Will Smith punching Chris Rock

[Jinsai]

might have been because we were watching from a rewound point in the broadcast. As soon as Will Smith slapped him it went nuts. Was also via Hulu's TV streaming thing, so maybe that's part of it

and yeah, that Moonlight screwup is pretty close in shock value, but in a different way I guess. That was actually really tragic, to see these people think they'd all achieved this thing only to have it taken away from them. Then to see the winners come and accept their reward in that context. It was really screwed up.

[botley]

Why Smith was not removed: https://variety.com/2022/film/news/why-will-smith-wasnt-ejected-from-oscars-chris-rock-slap-1235217098/

Well, the last line of that article says it all. Weinstein and Polanski still have all their Oscars.

[Erneuert]

[TheBang]

smith issued a well written apology. it sounds good. he apologizes to all the right people but it feels a little hollow. rich and powerful men often are able to skirt responsibility by saying sorry and not doing anything else.

It says all the right things, but it's also clearly wordsmith'd by his PR team. I doubt he actually feels the remorse expressed in the apology and would not have issued it if not for the need to try to damage control his reputation.

[Erneuert]

The amount of YouTube memes appearing is lol.

[mfte]

[GulDukat]

It says all the right things, but it's also clearly wordsmith'd by his PR team. I doubt he actually feels the remorse expressed in the apology and would not have issued it if not for the need to try to damage control his reputation.

I doubt he wrote it or had anything to do with it.

[Jinsai]

ok, this one is good....

[elevenism]

It's Will's acceptance speech that makes me think it's 100% real.
He was crying, and relating everything to being pissed off at Chris Rock: it kind of sounded like "my character would have done it," with a dash of "i'm real fucking crazy as of late."
These speeches are forever. I really doubt he wanted his acceptance speech to be remembered in that manner.

Also, i've screamed "keep my girl's name out of your fucking mouth" and "keep my name out yer fucking mouth," in moments of SEVERE ego driven anger.
I know that feeling, and loss of control. It's like your manhood is being tested, or some dumb shit like that, and you have Random Temporary Testosterone Rage Syndrome.
It was just too real.

I think the only way this was staged is if we're talking hardcore conspiracy theory, like illuminati/masonic "humiliation ritual," which is KIND of tinfoil hat territory.
Edit: i just searched and, holy fuck, people are actually saying that's what happened. :P

But i mean, even if someone was going with THAT insanely improbable hypothesis, well, i'm a huge Chris Rock fan, and i've heard him speak against fraternities and old boys clubs on more than one occasion. Therefore, I don't see any chance of him participating in any weird masonic thing.

This shit was real.

Big Willy is in an odd place, emotionally, i think,

[sweeterthan]

after reading this thread yesterday, i came to the conclusion that people think it’s stage because smith wasn’t removed from the event.

(and probably because it happened on tv)

we’ve all been at an event where the violent asshole gets thrown out. its the norm for that situation. so dumb that no one thought to get him out only coz they’re sticking to the script.

[Jinsai]

I think it's just that we're all conditioned to watching these things go along as (strictly) planned. This goes for any "cordial event" like a fundraiser or anything like that, especially a show that is known to play jokes on the audience. If someone had done this to Ricky Gervais after one of his really heavy insults during his hosting the Golden Globes, everyone would have run to the same first conclusion; that must have been staged.

It's immediately easier to believe that it was staged than to think that Will Smith has that little self control, but just because that seems (for whatever reason) more believable doesn't make it true.

[d1stinct]

I don't care if it was staged or not, I also don't care if he was escorted out, tasered, whatever, doesn't really matter. What matters is, IMO, is that his reaction was appropriate, Chris made a joke about his wife, Will gets defensive for his wife, Will decides he needs to do something about it, Will gets up and decides a nice slap on the face is appropriate for someone making jokes about his wife, if I was WIll Smith, I might've done the same thing, or maybe I would have snatched the mic out of his hand and told Chris off, I dunno, but I think Will is fine for slapping the shit out of Chris Rock, lol.

[Erneuert]

[Jinsai]

so, apparently this just broke, that the Academy asked Will Smith to leave the event, and Smith refused.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/m...txX7zfiv38kKu8

[marodi]

Edit: Jinsai beat me to it. Oh the pun!

Also: I can't type to save my life today. Woe is me!

[elevenism]

... his reaction was appropriate, Chris made a joke about his wife, ... if I was WIll Smith, I might've done the same thing...

I mean, I feel you? That's how I was raised: if someone disrespects your wife/mother/sister, you smack the shit out of them.

But I've been trying REALLY hard to avoid acting that way for the past 10-15 years.
It's best to let things ride for several reasons, one of them being that, especially these days, that sort of behavior can send you to county jail for a hot minute.

More importantly, it's just better for everyone in general. It would be better if people didn't beat other people over words.
I feel like I've seen society evolve in that direction little by little in my lifetime, and it's nice.

