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    Were Fixed and Further Down The Spiral mistaken to be actual albums a bit more than I thought?

    I have sometimes read and heard that there were new fans getting into Nine Inch Nails at the time, long before The Fragile came out that thought that those were the actual releases instead of Broken and The Downward Spiral. It's understandable though, as the Internet wasn't the way it was now, but I have read stories about those two releases being mistaken for actual albums until they were listened to, and haven't really seen that happen to any other remix albums ever since, which also makes sense, because by the time The Fragile came out, Google came out in late 1998 and was already huge by the early 2000s, and Wikipedia came out in very early 2001.

    I was just reminded because I recall fans admitting that they thought Fixed and Further Down The Spiral were actual albums back in the day until they actual sat down and listened to them, when music wasn't anywhere near as accessible on the Internet, or even accessible to begin with at all back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halo Infinity View Post
    Were Fixed and Further Down The Spiral ...
    You noticed that TDS, Fragile, With Teeth etc. have no track titles visible on the outside, right? It's gotta be the reason people sort of preferred the recordings they had some information about. I mean, imagine going into the music shop in 90s, and choosing between the CD that you have no idea what's on it and the CD that clearly lists the contents. And i've never seen a TDS packaging with an advertisement such as "Includes Closer, March of the pigs and Hurt" - no, the customer is completely in the dark, except if they stumbled upon a review in a magazine or just word of mouth.

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    Does anyone know if Trent has ever commented on his contributions to the first two Jakalope albums?

    Despite the fairly savage opinions voiced on ETS from time to time, I quite enjoyed these (especially It Dreams). Not high art by any means, but quite a few hooks that have stood the test of time for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halo Infinity View Post
    Were Fixed and Further Down The Spiral mistaken to be actual albums a bit more than I thought?

    I have sometimes read and heard that there were new fans getting into Nine Inch Nails at the time, long before The Fragile came out that thought that those were the actual releases instead of Broken and The Downward Spiral. It's understandable though, as the Internet wasn't the way it was now, but I have read stories about those two releases being mistaken for actual albums until they were listened to, and haven't really seen that happen to any other remix albums ever since, which also makes sense, because by the time The Fragile came out, Google came out in late 1998 and was already huge by the early 2000s, and Wikipedia came out in very early 2001.

    I was just reminded because I recall fans admitting that they thought Fixed and Further Down The Spiral were actual albums back in the day until they actual sat down and listened to them, when music wasn't anywhere near as accessible on the Internet, or even accessible to begin with at all back then.
    The first NIN release I got was Further Down The Spiral, got it from a friend in a trade. I'm not sure I realized it was a remix album at first, as I didn't understand the concept. And yeah, since the interest wasn't really a thing for me until a few years later, I had no way of finding out who the people were that were named in the credits to put the pieces together. I still think those remixes of Mr. Self Destruct are some of the best TDS era remixes.

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    I got my first copy of TDS from a pawn shop and it was just the jewel case so no booklet, and besides Closer and MOTP I dint know what the song titles were for the first few months.

    Ahhh the simple times before teh interweb.

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    I'm 100% sure I've asked this before, and 100% sure I've forgotten the answer. Was this mashup one that someone on the crew did specifically for this show? I've found several versions, but none of them sound quite the same as this.



    Also, every time I see this I manage to forget how fucking funny it is to see shit flying at the start of Physical.

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    Hope this is the right place to ask this! I am looking for the original footage from Lights in the Sky 2008 that was used to create The Gift. I've read that it was about 450 gb of raw footage, but every single link I have found has been dead. I want it for editing practice and just because its an awesome piece of NIN history. If anybody can send me the footage or help me find it I would be eternally greatfull!!!

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    These are the original torrents:
    http://web.archive.org/web/201206300...ria_BC.torrent
    http://web.archive.org/web/201108090...and_OR.torrent
    http://web.archive.org/web/201206300...nto_CA.torrent

    But there is only a single tracker, tracker.nin.com, and that appears to be down.

    (Found through http://web.archive.org/web/200902101....php?52,378166 )

    (Don't forget to Digg it!: http://digg.com/music/NIN_releases_4...t_footage_via_ torrents )

    Here's the google results for various torrent mirrors and people talking about them:
    https://www.google.com/search?q="Nin...5_Victoria_BC"
    https://www.google.com/search?q="Nin...7_Portland_OR"
    https://www.google.com/search?q="Nin...Sacramento_CA"


    Also missing is the raw footage from the Las Vegas, which the TOIOU people said they would release after they finished editing, but never did. Unfortunately, the proof they ever said that was lost with the old ETS.
    Last edited by Shit Mirror; 12-27-2018 at 11:29 AM.

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    Feel free to point me to any current discussions about this, but what chance is there of a new live album coming out of the 2018 shows?

