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Thread: If I Canít Have Love, I Want Power - new Halsey album produced by Trent and Atticus

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    Quote Originally Posted by neorev View Post
    I've seen rated R movies in theater when I was 10.
    I was 7 when I saw Terminator 2. When I was 10, Carlito's Way, A Bronx Tale, etc. My brother was 7 years older than me. We usually went together.
    My parents honestly did not give a shit what we watched or listened to.
    That was a different time, most theaters don't roll like that anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmitchell86 View Post
    That was a different time, most theaters don't roll like that anymore.
    Kids these days will find a way to watch it whether it is in theaters or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    So released in theaters...does this mean there's a surround mix of the album coming as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by paul_guyet View Post
    My ATMOS-sense is tingling...
    I'm curious to see if when the first single drops it gets the ATMOS tag on Apple Music. Could be a good indicator.

    I'm hoping for a blu-ray with both the movie and the album's multichannel mix, but I have to remember that this isn't a NIN album, despite it's production.

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    well as someone who saw a multi-platinum-selling artist release an album in Atmos last year in theaters and then never announced a blu-ray - and has been waiting for The Fragile 5.1 for way too long - I'm not holding my breath at all.

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    At first I thought: "Cool, an unexpected collaboration." Then I saw the video/artwork and thought, "Huh, this is getting really interesting." Now with an IMAX film? I love that these artists truly went all in on this project. To be clear, I'm not surprised that Trent would ever go all in on anything, but, wow. I'm really excited to experience this entire piece of art as it continues to roll out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmitchell86 View Post
    That was a different time, most theaters don't roll like that anymore.
    Theaters will let kids into R-rated films as long as they're accompanied by an adult. The only time they can't is if it's rated NC-17/unrated, but most major theaters won't show those kinds of films anyway.

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    Yeaaaah, the more I find out about this the more it makes sense that Trent's involved.

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    The video was interesting, and the music sounds good.

    Minor grumble: It was a bit disappointing to see the clichť of the mother birthing whilst lying on her back. The ubiquity of this position is a relatively modern phenomenon, that became common in the 20th century because it was most convenient for doctors (forget about how terrible the position is for the mother, who then has to work against gravity and her coccyx). But in the times in which this film is apparently set, an upright position would have been the norm - most likely a squat. Anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    The video was interesting, and the music sounds good.

    Minor grumble: It was a bit disappointing to see the clichť of the mother birthing whilst lying on her back. The ubiquity of this position is a relatively modern phenomenon, that became common in the 20th century because it was most convenient for doctors (forget about how terrible the position is for the mother, who then has to work against gravity and her coccyx). But in the times in which this film is apparently set, an upright position would have been the norm - most likely a squat. Anyway...
    most likely the trials women face during pregnancy and childbirth are part of the story.


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    Yes I think so. I guess I think it might send a stronger message to show her birthing in a more natural position - which I'm sure would be a bit shocking for many because we're all so used to the way birth is typically portrayed - but obviously I haven't seen the film and know nothing of the broader context of that scene.

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    she has two albums in atmos so this one will be as well i bet

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    If the album is tied to a IMAX longform video, does that basically mean that there will be a Deluxe Version with the movie included somewhere down the road to double dip on?

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    I'm super excited for this but the more i think about it the more I hope it's not Halsey singing over TR+AR soundtrack style instrumentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulgaren View Post
    she has two albums in atmos so this one will be as well i bet
    What's the other one?

    https://www.dolby.com/experience/halsey/

    Her entire catalog is available in MQA, but (Manic) is the only one I know of in Atmos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    I'm super excited for this but the more i think about it the more I hope it's not Halsey singing over TR+AR soundtrack style instrumentation.
    That's the vibe I got from the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    I'm super excited for this but the more i think about it the more I hope it's not Halsey singing over TR+AR soundtrack style instrumentation.
    I doubt it will be just that. She's still a pop star who earns a living making singles that get tons of radio play. If you look at Beyonce's Lemonade or Janelle Monae's Dirty Computer, they're narrative pieces with an overarching story, but they still have fun pop music videos in the middle (some of which aren't even trying very hard to fit into the narrative).

    IICHLIWP seems to be more committed to being a cohesive film than those examples, but I could still see it having room for some pop music / music video stuff. I'm specifically thinking of the shots of her and her friends drinking and carrying on. That could operate as a fun standalone pop video out of context, but then in the context of the film it's just a calm before the storm to show us what's being taken away from her when bad thing X happens.

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    Took a lot longer than I hoped it would but the LE gold vinyl from the main website finally sold out. Still no indication of the run size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekrekel View Post
    Took a lot longer than I hoped it would but the LE gold vinyl from the main website finally sold out. Still no indication of the run size.
    I’m not sure this has expectations of a surefire pop hit album, sounds too weird and dark for that. Which is kind of a shame as I was hoping for the fulfillment of the parallel universe alluded to in Kennedy’s memoir (where Madonna said to Kennedy she was phoning Trents studio for a collaboration but he wouldn’t respond) where Trent produced a Madonna album rather than the ugly clown album that we got. A much better timeline that would have been

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    What's the other one?

    https://www.dolby.com/experience/halsey/

    Her entire catalog is available in MQA, but (Manic) is the only one I know of in Atmos.

    fountain appears to have atmos for me (though i only have walks could talk and dont play added so it could be a case of only few songs being in atmos)



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    Amoeba already printed my shipping label for this. Hmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neorev View Post

    My parents honestly did not give a shit what we watched or listened to. My dad used to work at an electronics store and had a guy at work who would get us the latest movies in theaters on tape in high quality well before its official release. My dad got us illegal cable that let you get all the pay channels, including Pay Per View and the dirty channels. I saw Showgirls when I was 12 years old. No one gave a shit. No wonder children these days are all fucked in the head from being overly protected and shielded from everyday life.
    Children these days can watch everything from ISIS beheadings, to drug cartels ripping people's hearts out while they're still alive, to any imaginable form of pornography, on a device they carry in their pocket. Hell, they might even catch a live stream of a mass shooting if they act fast. Not to mention, tablets with Netflix and the like are regularly used as babysitters.

    Kids may be shielded from playing outside all day without having to check in and such but I'd argue that with access to content meant for adults, including REALLY depraved porn and Not Safe For Life gore content, it's very much the other way around.

    ANYWAY, sorry for drift.

    So, this Halsey: is she usually good?

    The trailer looks fucking great. @tony.parente , I think this is going to be more cohesive, musically. Some of those lines in the video sound like they come right before the beat drops, you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Children these days can watch everything from ISIS beheadings, to drug cartels ripping people's hearts out while they're still alive, to any imaginable form of pornography, on a device they carry in their pocket. Hell, they might even catch a live stream of a mass shooting if they act fast. Not to mention, tablets with Netflix and the like are regularly used as babysitters.

    Kids may be shielded from playing outside all day without having to check in and such but I'd argue that with access to content meant for adults, including REALLY depraved porn and Not Safe For Life gore content, it's very much the other way around.
    A couple posts after that, I wrote "Kids these days will find a way to watch it whether it is in theaters or not" because, like you said, kids have access to everything.

    You know, when I originally wrote the post you quoted, there was a second half that I ended up deleting because I was avoiding going too deep, but it probably would've helped explain what my post meant. I went on about how kids will see all this stuff either way no matter how protective a parent is. And how being way too overprotective actually leads to kids becoming more distant and secretive from their parents, further developing their ability to lie to them, because they feel they can't discuss something with them. They hide the stuff they see, stifling the ability to discuss and process some of the adult things they experience as a kid with their parents. This is an important aspect of growing up and developing into a person being smothered and avoided (ignored) by parents who just want to shield a kid from the world. They saw something they weren't supposed to see, so they're not gonna approach their parents to talk about it. This is what my remark about kids being screwed up by their overprotective parents' fruitless attempt to shield their kids was about. My parents could care less about what I watched, but I also didn't feel afraid to approach my parents about something, no matter the subject. You would hope that if your child was confused or fascinated or negatively affected by something they saw, they would come to you to talk about it rather than be afraid you will be mad at them for watching something they weren't supposed to see, thus keeping it from you.
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    Just found this clip (apparently from another site). This sounds pretty great and nothing like what I would have expected. Kind of a Fragile vibe:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/halseyupd...545275905?s=21

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    I've found 8 variations so far:

    ē Life continues YOU SURVIVED [leads to LIMITED EDITION BANDANA & CD BOX SET]
    ē You drank from the WRONG GLASS AND HAVE BEEN POISONED
    ē You drowned in A FREEZING LAKE [leads to 17seconds.mp3]
    ē You fell off YOUR HORSE AND WERE TRAMPLED TO DEATH
    ē You have been BURNED AT THE STAKE IN THE TOWN SQUARE
    ē You suffered POSTPARTUM HEMORRHAGE AND BLED TO DEATH
    ē You were GUILLOTINED BY THE ROYAL COURT
    ē You were locked up IN THE DUNGEON AND STARVED TO DEATH

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