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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdean View Post
    Or LITS/CR, or 999999/1m
    Lights in the Sky and Corona Radiata are two tracks seguing into each other, to me. But having While I'm Still Here and Black Noise separated makes as much sense as separating Hurt from its white noise outro...

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    Btw, you do remember you can seamlessly loop "While I'm still here" forever? Then cancel the loop and enjoy your end of being here when you're ready. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by screwdriver View Post
    I just think you're reading way too much into the co-writing credit.
    What am I reading into it? If he felt it wasn't right, he could have quietly vetoed the release. A Perfect Circle and Puscifer are not covering any released Tapeworm songs, a scenario for which they wouldn't need to seek permission. They established new works based on prior work that was previously unpublished (hence the new title for "Passive"). To do that, you need express permission from the authours of the unreleased work, or at least from their representatives.

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    forget Tapeworm, i would still kill to hear the album TR did with Zack de la Rocha...why doesnt he just leak the fucking thing. over 20 songs recorded..it clearly pissed him off when Zack bailed on it....why not leak it to the masses

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    Quote Originally Posted by billpulsipher View Post
    ...why not leak it to the masses
    Because it's not his album to leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emptydesk View Post
    Does anyone have any insider info/gossip about the ending of the professional relationship between TR and Kevin McMahon? I've only heard whispers and rumors.

    I mean with the Vivendi/Seagram merger Nothing ended up reduced to NIN and Manson, but I've always felt like there's a story with what happened to Prick.
    Statements that were made:
    Kevin: “As time passed, the [first] record came out, they signed more and more people, and all of a sudden, the idea of me doing a record every year or every 18 months turned into 'Well, there’s no commercial radio hit here anymore, you need to do a commercial radio kind of thing.’”
    Kevin: "There was never any real blowout with Trent"
    Malm: "I think that he didn’t take well to the major label situation."

    Rumors:
    Some people have suggested that "I Know It's Going to Hurt" is about Trent and/or Nothing.
    One of the supposed titles for the second Prick album was "Numb," and one of the producers listed for The Wreckard is "Numb Struggles," suggesting that that album was produced by the struggles he went through trying to work with Nothing.

    Sounds like the business problems didn't translate into personal problems, even if they're not best buds anymore.

    The other information I've dug up is on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqhanlon View Post
    Rumors:
    Some people have suggested that "I Know It's Going to Hurt" is about Trent and/or Nothing.
    One of the supposed titles for the second Prick album was "Numb," and one of the producers listed for The Wreckard is "Numb Struggles," suggesting that that album was produced by the struggles he went through trying to work with Nothing.

    The other information I've dug up is on here.
    Good summary (even if those rumours are total bullshit), but this part is definitely inaccurate: "McMahon and Reznor had discussed working together in the studio around this time [pre-NIN], although it never panned out." TR is credited as a backing singer and sax player on Lucky Pierre's Communiqué EP.

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    Think they mean after NIN started?

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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    Good summary (even if those rumours are total bullshit), but this part is definitely inaccurate: "McMahon and Reznor had discussed working together in the studio around this time [pre-NIN], although it never panned out." TR is credited as a backing singer and sax player on Lucky Pierre's Communiqué EP.
    Hmm. Yeah, I definitely see how I worded that poorly. I was referring to a quote from McMahon in an interview that's archived on LuckyPrick. I think he's talking about recording with Trent outside of the context of Lucky Pierre:

    Q: What was it like working with Trent in the studio? Have you guys been friends all along?
    A: We were friends, he played in my group. He was a keyboard player in one of my bands in Cleveland and we wanted to get together and do some recording back then but that's one of the times I left the situation. He started writing at that time and got his Pretty Hate Machine record out. So he kind of disappeared for a few years. Although we still wanted to work together in the studio we would see each other in town... telephone. So yeah, we've been friends for awhile so in the studio it was just hanging out with somebody I knew and I've played with before.

    Also, I'm not totally convinced of the "I Know It's Going To Hurt" thing, but the Numb Struggles seems reasonable to me.

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    Do you think that Trent hasn't been able to do the classic Reznor bark vocals after the WT tour cause of all the roids he took?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfte View Post
    Do you think that Trent hasn't been able to do the classic Reznor bark vocals after the WT tour cause of all the roids he took?
    this, or just classic throat aging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperpower View Post
    so i was talking to a friend and he mentioned something about a falling out Trent had with APC during the Fragility tour.
    is this true? i was not aware of this and well things are different now but am curious as to what happened (if anything?).
    Hahaha. I remember this. Story time!

