Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 38

Thread: The Reason Why "Hurt" is a hated track among the fans.

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    27
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    The Reason Why "Hurt" is a hated track among the fans.

    Hello again.

    I noticed throughout the forum and a lot of NIN fans in the social media, and after a lot of thinking I found why the people hates the song.

    THE FUCKING ENDING OF THE SONG

    Yes, a lot of people (including me) feels uncomfortable of the creepiness of the ending of the song. I can noticed that Trent forced to finish the record like someone is disturbed while founding the protagonist of the album on his own blood and so on and so forth. I know that it was a clever move of him to say "fuck the ballads, I WANT YOU THAT AFTER THE FUCKING ALBUM YOU GOT THE WORST EPILEPSY IN THE WORLD AND I DON'T CARE IF YOU DIE AFTER THE SHOCKING ENDING".

    And that's why I think is the main reason of why so many people hates the song, even if it is the second or third most "popular" song in the album.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Chekhov, Russia
    Posts
    1,991
    Mentioned
    46 Post(s)
    Angry sniper is angry, huh?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    27
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    No not that much LOL, I was actually going to clarify that I almost cry of the shock after listening to the song the first time I heard it.

    This is me after listening to the song for the first time
    Last edited by angry_sniper1990; 08-08-2015 at 02:07 AM.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    London
    Posts
    5,111
    Mentioned
    204 Post(s)
    ...I was not aware a single person hated Hurt.

    If you're talking about the musical cacophony at the end, may I suggest you get Hurt (Quiet)? It's on many releases, TDS Deluxe is best though for everything else on it, and it's essentially the same but without that ending.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Joined (old ETS): 01 Sep 2004 -- Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    7,357
    Mentioned
    282 Post(s)
    I wish there was a Lights In The Sky (Loud).

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    France
    Posts
    2,083
    Mentioned
    148 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdean View Post
    ...I was not aware a single person hated Hurt.
    Yeah me neither. Some people are tired of Closer and Hurt being inevitable staples of concerts, at worst.

    For one, I fucking love the Hurt ending. It's absolutely perfect.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Youngstown, OH
    Posts
    239
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    I wouldn't say I hate Hurt, but I never really go out of my way to listen to it. In the context of the album, and as the conclusion to the TDS "story," it's perfect, but I'd never put it on a playlist or anything.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    canaderp
    Posts
    1,526
    Mentioned
    52 Post(s)
    I like it much better between "Eraser" and "The Downward Spiral" on the Self Destruct tour, but not enough to hate the song.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    246
    Mentioned
    21 Post(s)
    That ending is probably my favorite part of the song. I certainly don't hate hurt and I can't say I've ever met a nin fan who does, but I will say I don't listen to it often. I think perhaps that is because it works best as the end of a musical experience, be it a playthrough of TDS or a live show, and less well as a stand-alone song.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    4,509
    Mentioned
    232 Post(s)
    I've never heard people on here saying they hate the song. Just that they're tired of it closing every concert.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Ontari-ari-ario
    Posts
    4,986
    Mentioned
    198 Post(s)
    I don't hate "Hurt", I hate people at NIN shows who try and fail to clap along with the beat throughout it.
    Last edited by botley; 08-08-2015 at 09:46 AM.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Republic of Texas
    Posts
    7,431
    Mentioned
    532 Post(s)
    hurt makes me wanna kill myself. so does SICNH.
    but i don't dislike it.
    i HAVE heard it one two many times and i thought it was fucking awesome that LITS was closed with In This Twilight

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    440
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    It isn't disliked by fans. Hope this helps!

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Everett, WA
    Posts
    720
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by emptydesk View Post
    It isn't disliked by fans. Hope this helps!
    Customer Service, is that you?!

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    3,444
    Mentioned
    53 Post(s)
    I know I hate it. Why did Johnny Cash have to write such a terrible song?

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    837
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    I know I hate it. Why did Johnny Cash have to write such a terrible song?
    Now that really hurts . . .

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Republic of Texas
    Posts
    7,431
    Mentioned
    532 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    I know I hate it. Why did Johnny Cash have to write such a terrible song?
    I think you're doing, like, what? Meta sarcasm?
    Double irony?

    Anyway, I'm back from the future to let you know that Cash's version was the cat's ass.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    1,040
    Mentioned
    36 Post(s)
    I'll never forget when my partner recorded a friend singing this in 2020, and they send it to me and said, "it's a nine inch nails song, but Johnny Cash covered it, and this is a cover of that."

