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    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/...endorses-trump

    Mayor of only Muslim-run city in US endorses Trump for election

    Amer Ghalib, who leads city in battleground state of Michigan, says the Republican is the ‘right choice’, despite disagreements.

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    ^ not good

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/...endorses-trump

    Mayor of only Muslim-run city in US endorses Trump for election

    Amer Ghalib, who leads city in battleground state of Michigan, says the Republican is the ‘right choice’, despite disagreements.
    What a complete idiot.

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    It's a fundamentalist religious city. Many of their policies lean conservative, they were always going to go for trump.

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    With people from immigrant communities that are predominantly religious, it's often a toss-up over whether they'll go for the antiracist or with the antiqueer candidate. I see it in my family too.

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    Since there’s no thread about her on here (which is kinda surprising really), why not bring up the Chappell Roan controversy here. I don’t know exactly how she should have responded to being nagged for a political stance, but the way she responded sucked. This isn’t the time for equivalencies, or trying to save the world. The election is coming up in a little over a month, and if Trump wins, every liberally inclined thing you cherish will be fucked.

    So really, Chappell Roan talking about how the liberals aren’t good enough on transgender rights? I’m not even sure what that’s really rooted in, but this isn’t the time for it. After Kamala Harris wins, you’ll have a platform for that cause. If Trump wins, your cause will be obliterated.

    It feels like we’re in the trenches, trying to blow up the fucking Death Star, and somehow, over the intercom, we have someone complaining about how Princess Leia is a bitch, and her response to the Alderaan disaster was underwhelming.

    I have an opinion on how the Harris administration should address Gaza, the Ukraine… everything. There’s a lot of things that matter to me. I want to see them addressed by an administration that actually might care about them, and have a reasonable solution to international crises. But that’s a lot to unpack, and we don’t even have time to get into it at this point. Trump wants Israel to “finish the job.” He doesn’t seem to care that much if Putin wins the war with Ukraine. He’s threatening Iran right now with impending military decimation.

    We have 42 days til the election. Stay on target.
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    Mark Robinson has been suddenly hospitalized after a heart-related issue…

    Dont be surprised if this is cited as a reason for dropping out of the race, because…. I will be surprised if he’s not replaced somehow due to a health emergency…

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    I thought he was being treated for 2nd degree burns?

    And can he be replaced? People have died before and were still on the ballot.

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    "Let's just use these bricks from this warehouse fucked up by the hurricane to make me a podium/staging area for my speech..."

    wretched trumpstain....

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    Hot take after watching the debate in its entirety: it did more for the Trump / Vance ticket then the Harris / Walz ticket. 100% due to the fact that Vance is not Trump. That's it.

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    Donald Trump is gaining on Kamala Harris in the polls. I have some theories why

    Robert Reich

    How can Trump – the sleaziest person ever to run for president, who has already been convicted on 34 felony charges and impeached twice, whose failures of character and leadership were experienced directly by the American public during his four years at the helm – be running neck-and-neck with a young, talented, intelligent person with a commendable record of public service?

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    Has anyone read project 2025? I just get the impression it's the most dystopian thing out there. George Orwell is rolling in his grave. Everything Trump espouses is anti-American, and is the death of democracy. We would have a dictator rather than a president. I'd like to think there are people in this country who are powerful enough to make sure atrocities didn't occur. I keep having nightmares about Trump. I'm genuinely scared for this country, but moreover, I'm scared of the people who support him.
    Might as well kiss American democracy goodbye, and say hello to the autocracy and totalitarian system of government (so basically like Russia) that would exist with Donald Trump
    "And he signs his name with a capital D"

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    I thought Walz outperformed Vance by a longshot. JD was cool and collected in his answers, but they consistently reverted back to threats of "THEY'RE COMING OVER THE BORDER" or random-ass claims of "CENSORSHIP ON FACEBOOK." Doesn't matter how suave your demeanor is when what you're saying is just complete and utter bullshit.

    Vance not being able to say Trump lost the election was damning. This debate was basically set up to be Vance's potential ticket to the nomination in 2028, but let's be real ... he's going to be used as the scapegoat for why they lose the election when the Trump camp turns on him.