    What happened was some band was backstage, overheard some things, interpreted it as bitching, and went online to say that APC was unhappy with their touring situation. SLS News went with the story, and caught absolute hell for it. Imagine the kind of email Trent writes to you when he sees you spreading the idea that bands on your tour aren't getting the support they need. It was kind of devastating for the guy running the site - he called me in kind of a panic about it, and I tried to give him positive reassurances, but he made himself a shit sandwich and took a big bite out of it.

    So NIN rolls through our neck of the woods - Columbia, MD. (SLS was run out of Virginia). It was actually one of the nights I didn't announce that I'd be at the show - some of you may remember that I'd try to organize get-togethers at shows via the Hotline. I'm walking around with my buddy Jason, and I got one of those Fragility ticket holder laminates, and Evan (the guy who ran SLS) spots me. "Where'd you get that? Are you going backstage too? I got a call from Susan (who ran PR), she's flying in for the show." Super weird. I think at some point I ran into Keith or Rob, and they gave Jason and I stickies, so after the show, we're hanging out 'backstage' in the lounge area waiting for traffic to die down. Susan swoops in, Evan in tow, sees me, and assures me I'll get to talk to Trent too. At this point, I'd met the guy a couple of times, it's not that big a deal, it's more kind of weird that this whole thing is being set up like it is. Universal/Interscope management is, to put it mildly, melodramatic as hell, and maybe think Evan and I are more important than we really are with our fan sites.

    Anyway, some time passes, she emerges from the door and asks me to come back to wherever this room is that Trent's talking to Evan in. He explains the whole situation with APC and how it's actually fine, and this other group of people were just trying to fake some gravity by showing off that they were backstage at a NIN show. Evan, meanwhile, is telling Trent that he's heard the (as of yet unreleased) Tweaker album, and that he thinks Trent would really like it, and should give it a listen. Then a dude comes in with a huge pile of merch and gives it to Evan. Trent says, are you going to do something like that for Matt? I waved it off - "I'm not here for free merch dude, it's all good." (I probably should have kept my mouth shut).

    Wasn't that fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    Trent says, are you going to do something like that for Matt? I waved it off - "I'm not here for free merch dude, it's all good." (I probably should have kept my mouth shut).
    "naw man you don't need to do that I'm a size medium it's no big deal I like the tour date shirts really it's not about that you got any key chains"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    he made himself a shit sandwich and took a big bite out of it.
    this expression right there is excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfte View Post
    When you listen to I Do Not Want This. Does the snare fall on the 1? or does the kick fall on the 1?

    Yeah I think the snare is a pickup before the start of every beat, with the kick pretty sure landing on the one.

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    Can someone point me to the New NIN Material Thread? Just trying to check up on that but I can't seem to find it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copy_of_an_Echo View Post
    Can someone point me to the New NIN Material Thread? Just trying to check up on that but I can't seem to find it well.
    Well, there isn't an new NIN material, and therefore the thread was locked http://www.echoingthesound.org/commu...coming-in-2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdean View Post
    Well, there isn't an new NIN material, and therefore the thread was locked http://www.echoingthesound.org/commu...coming-in-2016
    Oh okay thanks anyway at least I understand how things are gonna be. Guess Trent's got no where else to hide, but God is on our side. At least, I'm sure that's what Placebo keeps telling himself. I am trying to believe, in this new material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdean View Post
    Well, there isn't an new NIN material, and therefore the thread was locked http://www.echoingthesound.org/commu...coming-in-2016
    But there will be.

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    I'm just trying to imagine spending my time backstage asking TR about a fucking tweaker album. I'd rather eat off the deli tray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emptydesk View Post
    I'm just trying to imagine spending my time backstage asking TR about a fucking tweaker album. I'd rather eat off the deli tray.
    It was more, I assume, a conversation about Reznor's former buddy and the new sound he was about to release rather than a discussion about just another one-man band. There is a whole context to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emptydesk View Post
    I'm just trying to imagine spending my time backstage asking TR about a fucking tweaker album. I'd rather eat off the deli tray.
    Did TR ever resolve the feud with Chris Vrenna ?

