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    Personally I think Watchmen was the first they had any jazzy elements, then Soul then Mank (although with Soul was Pursuit the only actual jazz scored by them?)

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    updated, more cleaned up version
    Last edited by Wulgaren; 02-10-2021 at 07:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulgaren View Post

    updated, more cleaned up version
    'Juno' should ABSOLUTELY be connected to 'Soul'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_guyet View Post
    'Juno' should ABSOLUTELY be connected to 'Soul'.
    What is top far left? Also TR&AR shortlisted for Soul and Mank in Academy Awards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastentrance View Post
    What is top far left?
    Walled Off Hotel...discussed here>> https://www.echoingthesound.org/comm...488#post351488

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdm View Post
    Walled Off Hotel...discussed here>> https://www.echoingthesound.org/comm...488#post351488
    Ah yes, thank you! Loved Green Lines, wish there was more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_guyet View Post
    'Juno' should ABSOLUTELY be connected to 'Soul'.
    right how could i forget that, i updated the previous post

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    The chart is kinda hard to read without the typical navigation captions (like "start here" (Social Network obv.), darker --> here, more melodic --> here, etc.)
    Also I feel like Welcome Oblivion is gotta be somewhere in there between GG and Dragon Tattoo because their sound palettes really overlap in many tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    The chart is kinda hard to read without the typical navigation captions (like "start here" (Social Network obv.), darker --> here, more melodic --> here, etc.)
    Also I feel like Welcome Oblivion is gotta be somewhere in there between GG and Dragon Tattoo because their sound palettes really overlap in many tracks.
    Agreed. This was going to be my suggestion as well.

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    well its not really meant as a guide, just a map of interlinks i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulgaren View Post
    well its not really meant as a guide, just a map of interlinks i guess
    I think @fillow just meant that including some sort of short commentary of why things are connected might make it easier to follow or help others to make more sense of it. Even if it's just one or two-word descriptors like: "Ambient," "Calm/Peaceful," "Anxiety-inducing," "Digital," "Organic/Analog," "Big Band," "Heavy/abrasive," "piano-based," "synth-heavy," etc.

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    iíll try!

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    David Fincher is directing an assassin movie titled The Killer for Netflix (the first project of his exclusive four-year deal he signed with them) with Michael Fassbender being eyed for the lead role. I'm excited by the sound of all of that, but it also got me thinking how likely it is that he'll tap TR & AR for the score again! I'm hoping they're already on board for the score and that we get more of the aggressive kind of stuff we got in the Watchmen score!

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    With TRAR getting two nominations at the Oscars, I hope it doesn't work to their disadvantage with votes for them essentially getting split and them ending up with nothing. It's happened to people before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otnavuskire View Post
    With TRAR getting two nominations at the Oscars, I hope it doesn't work to their disadvantage with votes for them essentially getting split and them ending up with nothing. It's happened to people before.
    I love both scores, but I honestly think Soul is a juggernaut that can’t be stopped, I hope it does win as well for Jon Batistes sake! I think both Soul and Mank have been nominated in other awards too where Soul still won (were they both nominated at the Globes?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    I love both scores, but I honestly think Soul is a juggernaut that can’t be stopped, I hope it does win as well for Jon Batistes sake! I think both Soul and Mank have been nominated in other awards too where Soul still won (were they both nominated at the Globes?)
    Yeah, they were both nominated at several other awards ceremonies in which Soul won, so it's not likely to cause problems here.

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    So Operation Varsity Blues dropped on Netflix yesterday, in part scored and fully music produced by Atticus.
    It's a good doc, and I'm interested to hear people's opinions on the music.

    edit: the other composers are Leopold Ross and Nick Chuba

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    Gunna be honest... I have no clue how to use this lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Wulgaren View Post

    updated, more cleaned up version

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    you donít use it, you FEEL it

    lol, its just a spider web of musical connections. iíll get around to redoing it sometime

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    Gotta love the jumbled mess that is Spotify and last.fm when listening to TR/AR... so last week I apparently listened to 29 TR tracks, 41 AR tracks and only 19 credited to "Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross"...

    Seems like Gone Girl and Dragon Tattoo are the only scores, where Spotify seperates Trent and Atticus. Is there a reason why? The numbers above don't necessarily add up either...