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    I'm a slow reader, and still in the process of reading this indictment, but CNN's coverage is appalling, and I know we've said it all along, but it really, really is.

    I'm watching Anderson Cooper, and they're concluded their talk about the unsealing of these indictments by saying that they don't think it's going to matter politically, because we already knew or could have inferred the things that are in there, but that young voters don't like Harris because of the war in Israel, and then return from commercial to go immediately to coverage of the war in Israel.

    There's proof in here that on January 5, Trump had just got out of a meeting with Pence, and Pence had explicitly and repeatedly told Trump he wouldn't do his bidding on January 6,then Trump immediately got onto twitter and told his supports that Pence was going to do what he wanted.

    And the details about just how significant and sustained the pressure campaign on Pence was to try and do this....and the way the pressure campaign mounted. There's back and forth in here, where Trump's lawyer tells Pence that he has the authority to do this, Pence's lawyer says he doesn't, then Trump's lawyers concede that Pence doesn't have the authority, but encourage him to do it anyways!


    I know we always say that you can't get through to Trump's supporters, but it's all right here in black and white that Trump explicitly states that it doesn't matter if he won or lost. His own lawyers admitted that Pence can't do the thing they said he could. There were many many meetings where Pence told Trump explicitly that he wasn't going to do what he wanted, and Trump still told his supporters that Pence would.


    Sorry, but I don't think there's as much in here that was already publicly known. It might be clear and obvious that something similar to this happened, but the details were foggy and left to a persons imagination. That fog has been cleared now.

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    I was speaking to a coworker and he said, "I just don't know which one is better." The thing is he's gay, like flamboyantly so, like "was part of a company-wide photo/awareness campaign" gay. Needless to say I was a little gob-smacked at that. So I asked about P2025 and he said he hadn't heard of it. I gave him just one piece of information: we are federal employees, the plan is to fire us all more or less immediately. He said that's not possible so I told him about Trump's Schedule F thing and how he would be bringing that back in force.

    I didn't say anything about orientation and whatnot because that one...if you don't know what Republicans stand for in that regard then are you really paying attention? What do they talk about in the meetings he's in? I know there's the Hatch Act but fuck that thing when it comes to your actual self. I'm breaking it right now by wearing a button ffs but I'll be damned if I let someone tell me my life is breaking a rule.

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    I don’t understand how anyone even feels like using the word “perform” (no offence to anyone here) in the same sentence as Vance. He just exists, just like trump does. The sooner this is all over the better.

    After all these pre-election assassination attempts, wouldn’t that make trump worried to actually be in the spotlight for another four years? I mean if there are targets on him now, imagine after the hypothetical fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    I don’t understand how anyone even feels like using the word “perform” (no offence to anyone here) in the same sentence as Vance. He just exists, just like trump does. The sooner this is all over the better.

    After all these pre-election assassination attempts, wouldn’t that make trump worried to actually be in the spotlight for another four years? I mean if there are targets on him now, imagine after the hypothetical fact.
    I'm reasonably sure that Putin lives in a bunker most of the time for that exact reason.

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    looking forward to putting this all behind in the next 30-33 days. I suspect it will be like 2020 and take a few days for a winner. very concerned though. the optimism I had is hanging on by a thread, and I hope over the next month it doesn't turn to pessimism or flat out nihilism.

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    I've turned full doomer

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    What happened to cause this pessimistic wave? Did I miss some news?

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    Pretty sure its just the honeymoon feeling for the DNC wearing off and now everyone's back to realizing how they're all living in a bubble and Trump still has a major major shot at winning.