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    Can somebody help me figure out what's going on with The Fragile and WT instrumentals?

    They show up on my iPhone when I'm listening to NIN, and I can stream them, only I can't download them. This is annoying since that means I can't add them to playlists. Given the NIN fanbase, I'm sure someone has somehow gotten this stuff available for dl, but I am a grown-ass woman and I really don't feel like fucking around with torrents right now.

    So is there just no way to just download them to my iPhone through Apple itself? I don't have a subscription to Apple Music, but from what I've read that wouldn't make a difference since that service is all about streaming, not downloading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenLeslie View Post
    Can somebody help me figure out what's going on with The Fragile and WT instrumentals?

    They show up on my iPhone when I'm listening to NIN, and I can stream them, only I can't download them. This is annoying since that means I can't add them to playlists. Given the NIN fanbase, I'm sure someone has somehow gotten this stuff available for dl, but I am a grown-ass woman and I really don't feel like fucking around with torrents right now.

    So is there just no way to just download them to my iPhone through Apple itself? I don't have a subscription to Apple Music, but from what I've read that wouldn't make a difference since that service is all about streaming, not downloading.
    If you have iTunes, you can download them to your iTunes library directly from connect, and then I'm assuming could transfer the music files from iTunes to your iPhone. I don't know if you're able to download directly from the music app. I only played with apple music for 3 months because of the free trial, (and after that 3 months was up, I no longer needed to know about it for my job) tbh, so I don't know off the top of my head about downloading from it if you're not subscribed currently, and transferring music files from it to your phone. If that doesn't work for you, feel free to PM me and I'll look a little deeper into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenLeslie View Post
    Can somebody help me figure out what's going on with The Fragile and WT instrumentals?

    They show up on my iPhone when I'm listening to NIN, and I can stream them, only I can't download them. This is annoying since that means I can't add them to playlists. Given the NIN fanbase, I'm sure someone has somehow gotten this stuff available for dl, but I am a grown-ass woman and I really don't feel like fucking around with torrents right now.

    So is there just no way to just download them to my iPhone through Apple itself? I don't have a subscription to Apple Music, but from what I've read that wouldn't make a difference since that service is all about streaming, not downloading.
    You download content through the Music app on your iPhone directly. If it's already in your library, there is a symbol of a phone with a down arrow that downloads it to your local storage. You can also do it per individual song with the "..." button on the right.

    You can also navigate to their Connect page in your phone app and do the whole process there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sick among the pure View Post
    If you have iTunes, you can download them to your iTunes library directly from connect, and then I'm assuming could transfer the music files from iTunes to your iPhone. I don't know if you're able to download directly from the music app. I only played with apple music for 3 months because of the free trial, (and after that 3 months was up, I no longer needed to know about it for my job) tbh, so I don't know off the top of my head about downloading from it if you're not subscribed currently, and transferring music files from it to your phone. If that doesn't work for you, feel free to PM me and I'll look a little deeper into it.
    I tried looking them up on iTunes, but the instrumentals don't seem to be listed. Maybe I'm missing something, but I couldn't find them.

    Quote Originally Posted by seasonsinthesky
    I tried looking them up on iTunes, only the instrumentals don't seem to be listed. I can get to them through Connect on my Music app, but then I don't get an option to download-- just an option to upload them as a message or something, even if I click on the "..."

    You download content through the Music app on your iPhone directly. If it's already in your library, there is a symbol of a phone with a down arrow that downloads it to your local storage. You can also do it per individual song with the "..." button on the right.

    You can also navigate to their Connect page in your phone app and do the whole process there.


    Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. I just don't seem to have the option to download to local storage. It's really weird. I have the option to upload it to something (Airdrop or what have you), but no download.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenLeslie View Post
    I just don't seem to have the option to download to local storage. It's really weird. I have the option to upload it to something (Airdrop or what have you), but no download.
    If you added them to your library, clicking the playlist link (from Connect) in your iPhone Music app should show you this:

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    When I get to that display, I'm missing the icon you circled. I don't believe I've officially added the playlist to my library, but I don't seem to have the option to do that-- I can either play it or "Add to Up Next," but I don't believe that's adding it to the library.

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    Are you running the latest iOS update? They've been fixing Music stuff with every iteration, including this download scheme.

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    Hmm, I might not be. I'll check that out!

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