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    It looks like the 9/10 debate on ABC is back on:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-hol...=1723144993293

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruined View Post
    It looks like the 9/10 debate on ABC is back on:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-hol...=1723144993293

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    It will be bigly!

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    Let's pre-game this shit



    EDIT: And I’m seeing how this is panning out, and Harris’ camp has run this debate standoff thing correctly, and I was totally wrong. They didn’t need to grab the debate at Fox, just wait for Trump to need the debate when his polls sink, and then force him to stick to the September 10th date.

    And it worked. I still think there’s a good chance that he’ll try to worm out of it at the last minute, but I don’t see him doing so without damaging himself further.

    He’s in a really bad spot, and I’m trying to not get carried away here… There’s still like 90 days to go…
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    Is there a place I can view this apparently wacky press conference that isn't Twitter or like Fox or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wretchedest View Post
    Is there a place I can view this apparently wacky press conference that isn't Twitter or like Fox or something?
    https://www.youtube.com/live/McXjpQF...-KOfZuugtVOt37

    he's so desperate for attention. he is cornered.

    oddly I'm not as optimistic as I was a day or two ago. could be because we've had bits of the hurricane so the sun hasn't been out. I watched this yesterday, and, maybe that's what put me in this space. like, we REALLY can't be complacent. (I know we here at ETS aren't, but society as a whole... )

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-p...ris-september/

    "So we have Sept. 4, Sept. 10 and Sept. 25. We have spoken to the heads of the network, and it's all been confirmed, other than some fairly minor details."
    Trump once again demonstrating that getting a woman's consent is something he considers a minor detail.

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    we'll see if he commits to it. since the Fox one is first, I see him doing that and then bailing on the other 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by versusreality View Post
    we'll see if he commits to it. since the Fox one is first, I see him doing that and then bailing on the other 2.
    Harris will most likely not take the bait on the Fox Thunderdome debate and do the first one on 9/10 with ABC. Based on how that one goes will likely decide if she does any others afterwards. I think a lot of it's going to depend on how the polls are looking in the swing states by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltrandazzo View Post
    Harris will most likely not take the bait on the Fox Thunderdome debate and do the first one on 9/10 with ABC. Based on how that one goes will likely decide if she does any others afterwards. I think a lot of it's going to depend on how the polls are looking in the swing states by then.
    Absolutely agree. She's not dumb enough to go into the Fox Thunderdome.

    10/10 on her moves thus far.

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    Trump screwed up. She doesn’t need to take the Fox debate. She shouldn’t touch it. It would be a trap, and he won’t show to the follow ups… if he does that, his followers won’t accuse him of being a coward; they’ll say he’s playing 4D chess.

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    have a feeling she won't show up to Fox, he won't show up to ABC, and NBC will be like "please, we'll take anyone!"

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    This swiftboating campaign against my boy Tim Walz is some bullshit. JD Vance has four years under his belt, is running with Admiral Bone Spurs, spent his time in the military as a journalist... and he has the balls to attack someone who served for 24 years?

    Never mind the fact that the details of this "stolen valor" claim are absurd. The military should be turning on JD (and Trump) for this. Where's the indignation and outrage? Factor in that one of the main people involved with this smear campaign is the guy behind the original swiftboat thing with John Kerry.

    What they're doing couldn't be more transparently bullshit. Anyone jumping on board with it should be ashamed. It's the worst kind of desperation.

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    you may appreciate this @Jinsai

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    MAGA has game plan to halt elections if Harris takes lead: report

    Stoddard continues, "Their goal: Refuse to certify anywhere — even a county that Trump won — and prevent certification in that state, which prevents certification of the presidential election. A Harris victory could become a nightmare."
    Stoddard notes that, according to Rolling Stone, "pro-Trump election conspiracists" in key swing states like Arizona, Pennsylvania and Georgia are working as "county election officials" and plan to refuse to certify the election results if Harris wins.

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    Well, this changes things.

    Kamala Harris has really risen to the moment. I keep getting chills. We’re witnessing something really historic, and I only see it building momentum. There’s a reason Trump’s mind is spitting out some stream of consciousness barrage about MLK. He’s starting to understand her as the emerging historical figure, what her victory in November would represent, standing in literal direct opposition to everything his movement stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Well, this changes things.

    He’s starting to understand her as the emerging historical figure, what her victory in November would represent, standing in literal direct opposition to everything his movement stands for.
    I think you said it. Think of what's at stake:

    1. Harris wins--That would be a bfd and could deliver a knock-out to MAGA. The administration could offer some real progressive policies. And I think the mood of a lot of the country would improve. Maybe people in red states would start to become more open-minded.

    2. Harris Wins, but Trump's goons in key swing-states don't certify the results and there's some bullshit and it goes to The House or the Supreme Court and Trump wins and becomes a fascist dictator.

    3. Trump wins- Possible, but becoming more remote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Well, this changes things.

    Kamala Harris has really risen to the moment. I keep getting chills. We’re witnessing something really historic...
    This. I watched the Arizona speech yesterday and found myself starting to tear up. The last time that happened was 2008 while watching Omaha being sworn in. I was living and teaching in Sweden at the time, and the Swedes I worked with all had a similar response: America is really looking like they're trying to live up to their ideals.

    May we continue forward.
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    Holy shit…he pulled a Turtle

    ...or not. I hate people.
    Last edited by allegate; 08-12-2024 at 09:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    Holy shit…he pulled a Turtle

    apparently, there was someone getting medical attention during this time period and he was waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by versusreality View Post
    I don't know if Trump will slip and call her the N word but I can see him saying something like she's "uppity" or she's a "bitch" .
    I called it:
    https://www.axios.com/2024/08/10/tru...s-bitch-report

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    Holy shit…he pulled a Turtle

    As much as I'd like to believe that, it does look like misinformation. https://x.com/2024DJT2024/status/1822118725413409064

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    Well it's on Twitter so it must be true

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    So, Trump is clearly not medically capable of making it through 4 years of a presidency.

    I know that nobody here is going to vote Vance for president, but it seems very clear that if Trump does win, we wouldn't get President Trump, they're going to 25th amendment him pretty quickly and we're going to get President Vance.

    All of those people who wrote Project 2025 (which Vance wrote the forward for) are ready to go to remove Trump, and then it's Vance's country.

    If anyone still talks to any Trump supporters, it might be worth pointing this out to them.

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    Also, Trump was hacked, supposedly by Iran:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...hacked-by-iran

    It's unclear what exactly is in these emails, apart from a 270 page document about Vance's vulnerabilities.

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    Ventura makes a great point about veterans...and endorses Harris/Walz

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1ke View Post
    apart from a 270 page document about Vance's vulnerabilities.
    There’s also some vetting dirt on Marco Rubio apparently.

    I dunno… Hopefully they don’t use this as a launching point to eject Vance from the ticket, because anyone would be an improvement for them.

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    Also just announced, he won't be campaigning for the next 2 weeks.

    So he took a week to only do phone calls, did 2? rallies (one where he froze for 30 seconds), and now needs two weeks off.....

    Why isn't the media giving him the same treatment they gave Biden after the debate? Talking about mental decline and his unfitness for office???

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/08/trum...barnstorm.html
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