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    There's a chance a live album or even Blu-ray release will be announced, yes! Only never to be released or even mentioned again. Exciting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    There's a chance a live album or even Blu-ray release will be announced, yes! Only never to be released or even mentioned again. Exciting!
    Yeah, it'll be released right after the Wave Goodbye club shows, the Tension 2013 Blu-Ray, the rumored 2013-2014 compilation video set...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skullboy0 View Post
    Yeah, it'll be released right after the Wave Goodbye club shows, the Tension 2013 Blu-Ray, the rumored 2013-2014 compilation video set...
    Dont forget the Self Destruct pro shot.

    Or the live album from that era that artwork was commissioned (and completed) for.

    Im holding out for that hi def video anthology, with the full Sin video, original March of the Pigs, Day the world went away, Everyday is Exactly the Same and Everything videos too. Go ahead and add Broken in there for continuity sake. Include the performance versions of Gave Up and MotP as bonus content.

    I just want a videography as originally conceved!!

    edit: are there any more aborted video projects?
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    I have a funny feeling we might actually get a video for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SM Rollinger View Post
    edit: are there any more aborted video projects?
    NIN/Bowie concert film. The 30-minute Dissonance tour pro-shot footage that was posted on Vimeo like 8 years ago was a part of that.
    Some of London 2005 gigs were filmed (Astoria or Brixton, forgot which ones).

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    I have a funny feeling we might actually get a video for this one.
    Video is nice, and I understand the need because of how their stage act is, but I want a live album. I liked And All That Could Have Been as an audio document on it's own, and surprised it's not something that's been done more of outside the stuff leaked online.

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    Has Trent ever talked about why Home was cut from the With Teeth tracklist? It's one of my favorite songs from that era and it keeps being played live over the years while most of the songs of that record don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauro995 View Post
    Has Trent ever talked about why Home was cut from the With Teeth tracklist? It's one of my favorite songs from that era and it keeps being played live over the years while most of the songs of that record don't.
    I've never seen him talk about that, but it was on all kinds of WT releases either as a bonus at the end (CD) or between Sunspots and The Line Begins to Blur (vinyl), plus The Hand That Feeds vinyl single. He made sure we could get it easily even if it didn't fit the album or whatever.

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    Trent did say that he wanted With Teeth to be "twelve good punches in the face", and while I love Home, it kind of plods along and doesn't immediately jump out at you if you listen to it in the context of the album. I feel like Trent must have liked the song a lot, but wasn't able to fit it into the framework of the album, so it became a bonus track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SM Rollinger View Post
    edit: are there any more aborted video projects?
    Did I imagine talk of a Capital G video from back in the day? My memory recalls something about an official fan competition or something, but I could be (most probably are) mistaken. Also, if plans for the Capital G single by Interscope release went ahead as planned, without interference from from Reznor, wasn’t God Given planned to be single #3? Perhaps we would have gotten a video for that, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by muad'nin View Post
    Did I imagine talk of a Capital G video from back in the day? My memory recalls something about an official fan competition or something, but I could be (most probably are) mistaken. Also, if plans for the Capital G single by Interscope release went ahead as planned, without interference from from Reznor, wasn’t God Given planned to be single #3? Perhaps we would have gotten a video for that, too...
    I have a recollection of this from the old ETS as well. Supposedly, they were to select a winner from the fan-made videos, and then film a performance-like video with the contest winner video projected onto the band and the background wall. This info was from a photo of some internal Interscope memo or something like this, not from TR or Rob anyone else we know. And of course it got scrapped before the contest was ever announced.

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    Did TR ever legally change his name to Trent, or does his driver's license still say Michael?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Did TR ever legally change his name to Trent, or does his driver's license still say Michael?
    I'm pretty sure it says Josh Wink

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    I'm pretty sure it says Josh Wink
    That dead horse has been beaten so bad you're just pounding dirt now.

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    Seriously nobody knows?

    This has been bugging me ever since I saw the stuff from that storage unit over on the collection thread.

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    I feel like there isn't an answer currently. Trent's never been the most person.

    But I'd love to proven wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Did TR ever legally change his name to Trent, or does his driver's license still say Michael?
    TR's personal life is none of our business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    TR's personal life is none of our business.
    Sorry, but I find this holier-than-thou nonsense to be silly. "I must know everything about celebrity X" and "How dare you ask anything about celebrity X" are merely different flavors of sycophancy. And I'm sure your lifetime browser history includes zero visits to TMZ, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulerage View Post
    I feel like there isn't an answer currently. Trent's never been the most person.

    But I'd love to proven wrong.
    But who has been the most person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    TR's personal life is none of our business.
    Yes, asking the first name of our favorite artist is really prying deep into his personal life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    But who has been the most person?
    This has been happening to me a lot recently. I REALLY need to start double checking my posts.

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