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    Here's the official site addressing the scarcity of the BLA releases.

    https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2021...entures-update
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    Bowie's estate really fucked this live archive thing up royally, between the scarcity issues, obligatory price-gouging and Sandbag-levels of poor customer service horror stories circulating out there. I was already scratching my head from the beginning with the incomplete Dallas '95 set, but that tour was legendary to me so I bought it regardless. Then watched the price skyrocket on the secondary. As soon as I saw the Birmingham '95 show was missing "Boys Keep Swinging", they lost me; the complete show is in the Outside Tour 1995 UK Leg boxset, which I've owned for years anyway. And it just kept repeating with every subsequent release, most of which have circulated in trading circles for decades now anyway..

    Instead, I spent my money on this recently: https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-...lease/10131240

    It's unofficial, but it's rare as fuck and is about the most comprehensive set containing the 1994-1995 Outside demos we'll likely ever see. I listened to all five hours of it today and got lost in this music. Such great shit. Bowie at his weirdest and most experimental, stretching out and jamming for 20 minutes at a time on some passages. It's no wonder his record labels at the time wanted nothing to do with it. It sounds like you really just had to be there to understand what was happening in that room at the time..

    If Iman ever decides to release an official boxset of this stuff and it's comprehensive, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Outside was my first proper introduction to Bowie all those years ago and remains his favorite period of mine. Wasn't there a rumor Bowie and NIN professionally recorded that entire tour leg they did together? I would buy every show of that tour if they were made available, sight unseen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    Wasn't there a rumor Bowie and NIN professionally recorded that entire tour leg they did together? I would buy every show of that tour if they were made available, sight unseen..
    I don't know about entire leg, but they did film a show for a video release, which was shut down at editing stage due to no financing from the label.
    If whoever owns that stuff now decided to revive that release now, I'm sure NIN and DB fanbases would crowdfund it and reach the target in 0.00005 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    Bowie's estate really fucked this live archive thing up royally, between the scarcity issues, obligatory price-gouging and Sandbag-levels of poor customer service horror stories circulating out there. I was already scratching my head from the beginning with the incomplete Dallas '95 set, but that tour was legendary to me so I bought it regardless. Then watched the price skyrocket on the secondary. As soon as I saw the Birmingham '95 show was missing "Boys Keep Swinging", they lost me; the complete show is in the Outside Tour 1995 UK Leg boxset, which I've owned for years anyway. And it just kept repeating with every subsequent release, most of which have circulated in trading circles for decades now anyway..

    Instead, I spent my money on this recently: https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-...lease/10131240

    It's unofficial, but it's rare as fuck and is about the most comprehensive set containing the 1994-1995 Outside demos we'll likely ever see. I listened to all five hours of it today and got lost in this music. Such great shit. Bowie at his weirdest and most experimental, stretching out and jamming for 20 minutes at a time on some passages. It's no wonder his record labels at the time wanted nothing to do with it. It sounds like you really just had to be there to understand what was happening in that room at the time..

    If Iman ever decides to release an official boxset of this stuff and it's comprehensive, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Outside was my first proper introduction to Bowie all those years ago and remains his favorite period of mine. Wasn't there a rumor Bowie and NIN professionally recorded that entire tour leg they did together? I would buy every show of that tour if they were made available, sight unseen..
    I love Leon too, but that was a waste of cash. All of the music is contained in the three suites (disc 2), which are available in this exact form for free. The rest of the tracks are leaked bits of that same music, and some fan fuckery with 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonsinthesky View Post
    I love Leon too, but that was a waste of cash. All of the music is contained in the three suites (disc 2), which are available in this exact form for free. The rest of the tracks are leaked bits of that same music, and some fan fuckery with 'em.
    Except it wasn’t a waste of cash, because I wanted the physical product and I enjoy physical media. I own the Leons suites in numerous formats as standalone items and none of them sound anywhere near as good as what’s on this box set. Digital content means fuck all to me when there is a physical format available, even if it costs me a little money..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    Except it wasn’t a waste of cash, because I wanted the physical product and I enjoy physical media. I own the Leons suites in numerous formats as standalone items and none of them sound anywhere near as good as what’s on this box set. Digital content means fuck all to me when there is a physical format available, even if it costs me a little money..
    I don't think they'd ever be this cool, but I'd LOVE to get a clean, definitive version of these in the next boxset.