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    Don't know where to post this, but last year's icelandic Netflix show "The Valhalla Murders" not only reminded me very much of "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" or a general Fincher asthetic, but also the soundtrack by Petur Thor Benediktsson. He finally released it on Spotify and I hope there's a physical release along the way. Anyhow, if you enjoy TR/AR's work you will get a kick out of it, I guess:

    https://open.spotify.com/album/5JrBv...TeShXZioN_SWaQ

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    I really hope we get one of those classic NIN.com store drops of the full Waves and Patriots Day vinyl releases soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reznor2112 View Post
    I really hope we get one of those classic NIN.com store drops of the full Waves and Patriots Day vinyl releases soon.
    I can see Patriot's Day maybe happening because, well, they announced it... sadly I think the Waves score and even Ghosts V–VI are going to remain digital-only for the foreseeable future. There's too much backlog at the pressing plants to make room for three sorta specialist electronic instrumental double albums, much as I love them all. They would almost have to break up "Wounds Heal" over two sides of vinyl, though... there's a pretty natural spot for a side break 'round about 7:44, I think, but they'd need to fade it out and back in on the next side where the last two tracks would fit with the second part on the final side.
    Last edited by botley; 08-12-2021 at 09:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    I can see Patriot's Day maybe happening because, well, they announced it... sadly I think the Waves score and even Ghosts V–VI are going to remain digital-only for the foreseeable future. There's too much backlog at the pressing plants to make room for three sorta specialist electronic instrumental double albums, much as I love them all. They would almost have to break up "Wounds Heal" over two sides of vinyl, though... there's a pretty natural spot for a side break 'round about 7:44, I think, but they'd need to fade it out and back in on the next side where the last two tracks would fit with the second part on the final side.
    I mean, if Alessandro is still having his stuff put out on vinyl, TRAR/NIN certainly could get their scores and Ghosts out as well. Yes, it would take a while. But they could get the ball rolling at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otnavuskire View Post
    I mean, if Alessandro is still having his stuff put out on vinyl, TRAR/NIN certainly could get their scores and Ghosts out as well. Yes, it would take a while. But they could get the ball rolling at least.
    Yeah, the difference there I think is that Ale signed with a label, where that's possibly making it easier (most record labels have standing orders, and preferred status because of their existing relationships with pressing plants etc.)... but independent releases? Not saying they CAN'T do it, but clearly other stuff is taking priority right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by otnavuskire View Post
    I mean, if Alessandro is still having his stuff put out on vinyl, TRAR/NIN certainly could get their scores and Ghosts out as well. Yes, it would take a while. But they could get the ball rolling at least.
    The issue with Ghosts V and VI is that they may have been formed out of their score for The Woman In The Window, which is owned by 20th Century Fox, which is now owned by Disney. I admit that I'm not certain about the legality of the whole thing given the fact that it's been released for purchase on a few sites, but it seems like something that's very under-the-radar at the moment, and considering that it's been over a year since it was released, I don't really see them doing a re-release of it down the road, especially if there are legal hurdles to doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    The issue with Ghosts V and VI is that they may have been formed out of their score for The Woman In The Window, which is owned by 20th Century Fox, which is now owned by Disney. I admit that I'm not certain about the legality of the whole thing given the fact that it's been released for purchase on a few sites, but it seems like something that's very under-the-radar at the moment, and considering that it's been over a year since it was released, I don't really see them doing a re-release of it down the road, especially if there are legal hurdles to doing that.
    Nothing NIN does is "under the radar." If there were any issue with releasing that legally, it wouldn't have been released at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otnavuskire View Post
    If there were any issue with releasing that legally, it wouldn't have been released at all.
    Trent released Non-Entity and Not So Pretty Now without Interscope's permission (he admitted as much in the fan Q&A he did around the time), so it's not unheard of. The fact that it was released for free, and only as an MP3 release, tells me that it wasn't something that the powers that be officially signed off on, or if they did, they did it was certain caveats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    The fact that it was released for free, and only as an MP3 release
    It was not. It was also released commercially for purchase in all formats on most retailers. It's also on all streaming services, which is revenue-generating. This is nothing like Non-Entity or NSPN which were released promotionally. Or Closure or the Broken Movie which were done under-the-table because the label wouldn't give them a real release.

    Also, it's speculation that these came from The Woman In The Window. Reasonable speculation, perhaps, but speculation nonetheless. Even if that were the case though, since they have an official release, you can bet that all the legal issues are cleared. You'll notice it's © The Null Corporation, not © 20th Century Fox. When they withdrew from the project, most likely they made an arrangement like, "you don't have to pay us, and we'll keep all the music we wrote."

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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    I can see Patriot's Day maybe happening because, well, they announced it... sadly I think the Waves score and even Ghosts V–VI are going to remain digital-only for the foreseeable future. There's too much backlog at the pressing plants to make room for three sorta specialist electronic instrumental double albums, much as I love them all. They would almost have to break up "Wounds Heal" over two sides of vinyl, though... there's a pretty natural spot for a side break 'round about 7:44, I think, but they'd need to fade it out and back in on the next side where the last two tracks would fit with the second part on the final side.
    I see Wounds Heal as a single side with no splitting -- it would be on its own but would fit. Especially because its a quieter track, there would be no issue fitting it onto a single 33 1/3rpm side.

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