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    Has Nine Inch Nails created the concept of "industrial" with sounds of machine ?

    Here what I think : Trent was a huge fan of Bowie.

    Bowie used to change his style every new release/album and Trent got the inspiration from that

    Nine Inch Nails is an anthology like the tv show american story or Black Mirror : every season/episode is different but with some constants (in the case of NIN : trent's voice (except for ghosts) and a moog)

    For TDS, Trent had that "industrial" vibe with the machines (Reptile). Now, every other bands with dark and machines sounds is defined as "industrial"

    But was Trent the first one ever to invented the "genre" ? I cannot find things like this before him. You can quote ministry or skinny puppy but they did not have that "machines" "cogwheels" sounds in it.

    Here is another example of a really cool song with dark industrial machines by example : https://open.spotify.com/track/739I7bqUbxDu7vkjz1k8iE?si=WnjGBxwrRZCrrA44JChdyA
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    No he didn’t create industrial


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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewTDaC View Post
    No he didn’t create industrial
    Can confirm.

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    See also: Throbbing Gristle

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    I always thought Josh Wink created industrial

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    See also: Luigi Russolo's manifesto 'L'arte dei Rumori' (The Art of Noises) from 1913.

    He created an instrument, the 'Intonarumori', which was played in Futurist orchestras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnetic View Post
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    Cant forget what Ministry did during the 80's

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    Ya'll can't see it's a ploy to get you to open that Spotify link? LOL

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    Pretty sure Einstürzende Neubauten used machine sounds waaaay before NIN...

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    Quote Originally Posted by henryeatscereal View Post
    Pretty sure Einstürzende Neubauten used machine sounds waaaay before NIN...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnetic View Post
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    i mean they literally coined the phrase "industrial music for industrial people"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    Ya'll can't see it's a ploy to get you to open that Spotify link? LOL
    Ha! That wasn't in the original post. No matter - I went ahead and fixed it.

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    Industrial music was around long before Nine Inch Nails came onto the scene. To be honest, I feel like NIN's music only caught on because of Trent's ability to weave pop and funk influences into the mix, and even that wasn't particularly innovative. He just knew enough to make it work and strike a chord (no pun intended) with listeners.

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    Trent didn't even make Industrial music,he made Industrial Rock/Electro-Industrial, there is a huge difference between these terms, that is like saying Sonic Youth popularized "Noise" music when you mean Noise Rock. A lot of people tend to get frustrated with how missued the term "Industrial" is, since it doesn't describe most of the music people are talking about.

    The earliest, most "Industrial" thing I think Trent has made was the Quake soundtrack, some moments off Ghosts I-IV and basically entirety of Locusts is Dark Ambient and falls into Industral quite often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxbow8 View Post
    Here what I think : Trent was a huge fan of Bowie.

    But was Trent the first one ever to invented the "genre" ? I cannot find things like this before him. You can quote ministry or skinny puppy but they did not have that "machines" "cogwheels" sounds in it.
    KMFDM used vacuum cleaners back in the early 80s...that's a machine.

    Also, read this for further education on industrial music: https://www.amazon.com/Assimilate-Cr.../dp/0199832609

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