've always liked 'boy done wrong again' but i could never really get through an entire record.

    that said, there is some amazing twee/indie pop that circles in orbit with them that's much better. on the more electronic side you have saint etienne, whose first two albums are divine. on the jangle side, there's a ton of great bands on sahrah records (the field mice, the wake, sea urchins, brighter, the sweetest ache, st. christopher, etc.) that are worth hearing. also those early boyracer EPs kill.

    (paging @xmd 5a to chime in here, as i know he's got my back on this stuff).
    To my shame I've never listened to a full Belle and Sebastian album. The scattered songs I've heard from them weren't engaging enough to make me want to dive any further in.

    But yes, the jangle/indie pop/twee umbrella is an absolutely massive treasure-trove that I'm still exploring. So so so much good stuff. C86, Sarah Records, Flying Nun Records. There's also a pretty fertile indie pop/jangle revival scene here in Australia that's yielded some great material (most recent Dick Diver and Blank Realm albums, Twerps) building on the Flying Nun / Go-Betweens template.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnjollyIrishman View Post
    Kiss fucking suck. A style over substance band if I ever saw it.
    I'm not going to defend their artistic merit, but Kiss never really pretended to be anything but a giant full on spectacle of a band, so I don't understand holding that against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koz-ivan View Post
    I'm not going to defend their artistic merit, but Kiss never really pretended to be anything but a giant full on spectacle of a band, so I don't understand holding that against them.
    I'd actually argue, artistically, that they were/are an underrated band. Not every album/song is great, but they do have quite a few gems:


    Eddie Van Halen played the solo on the demo, and Ace just copied it.



    Wow, what a cheesy video. Paul Stanley should be put on trial for crimes against good taste and fashion. Still a great song, IMHO, killer hook and melody.
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    ^Hard Luck Woman it's a great song, i'm glad you mentioned it...

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    I even liked their attempts to sound like Soundgarden:

    From the album Carnival of Seattle, er, I mean Carnival of Souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henryeatscereal View Post
    ^Hard Luck Woman it's a great song, i'm glad you mentioned it...
    I liked that song as well. Garth Brooks did a really good version of it w/ Kiss back in the 1990s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    I liked that song as well. Garth Brooks did a really good version of it w/ Kiss back in the 1990s.
    Oh yeah, for the "KISS MY ASS" album, i really like that tribute, Garth's version is one of my favorites along with the covers from Anthrax, Mighty Mighty Bosstones and Dinosaur JR, good tribute.

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    I was thinking of starting a thread about the band "Brujeria", but i think it's better to discuss here: i like the band and at times i like them more than Fear Factory (there's your controversial opinion), obviously the band is a joke and their lyrics and album covers fall in the shock/sick/tasteless department but i think that's what makes them special.
    I always laugh hard when i listen to gems like "La Migra", "Don Quijote Marijuana" and "Anti-Castro", i know at times their musical value isn't great and i consider them more of a "skit" band.
    I would love for Jello Biafra to come back and record more stuff with them, in a way it was like a match made in heaven...

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    Dave Grohl is cool and all, but the Foo Fighters are kind of boring.

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    Everyone's been raving about Death From Above for a few years now. I saw them back in 05 opening up for Nine Inch Nails with Queens of the Stone Age. Everyone thought Death From Above was amazing and that Queens sucked, but I felt the exact opposite. Queens were incredible, but Death From Above were fucking terrible. Not quite as bad as The Strokes (I saw them open up for the Stones) or Econoline Crush (they got booed off the stage opening for KISS in 98 when I saw them), but they were definitely in my personal top ten Worst Live Bands I've Ever Seen list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackholesun View Post
    Dave Grohl is cool and all, but the Foo Fighters are kind of boring.
    He is very cool, but I agree. They have some good songs, but I don't feel particularly challenged or compelled by the music they make. They mean very well and are good to their audience, but they never quite clicked for me.

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    I fucking love One Direction. I love that they all look like well dressed gay boys. I love how they make so many girls around the world so happy. I love how they bring me and my friends together. And I loved seeing them in concert.

    U.U
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