That sort of old school attitude is the reason these alleged space aliens keep dropping by, but not introducing themselves: they're probably thinking "good god, I sure wouldn't wanna KICK it with those motherfuckers!'

[sweeterthan]

i can’t see the article because of the paywall but it’s still so strange that security wasn’t an issue for him.

[marodi]

i can’t see the article because of the paywall but it’s still so strange that security wasn’t an issue for him.

Try this https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...gs-1235122743/

I'm thinking they did not want to escalate things. I don't think he'll be back at the Oscars anytime soon... if ever.

[Erneuert]

https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...0c352005578e10

Video of Will Smith warning TV host after he called wife Jada ‘beautiful’ resurfaces

A 2010 interview of Will Smith on a Spanish talk show has emerged on Twitter – warning the TV presenter to be careful what he says about his wife Jada.

[ickyvicky]

^^ sheesh

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

A tad off topic, but this wasn't televised?? Still cannot believe this was his first as well.

[Jinsai]

Has anyone brought up the time that Will Smith slapped some guy who was a sort of Sascha Baron Cohen character for kissing him on the cheek?
I don't even know how to look this one up right now, but this was some big deal, and Will Smith smacked the guy in the face.
Also, Donald Trump applauded that moment and thought it was "great."

Meanwhile, I'm just going to say... I've always thought Will Smith sucked, his movies suck, that stupid television show sucked, his hip hop super sucked, and as someone who worked in a karaoke bar, "Parents Just Don't Understand" is the shittiest thing that has ever happened to mankind. Fuck him, I see nothing redeeming about him or his stupid bullshit, and I don't get why he's this national treasure, when really he can eat shit and fuck off forever and my world would be slightly improved.

EDIT: Here it is, promoting MIB3... Can someone tell me why we all loved this fucking guy? All his movies suck, all his music sucks, everything about him SUCKS

[Volband]

To think that it was staged is the most (not a typo) illogical logical thing to do. It's logical, because it's the Oscars and it's two actors, but illogical, because unlike with the already mentioned nip-slip at the superbowl, it would have been terribly staged. The curses are muted, so the Jerry Springer effect is gone. The confrontation ends immediately, when you could have had them faking some weak ass shove and pull where security has to intervene. Chris would not have been slapped as hard if this was staged. The guy got teary eyed from the adrenaline and said no zingers afterwards; why would you stage a confrontation then leave your "protagonist" hanging?

Not to mention that Will is everything but fine mentally at the moment, and he has some seriously unhealthy relationship with his wife. Will was either fine or at least pretending to be fine with the joke first, then Jada, like some dog handler popped him off. There is a video where you can even see Jada cheering for the slap. If this was staged then it would've been showed on the main cam as well; but it wasn't, Jada is just like a piece of shit, similar to Will.

[elevenism]

...
Meanwhile, I'm just going to say... I've always thought Will Smith sucked, his movies suck, that stupid television show sucked, his hip hop super sucked, and as someone who worked in a karaoke bar, "Parents Just Don't Understand" is the shittiest thing that has ever happened to mankind. Fuck him, I see nothing redeeming about him or his stupid bullshit, and I don't get why he's this national treasure, when really he can eat shit and fuck off forever and my world would be slightly improved...

WHOA whoa whoa. I say goddamn, @Jinsai . Will and Jeff were hip-hop pioneers.

I can see not liking Parents Just Don't Understand, but Brand New Funk and Here We Go Again, for instance, are tracks i've been listening to on a regular basis since i was seven years old.

Acting is debatable, sure. And he's obviously got some nasty personality traits.

But you can't take away his contributions to hip hop, and his place in the history of the culture. I mean, arguably, Jeff was the most important part of this equation- ever see him at a old school massive at 3am or whatever? And it's Jazzy Jeff (and the Fresh Prince), not the other way around.

But still, it was Will on the mic, who hyped the whole.thing up.

I've been loving this shit for 35 years.

[allegro]

everything about him SUCKS

I really loved Will Smith in "Six Degrees of Separation" and "Independence Day" (the latter I've seen at least 20 times).



I also like Gettin' Jiggy Wit it.

[botley]

I also like Gettin' Jiggy Wit it.

Best thing I can say for that song is that King Crimson made an excellent, if facetious, use of the title:

[Erneuert]

He’s actually coming across a lot like Russell Crowe did with the anger/attitude.

FOIGHTIN’ ROUND THE WERLD!

[elevenism]

He’s actually coming across a lot like Russell Crowe did with the anger/attitude.

FOIGHTIN’ ROUND THE WERLD!

LOLZ. Oh shit, man. That made my day.

Makin' movies, writin' song and foightin' round the werld!

Also, @botley , there ain't nothing wrong with Gettin' Jiggy With It.

And even if you don't like it, you can add the fact that it spawned this priceless scene in Next Friday to your list of good things about it.

[Erneuert]

[Erneuert]

Next Saw film - Chris Rock casts someone with Will Smith’s likeness and puts them in the goriest trap imaginable, lol.