    I just texted back: "Do you even know me?"
    I let it go because....COVID I guess.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Posts
    726
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    What a thread very insightful. NIN fans hate loud moments in music and sudden increase of dynamics, thank God Hurt is the only song that ever did that in the discography, ever.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Cresskill, NJ
    Posts
    204
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Only thing I have against the ending of Hurt is that it usually means the concert is over.

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    florida
    Posts
    815
    Mentioned
    48 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkIcouldburn View Post
    Only thing I have against the ending of Hurt is that it usually means the concert is over.
    Now this is a fact I can get behind. As far as fans hating Hurt, news to me. I would argue there is more "dislike" for Closer than there is for Hurt

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    1,708
    Mentioned
    59 Post(s)
    i donít hate it either but i havenít really enjoyed listening to it in awhile. i also feel like closing with that song instead of hLAH is kind of a downer. i will say that song exploder episode changed my perception of the song. i also recall trent saying that he plays it for the one fan thatís never heard it live. his intention is to connect with that fan and thatís fucking beautiful.

    what i donít like is when iím wearing a nin shirt and someone says something about johnny cash. yes itís a great cover. i liked it in 2004 but reznor has done a ton of amazing things since cash covered the song. rarely ever do the johnny cash people know anything else about reznor.

    i was wearing my nin hat a few months ago at the park and a dad came up to me asking about my hat and told me he watched song exploder and was listening to the new ghost tracks. this was such a fun exchange because i often feel isolated from the park moms. they barely talk to me and not one has ever mention my nin gear. NIN fan moms, where are you?

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    1,378
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    i also feel like closing with that song instead of hLAH is kind of a downer...i also recall trent saying that he plays it for the one fan that’s never heard it live. his intention is to connect with that fan and that’s fucking beautiful.
    Co-signed. I'll be honest, I've dipped from amphitheater shows during Hurt to beat the parking lot logjam. I like it, I appreciate the song and the sentiment but it just doesn't excite me anymore. That's ok to me.

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    3,329
    Mentioned
    64 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cdm View Post
    Co-signed. I'll be honest, I've dipped from amphitheater shows during Hurt to beat the parking lot logjam. I like it, I appreciate the song and the sentiment but it just doesn't excite me anymore. That's ok to me.
    But what about when he made the exception to the rule closing with In This Twilight throughout the YZ tour? He made the exception then so he can surely continue to make exceptions going forward. Can you imagine a concert ending with a completely live version of Leaving Hope followed by a brief pause, into an almost acoustic rendition of Underneath It All?

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    1,378
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    But what about when he made the exception to the rule closing with In This Twilight throughout the YZ tour? He made the exception then so he can surely continue to make exceptions going forward. Can you imagine a concert ending with a completely live version of Leaving Hope followed by a brief pause, into an almost acoustic rendition of Underneath It All?
    Yeah but that didn't happen. I knew they were closing with Hurt so I left. If there had been a chance for something else I'd have stayed. And if he pulled a rabbit out the hat once on the tour...shame on me.

  26. #26
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    3,329
    Mentioned
    64 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cdm View Post
    Yeah but that didn't happen. I knew they were closing with Hurt so I left. If there had been a chance for something else I'd have stayed. And if he pulled a rabbit out the hat once on the tour...shame on me.
    it did happen,

    last song: ITT with Zero-Sum piano outro - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-...-5bd7a3f8.html

  27. #27
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    1,378
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    it did happen,

    last song: ITT with Zero-Sum piano outro - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-...-5bd7a3f8.html
    It did not happen on the tour I'm referring to (summer 2014). I did not attend a show on the Lights In the Sky tour but if I had I would not have left knowing there was a song to follow.

  28. #28
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    3,329
    Mentioned
    64 Post(s)
    Oh, gotcha.

  29. #29
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    2,525
    Mentioned
    28 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    it did happen,

    last song: ITT with Zero-Sum piano outro - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-...-5bd7a3f8.html
    I saw that happen too. It made me wish they would've played Zero-Sum SO bad, though. I think it's a (slightly) better song than In This Twilight (still love In This Twilight, though). Regarding Hurt, I personally don't know anyone who dislikes it either. I still enjoy seeing them play it live, though I would welcome a different song to close the show. I've seen them 9 times and they've closed with Hurt every time except on the With Teeth tour in 2005 when they ended with HLAH, which was a pretty great way to end the show Ė with a blast of energy and another song that EVERYONE there knows the words to.

  30. #30
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    4,704
    Mentioned
    273 Post(s)
    Its because we all know when head like a hole happens there's only 3 songs left in the set. its why we all sort of get sad with HLAH, THTF or Hurt are played.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions