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    Quote Originally Posted by sticksandhair View Post
    BUT Nautica stage is a GREAT venue so it's worth it. If you're driving it's easy, there is parking near the venue. I would NOT walk alone to a hotel at night, girl or guy. Hotels may appear close when looking at a map, they are not.
    Thanks for the info, this is super helpful! This will be my first time in Cleveland, and have my travel all squared away, but am still researching lodging and logistics for the nights of the 20th, 21st and 22nd.

    Looking at the map - and barring anything crazy - it should be pretty easy to get from Nautica to the Amtrak station, yeah? I have a train to catch at 1:54am on the 24th so I figure I'll just head to the station after NIN wraps up. Assuming there's a curfew and NIN won't play any later than midnight...

    I also get in at about 3am on 9/20, so if anyone has any suggestions for someone fresh off a 11 train trip, I am ALL ears.

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    Looking for a single PIT ticket for Thursday in trade for a first row Tuesday seat, DM if interested!

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    Quote Originally Posted by makepacer View Post
    Thanks for the info, this is super helpful! This will be my first time in Cleveland, and have my travel all squared away, but am still researching lodging and logistics for the nights of the 20th, 21st and 22nd.

    Looking at the map - and barring anything crazy - it should be pretty easy to get from Nautica to the Amtrak station, yeah? I have a train to catch at 1:54am on the 24th so I figure I'll just head to the station after NIN wraps up. Assuming there's a curfew and NIN won't play any later than midnight...

    I also get in at about 3am on 9/20, so if anyone has any suggestions for someone fresh off a 11 train trip, I am ALL ears.
    Do you have a bike? Or can you bring a bike? If so, the easiest thing for you to do would be look up Cleveland Lakefront Bikeway. You can catch it near the station and get to The Flats on that, and look for wherever you want to stay near that bike path. If no bike, not sure. Depends where you will stay and things like that.

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    Finally got around to booking a hotel room today. Still in disbelief that I was able to get a pit ticket for the Tuesday show during the first NIN presale. I've been trying to get a Cleveland pit ticket for NIN since like 2008. Pit tickets sell out in like seconds and I never got the chance until now



    See y'all in the pit on 9/21
    And for the love of all things holy PLEASE perform the Left Album of the Fragile Trent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makepacer View Post
    Looking at the map - and barring anything crazy - it should be pretty easy to get from Nautica to the Amtrak station, yeah? I have a train to catch at 1:54am on the 24th so I figure I'll just head to the station after NIN wraps up. Assuming there's a curfew and NIN won't play any later than midnight...
    The 1:54am train to DC? That looks pretty tempting since you can book a private room on there, compared to booking another hotel night and a return flight back. I wonder whether the station has baggage storage that you can retrieve at that late hour.

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    I'd even be happy to get a few deep cuts from The Fragile, like Please, Just Like You Imagined, or No, You Don't. I've also never seen Into the Void or the rarely played We're in This Together, both of which I'd be really pumped to see played.

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    Keep in mind that overall, TR tends towards being pretty conservative with festival setlists. We're all hoping for the deep cuts, of course, but I'd recommend making sure you're in a mental place to be happy with a setlist which is mostly Just The Hits. He seems pretty aware that a lot of the audience at events like that are mostly just there to hear HLAH and Closer, etc. pff, and if I looked more closely, I'd've noticed that this isn't in a Festival thread. Sorry. Tabs are hard.

    (That said, I wouldn't put it past them to debut at least a few new tracks on these dates -- here's hopin'!)

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    I think more than anything, I want to witness the live debut of The Idea of You (my favorite NIN track of the trilogy, maybe even the past decade).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    I think more than anything, I want to witness the live debut of The Idea of You (my favorite NIN track of the trilogy, maybe even the past decade).
    didnt they try to play it during the 2018 shows?


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    Quote Originally Posted by xolotl View Post
    Keep in mind that overall, TR tends towards being pretty conservative with festival setlists. We're all hoping for the deep cuts, of course, but I'd recommend making sure you're in a mental place to be happy with a setlist which is mostly Just The Hits. He seems pretty aware that a lot of the audience at events like that are mostly just there to hear HLAH and Closer, etc. pff, and if I looked more closely, I'd've noticed that this isn't in a Festival thread. Sorry. Tabs are hard.

    (That said, I wouldn't put it past them to debut at least a few new tracks on these dates -- here's hopin'!)
    Riotfest in 17 they played The Background World for the first time, so it's possible.

    But festivals, especially these modern rock ones, TROZ is gonna play it safe. The Cleveland shows however I would expect some deep cuts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    didnt they try to play it during the 2018 shows?


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    They did not. The Idea of You, Not Anymore, Play the Goddamned Part, and I'm Not From This World have yet to be played live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    I think more than anything, I want to witness the live debut of The Idea of You (my favorite NIN track of the trilogy, maybe even the past decade).
    I wanted this so bad at one of the festival shows in 2017 I could feel it in my bones.

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    I'm also buzzing with excitement about these shows. Dragging hubs along, as usual. I think this will be shows 10/11 for him... 19/20 for me. He loves NIN, but not in the way I do, so... he's a good sport for always being up for it & coming along with. I was born in Ohio and have not been back since I was a baby, (military brat), so even though this wasn't exactly top of my list of places to see, I'm actually still curious to check it out.


    We get in the 20th. Hope to check out the RRHOF on Wed 22nd during the day, and then catch the Indians/Royals game that evening - unless another show gets added, of course. I think I booked us at Hotel Indigo, just because it was a good rate and not far from the venue, (little over a mile)... might change that later and get something closer to venue.


    Seems like best time/place for a group meetup would actually be at RRHOF on Wednesday? Everyone could check out the NIN exhibit and maybe grab lunch afterwards somewhere nearby? Those who have already checked it out could maybe stop in just for the lunch, if they don't feel like doing the other again. My two cents. I get too amped up in the hours right before a show to want to do anything but go anxiously wait in line.

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    Really hoping to make these shows. Can’t believe I struck out at every level of the on-sales. Probably should’ve went aftermarket before the prices got so out of hand. Now for patience...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sticksandhair View Post
    Do you have a bike? Or can you bring a bike?
    That didn't even occur to me. I have a very small commuter bike that would actually be pretty easy to bring on a train/bus trip... thanks for the idea and the info!

    Quote Originally Posted by buckets of lube View Post
    The 1:54am train to DC? That looks pretty tempting since you can book a private room on there, compared to booking another hotel night and a return flight back. I wonder whether the station has baggage storage that you can retrieve at that late hour.
    I booked regular-ass-regular seats, but think I'll be trying to upgrade to a sleeper car for the train back to DC. I haven't been able to find specific amenities that the Cleveland station has, other than an enclosed waiting area. Lockers would be dreamy so I don't have to stash my luggage in a bush for the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by magnolia View Post
    Hope to check out the RRHOF on Wed 22nd during the day, and then catch the Indians/Royals game that evening - unless another show gets added, of course.
    This is loosely my plan for the 22nd as well - I love going to ballparks I've never been to. RRHOF has been on my bucket list, and I might also check out the aquarium, or just wander around the city. Assuming no third show will be booked for Wednesday, I was also thinking about finding a campsite on the lake outside of the city for that day and night to mitigate lodging costs, as I am trying to be as frugal as possible for this trip (i.e. so I can focus my money on food and NIN merch).

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    EDIT: In response to Magnolia


    Hi. IMO you picked a good spot (Hotel Indigo). It's perfect for going to a game. To get to the venue is easy from here, even if walking you're not going to have to go thru anywhere really sketchy (like deserted sketch). It's a busy safe area. IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by makepacer View Post
    I haven't been able to find specific amenities that the Cleveland station has, other than an enclosed waiting area. Lockers would be dreamy so I don't have to stash my luggage in a bush for the day.
    Gonna try to call the station in the next week to find out.



    Currently have nights booked at the Holiday Inn Express downtown. Is that in a decent neighborhood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by makepacer View Post
    This is loosely my plan for the 22nd as well - I love going to ballparks I've never been to.
    We do, too! Trying to check all 30 of the MLB parks off our list at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by sticksandhair View Post
    EDIT: In response to Magnolia


    Hi. IMO you picked a good spot (Hotel Indigo). It's perfect for going to a game. To get to the venue is easy from here, even if walking you're not going to have to go thru anywhere really sketchy (like deserted sketch). It's a busy safe area. IMO.
    Thank you for your input! It's always really nice to have a local's perspective.
    Last edited by magnolia; 05-21-2021 at 09:22 AM. Reason: clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckets of lube View Post
    Gonna try to call the station in the next week to find out.



    Currently have nights booked at the Holiday Inn Express downtown. Is that in a decent neighborhood?
    This is/was a busy area. There's a walking street E.4th that's a popular hangout area (corner alley etc) Eucid Ave. was under major construction but I think it's done. It's "Playhouse Square" area all the historical theaters are over there. But this area was heavily damaged during last summer protests (RIOT) I haven't been downtown since that. Is there anyone else in here that has and can chime in? I think I will go take a ride down there soon and see. Maybe this weekend and let you know. There's a restaurant over there called The Marble Room, that is supposed to be Thee restaurant in Cleveland right now so there's probably security around because wealthy important people go there lol. Also someone mentioned Kimpton, that is supposed to be a cool place, and it's across the street from The 9 which is Thee place for athletes and coaches are known to stay in condos there... so security. The rooftop bar there is cool.

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    Scooby doo ghost town update:

    It's a scooby doo ghost town. lol.
    Sadly, it's dirty again, like trash on the sidewalks and streets. The areas that have landscape are not being taken care of. I have never seen the city look so shitty since the 80-90's. It was really looking good the last 15+ years. Out of town people were surprised by how clean and nice it was down there. Maybe it will improve by Sept. The protest damage is fixed, however it looks like several businesses' were not able to survive the pandemic throughout the downtown area. EVERYWHERE needs staff. Help wanted. As far as hotels, the places you guys mentioned in here are fine. That whole corner area from Indigo past Schofield to Holiday Inn was the busiest part of the city (game day yesterday) Any hotel down there is probably fine, the problem is transportation if you're not driving. I was told that getting an uber at this time is nearly impossible. Drivers haven't come back since pandemic. Maybe that will get better by Sept. Yes, you can walk to places, but I wouldn't walk far at night. Go to the google map street view and you can look at your route from Nautica to wherever you're staying. I wouldn't stay at the Renaissance Hotel, it's supposed to be nice but it's in public square, which looks like the armpit of the city right now and that area is known for problems (in front, and side of the casino and terminal tower). If you want to get around faster than walking I noticed those rental scooters are numerous. Not many bikes at this time though. If you like bars and breweries, personally I would go to W.25th near the Westside Market. That area is more locals hangout, less expensive and looks up and running well again. There is construction there though, a new apartment building being built next to Westside Market so it will still be that way in Sept. Area called Ohio City. There are numerous ABNB over there I've heard. Market Garden, Bar Cento, Bier Market, and Nano Brew all updated their indoor air ventilation w/ sanitized UV air filtration. Most bars there have outdoor seating also. Nautica is an easy 1-2 mile down the street. Personally, I LOVE Velvet Tango Room they make the best drinks I have ever had in my life! But they are 15$, I heard they are now 18$, happy hour used to be 10$. And these 3 guys play soft jazz, it's nice. Everything except the cost. I would recommend the Rock Hall if you've never been there. Lakeview Cemetery (love it) and specifically Wade Chapel in the Cemetery, there is a Tiffany window in there called Flight of Souls, so beautiful. Whole cemetery beautiful. Art Museum, Cleveland Orchestra, baseball game, and NIN concert! woo can't wait! Best of CLE IMO.

    Maybe if there was at least 30 people, a lolly trolley could drop everyone off after concert. Their tour boarding is next to Nautica stage. I think if you have 38 people private rental is 20$ a person. I asked a few people if they would walk to a downtown hotel after a show and they all said no. Oh, if you look on a map, at the end of the Nautica parking lot at Elm st. there is an uber/ lyft pick up spot. Might be less crowded than the Main St. loop pick up. If there's drivers again in the future.

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    Thanks for the update! Since I'm flying in, I'm now thinking of just renting a car for the occasion. It would make things cheaper from a lodging standpoint as well, as I could book hotels that are not located downtown.

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    If you're flying into Hopkins and looking for a room between there and downtown the only place I wouldn't stay would be the hotel on Brookpark Rd. or the hotels on W. 150th. If I had to make a choice I would probably stay at one (I think there's 3) on Tiedeman Rd. From there you wouldn't even have to go on the highway to get to Nautica. Tiedeman to Memphis to Pearl Rd. (which turns into W.25th also called 42) then right down into the flats. If you want to go anywhere else, you're staying right on 480 which can easily get you anywhere with the connects to other highways. We have poor public transportation, but very efficient highway system.

    Hotels off 71 fine too, 71 will get you anywhere with connects. But not the hotels on the streets I mentioned, sketch. Some areas you drive through on W.25th (42) will look sketchy but fine to drive through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sticksandhair View Post
    If you're flying into Hopkins and looking for a room between there and downtown the only place I wouldn't stay would be the hotel on Brookpark Rd. or the hotels on W. 150th. If I had to make a choice I would probably stay at one (I think there's 3) on Tiedeman Rd. From there you wouldn't even have to go on the highway to get to Nautica. Tiedeman to Memphis to Pearl Rd. (which turns into W.25th also called 42) then right down into the flats. If you want to go anywhere else, you're staying right on 480 which can easily get you anywhere with the connects to other highways. We have poor public transportation, but very efficient highway system.

    Hotels off 71 fine too, 71 will get you anywhere with connects. But not the hotels on the streets I mentioned, sketch. Some areas you drive through on W.25th (42) will look sketchy but fine to drive through.
    Oh damn, I was looking at the Wyndham Cleveland Airport hotel since I could use rewards points in full, but that is right on W. 150th. Thanks for the heads-up. I'll look at those on Tiedeman Rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckets of lube View Post
    Oh damn, I was looking at the Wyndham Cleveland Airport hotel since I could use rewards points in full, but that is right on W. 150th. Thanks for the heads-up. I'll look at those on Tiedeman Rd.
    I believe Wyndham has a hotel in their chain on Snow Rd. in Brookpark but not much around there. and Middleburg Hts. they are both safe areas. Middleburg has many restaurants very close, a big new Fatheads Brewery, super safe area. Right off 71 at Bagley.

    Also Wyndham Chain
    ETA: Strongsville, 71 at Route 82 (Royalton Rd.) very safe area too. Lots of stores, restaurants around also.
    ETA: La Quinta in Independence right off 77. Good spot too.
    ETA: Also Country Club Blvd. off 480 North Olmsted.

    I just looked at the La Quinta on W150th I think it's very new and looks really nice. It's not a horrible area. Are you a guy? lol. I just wouldn't be walking around the area at night or like getting gas at night. It used to be an ok area, I have a friend who lives right near that rapid transit station her whole life and she's fine, but area has declined in time. The Marriott over there turned sketch.

    ETA: lol I'm sorry maybe I should mind my own business, it looks like Wyndham took over the Marriott I guess. The Wyndham Airport address is the same as the Marriott, so maybe it's Ok now. Idk. In the past it was the not good people who were going to the bar in there.
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    One more thing, then I will mind my own business lol. You probably know this idk, wherever you stay I would try to get rental car from that area rather than airport, it will cost WAY less. For instance if you stayed on Tiedeman, get free shuttle from airport, then on Brookpark Rd. (Brookpark Rd. + Tiedeman Parma) there's 3 rental car places, it's safe to walk there, or hotel would probably shuttle you, the rental places are 1-2 miles from hotels there. Ok bye, I'm sorry for constantly butting in. You people that travel to an unknown city alone to go to a concert are hardcore! I admire that. But I worry lol, just trying to help.

    ETA: Call ahead everywhere you want/ need to go. Pandemic causing a lot of places to go out of business and/ or change hours of operation. Everywhere. Sad.
    And always go the speed limit and the police won't bother you. And medical marijuana only is legal here, but if you smoke and don't have a card be careful in public and don't smoke in hotel rooms and if you do get caught it's a 100$ fine, you won't go to jail. lol
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    @sticksandhair Thanks so much! I really appreciate it. Yeah I'm a dude and I'm not expecting to put myself in risky situations, but certainly cannot be bothered to deal with car break-in's and similar matters. My main considerations are good wifi and work spaces in the hotel (for remote work during the day), as well as a car rental place that can accommodate me taking a 6am flight on Friday. I'll look at all your suggestions.

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    Ok so here I'm shooting my shot:

    If anyone here has tickets for either or both shows at a reasonable price (less than what the resellers websites are doing), please message me!

    (I would definitely prefer to be on the Floor, but other sessions are okay too.)

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    fwiw, I like the idea of a Wed RRHoF meetup at a specific time and then we all gush over the NIN exhibit together, followed by lunch somewhere (beer garden style place perhaps so the # of people don't matter?)

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    To add to sticksandhair's advice, Ohio City is one of definitely one of the best areas near downtown. W 25th street is one of the top areas for bars, restaurants and nightlife. The West Side Market is a fantastic local landmark that's worth a visit if you're into food, it's been operating for over 100 years. Ohio City is also close to the Tremont neighborhood, which is where Cleveland's modern restaurant scene got it's start (Michael Symon's original restaurant was started there).

    You will definitely need a ride to get to the show from Ohio City. If you're flying in, though, you can take the local metro train (RTA) direct from the airport to W 25 St.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moebius View Post
    To add to sticksandhair's advice, Ohio City is one of definitely one of the best areas near downtown. W 25th street is one of the top areas for bars, restaurants and nightlife. The West Side Market is a fantastic local landmark that's worth a visit if you're into food, it's been operating for over 100 years. Ohio City is also close to the Tremont neighborhood, which is where Cleveland's modern restaurant scene got it's start (Michael Symon's original restaurant was started there).

    You will definitely need a ride to get to the show from Ohio City. If you're flying in, though, you can take the local metro train (RTA) direct from the airport to W 25 St.
    I would not exist if not for the West Side Market. My father's dad and my mother's dad both had meat stands at the market in the late 50's early 60's, that's where my parents met.

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