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    this is a good indication of why I feel this way:

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    When Harris first got swapped in people were excited for something different than what Biden was doing but she's ultimately still his VP, and her ties to him are what's sinking her. His administration's disastrous foreign policy has directly enabled the deaths of tens of thousands of people and because they have spent the better part of a year chanting "deescalation" while never doing anything less than fully backing the country that has been escalating the carnage for the past year, that region has already begun being torn into a wider conflict, with scarcely a month until the election. Just the fact that the first question of the VP debate was "would you support a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran"... we live in hell. And rather than even distancing Harris's messaging on the issue from Biden's, this campaign seems resolved to think that endorsements from a gradual parade of every loathsome ex Bush administration official they could find will be persuasive to somebody, and that appearances with Liz Cheney are appealing to the voters that she needs to be appealing to. I know she's Biden's VP but non-suicidal campaign might project some difference because voters were excited for that. They were winning when they were leaning into the "these guys are weird" messaging and I guess some brain genius with the campaign decided that was too negative or some bullshit because they seem to be all in on this flat crap.

    Count me in with the doomers. I hope I'm wrong but I think Trump's going to win. It's going to be close enough that right wing fuckery in just one state may push him over. Like I said I really want to feel the incredible relief of the news that Kamala Harris is the president elect, but it's not looking great.

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    I think the doom is coming from a few things:

    1. Trump's bullshit has been normalized to an outrageous extent. The details of his indictment was nothing more than a blip that all the media ended up saying wouldn't impact the election. The VP debate showed what Trump with some polish and some of the rough edge taken off looks like.
    2. The ads Trump & co run are insanely demoralizing. I didn't used to see them, but I recently started watching football on fox, and I'm seeing the ads now. It's a constant extreme gaslighting. It's like they're in a completely different world.
    3. The Muskrat is making sure that twitter is constantly delivering that same gaslighting. He's like Trump's Joseph Goebbels.

    The whole idea is to mentally exhaust you and everyone else so that you eventually stop fighting and start believing the bullshit, or to simply give up and succumb to dooming out.

    Remember though, it's all bullshit, and you don't have to monitor it constantly. She's still holding a small edge in the polls, there isn't an actual reason to doom out at the moment.

    I said a while back, when Biden gave it up, the chances of it being a democrat win were 47%, according to 538. Currently, she's sitting at 55%.

    It's shifted both up and down a few times, it's been as high as 64%. She flipped it to make it more likely a democrat would win back on August 7th, and she's never relinquished the lead.

    She's still more likely to win than lose, but it's also still too close for comfort. So make sure you vote, and encourage anyone else who thinks similarly to vote too.

    That's really all that you have to do is vote. So take a break from the doom of the news for a bit and recharge your batteries.

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    Everyone is making good points. There are things about which to be hopeful, and things about which to be doomy.

    Harris is a very good candidate, and she is in front.

    Trump has, time and time and time and time again, done things that should not only remove him from consideration, but should put him in prison, and almost half the country doesn’t care.

    But there’s something else.

    I think that if Harris wins, even legitimately (which, of course, it would be), the chances of an armed uprising are high.

    They already tried to overthrow the government. Now, they’ve had several years to organize.

    I think there’s a chance that P2025 contains coded instructions for joining their movement. I saw a video of a guy talking about it, and he said that in it was the lesson to not use text/email/messaging when communicating about sensitive information. He said to meet in person.

    Regardless of that, even if P2025 is just an awful framework for their ideal government, there is still a possibility of violence with a Harris/Walz win. They don’t want to lose, they are told they only lose because the other side cheats, and they have more guns. They are marching in groups. They’re just not carrying their guns.

    The funny part is, though, that god is probably not on their side. If you ask me, god is liberal. The water of life flows freely. It does not trickle down. A thing god really despises is hate in the name of religion. Their side is full of that.

    I think the best thing to do is to be aware that violence could occur, but to know that we have a competent administration that can handle it, and they have backup.

    Things will be good, soon! There may be some tough spots, but we’ll make it through!

    HARRIS/WALZ 2024!!!

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    the positive thing is, if Harris wins, Biden is in the White House and in control of the military, unlike Jan 6. So I do believe things will be handled differently and thwarted.

    I expect small packs of militant type MAGA people throughout the country...but, I do expect it to be handled swiftly.

    A lot of MAGA is old and out of shape lol

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    the ones who are old and out of shape are the ones who are dumb enough to be in front of cameras. The boogaloo boys are the ones to worry about, the face mask and zip tie crowd.

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