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    Hmmm, pretty sure Dallas and Birmingham '95 are complete on the official releases. I have compared them directly to audience recordings and the only difference was some of the crowd cheers were cut, so I think you have bad intel, @Prettybrokenspiral . It's only the Kit Kat show that's lacking the full set of songs, of the six Brilliant Live Adventures — and that might be simply because they don't have the complete recording anymore.
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    The Making Of 'Dancing In The Street' - Bowie/Jagger

    https://www.marksaunders.com/blog/20...et-bowiejagger

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    The Making Of 'Dancing In The Street' - Bowie/Jagger

    https://www.marksaunders.com/blog/20...et-bowiejagger

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    I'd figured "the making of" for THIS video, or whatever led these two to their...chemistry, in this video, would have been against YouTube's Terms of Circus...😂

    But all jokes aside, the fact that Bowie recorded one line at a time is amazing, and my songs would probably sound a hell of a lot better if I did the same.
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    New slate of archival (barrel scraping?) early-70s releases coming at the end of May, namely a 2-CD set called The Width of a Circle and a couple of associated vinyl & digital releases. Will be nice to have the complete John Peel Sunday Show performance at last, and I am interested to hear Visconti's new remixes of the '70/'71 single tracks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    New slate of archival (barrel scraping?) early-70s releases coming at the end of May, namely a 2-CD set called The Width of a Circle and a couple of associated vinyl & digital releases. Will be nice to have the complete John Peel Sunday Show performance at last, and I am interested to hear Visconti's new remixes of the '70/'71 single tracks.
    Is a lot of this "unreleased" stuff on Re:Call 1 or are they just different versions of the stuff that's on Re:Call 1? Is this awesome or more money grubbing bullshit?

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    I love this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_guyet View Post
    Is a lot of this "unreleased" stuff on Re:Call 1 or are they just different versions of the stuff that's on Re:Call 1? Is this awesome or more money grubbing bullshit?
    I think it's pretty awesome... just the "Memory of a Free Festival" and "Holy Holy" singles are duplicated from Re:Call 1, and the 1970 single version of "The Prettiest Star" in the form of an alternate mix; but nothing from the first disc of this new set is on Re:Call 1, it's all from one hour-long live radio session, some of which was already on Bowie at the Beeb. "All the Madmen" is just a new edit of the Visconti album mix from Metrobolist, probably just duplicating the length of the edit version on Re:Call 1. If you didn't care about the live sessions or the alternate/new mixes, I guess you could skip this.

    But how fascinating is this? The Pierrot in Turquoise session, which hasn't been officially released except on the Love You Till Tuesday DVD, features on this new release. It's from a TV adaptation of Bowie's first stage piece in collaboration with mime artist Lindsay Kemp:


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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    I think it's pretty awesome... just the "Memory of a Free Festival" and "Holy Holy" singles are duplicated from Re:Call 1, and the 1970 single version of "The Prettiest Star" in the form of an alternate mix; but nothing from the first disc of this new set is on Re:Call 1, it's all from one hour-long live radio session, some of which was already on Bowie at the Beeb. "All the Madmen" is just a new edit of the Visconti album mix from Metrobolist, probably just duplicating the length of the edit version on Re:Call 1. If you didn't care about the live sessions or the alternate/new mixes, I guess you could skip this.

    But how fascinating is this? The Pierrot in Turquoise session, which hasn't been officially released except on the Love You Till Tuesday DVD, features on this new release. It's from a TV adaptation of Bowie's first stage piece in collaboration with mime artist Lindsay Kemp:


    Excellent, I'm in.

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    So, what is the definitive version of the Outside demos? Do we know exactly what was presented?
    I have The (roughly 1 hour long) Leon Suites on my plex server, but that's all I've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    So, what is the definitive version of the Outside demos? Do we know exactly what was presented?
    I have The (roughly 1 hour long) Leon Suites on my plex server, but that's all I've heard.

    That's all that's leaked but apparently there are hundreds of hours in the can.

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