WT also brought in new fans because it was a popular album. Year Zero brought in new fans because of the ARG . Ghosts and The Slip brought in new fans because of the clever marketing stuff and LITS. Are these people not real fans to you, Bill?
WT also brought in new fans because it was a popular album. Year Zero brought in new fans because of the ARG . Ghosts and The Slip brought in new fans because of the clever marketing stuff and LITS. Are these people not real fans to you, Bill?
I agree with all of you. TDS and Fragile and PHM are total shit. Hand That Feeds is a fucking masterpiece and WT is the greatest album of Trents life. Slip set the standard for art and creativity. It was just pure fucking genius. Letting You and Discipline are the greatest songs the man has ever written.....
No one said that though, Bill...
I can't even count the number of my friends who became fans in the late 2000s, love recent NIN/the TRAR scores/HTDA, and were never fans in the '90s not even because of Trent's music but largely because of the exact people you're talking about and the stigma they brought to NIN fandom. So what's your point?
Guys, Bill likes Metallica.
i find this statement extremely offensive. i have been a huge fan for more that 23 years and if i am of the opinion that WT is better than the downward spiral i am clueless? why would my musical taste make me clueless as a fan? if i said with teeth contained the first song nine inch nails ever recorded then maybe i would be considered a clueless fan, but if i like one song or one album more than another that shouldn't matter. what a dumb thing to say. i also don't see how the same band that released songs like head like a hole or down in it could be considered "selling out" because they release every day is exactly the same or the hand that feeds. if anything with teeth was a return to form after "selling out" during the 90's.
i'm a fan since Pretty Hate Machine... and guess what? "With Teeth" is better than "The Fragile" is my opinion as a whole album experience, which "The Fragile" has too much bloat. "10 Miles High" is one of my favorite tracks from that era and pissed how it gets cut off on the CD. "And All That Could Have Been" should have been "The Fragile" album closer. Love "Underneath It All" but "Ripe (With Decay)" is a blah way to end it. "10 Miles High" and "AATCHB" should have been left on and get rid of other tracks. I don't really like the singles off of "With Teeth," (especially dislike "Everyday Is Exactly The Same") but the rest of the album is great and some of favorite NIN tracks are on it (ex: "Besides You In Time," "All The Love In The World," "Right Where It Belongs"). If "The Fragile" was cut down to one disc... then my opinion might change at which one is a better album. But for me, "The Fragile" is 50/50... amazing tracks and the rest is filler. "The Slip" sounds half finished, almost leftover demo material. And I do not like "Year Zero" or any of How To Destroy Angels stuff, which all sounds the same and one dimensional to me. I do love "The Downward Spiral" and "Broken" and both are perfect. "Hesitation Marks" wasn't too bad, a step in the right direction... but still not quite there yet... and at least it's better than anything on "Ghosts," "The Slip," "Year Zero," and "Welcome Oblivion" combined.
Bring on the hate...
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i hear ya, but my post was in response to the folks above arguing about what makes a true NIN fan... which is dumb argument to begin with.
and how folks either love one era or the other. kinda wanted to show not everyone can be lumped into groups for the sake of feeling superior.
Thought I'd ask here first before opening a new thread.
Does anyone know where to get the Limitless Potential remix compilation from 2007? Can't find neither a download nor torrent. I'd really like to give it a listen.
yeah, check out the tour journal entry
http://www.echoingthesound.org/commu...ria-Stadthalle
@wizfan Thanks, man!
Take a look at this clip, Trent's talking a bit about how they're filming the show and that they're probably not going to do anything with it.
By the way, I'm working on a full multi-cam edit of that show myself. I'm in the middle of uploading the first bunch of songs.
I feel like a massive ignoramus for asking this, but what type of goggles exactly is Trent wearing in Closer? Also recently seen on Christoper Daniels, for you fellow wrestling geeks out there. I'm determined to rock them for a Halloween NIN cosplay at some point. Possibly cross-era-dressing with the kilt-shorts (did they have a name?)
Just Google "Steam Punk Goggles". I bet you'll find something similar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closer_...g)#Music_video
Wikipedia says that they are "Aviator Goggles".
Yeah, I've now looked through the whole steampunk-welding-aviator spectrum. Thanks guys. This is the best I've found so far:
http://www.steampunkemporium.com/store/004946S.php
All we have is Santa's workshop, obviously. That's where I'll get the rest of the S&M supplies for my Closer theme. Just need to be a good boy this year.
Seriously though, we have all sorts of hardware stores. But I haven't leveled my craftmanship nearly enough to have any use for their stock. I think I'll be good with those closer-enough goggles as they are, unless someone's willing to help me out building them.
I'm pretty interested in Pre-NIN Trent (Option 30, Exotic Birds etc.), but I haven't been able to find afull Option 30 studio album torrent anywhere, and don't get me started on the outrageous prices that CD goes for. Does anyone know of a source for a DL? If someone does, a PM would be appreciated.
(I know that the album doesn't have a CC license, but from what I understand no one really owns the rights to it anymore so it technically wouldn't be stealing. I may be wrong about no one owning it, and if I am tell me about it.)
Now that the Reznors are back at home, I wonder if Trent is on diaper duty/potty training more often?
in the bonus video of closure, they show a small snippet of behind the scenes of the perfect drug music video, does anybody know what song plays during the start of that footage? vimeo.com/65914235 footage starts at 24:37