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Thread: If LimpBizkits Significant Other hadnt been released howd the 00s have been different

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDukat View Post
    Okay, some thoughts:

    Fred Durst epitomized the hyper-masculine, insensitive, misogynistic young man of the late 90's/early 2000's. 2000 was an election year. While Al Gore won the popular vote (and probably really won Florida and won in the electoral college too), George W. Bush "won" the election. A lot of voters, particularly men saw George W. Bush as "the guy that they would like to have a beer with." Now, say that Fred Durst had not been an influential figure in the late 90's/early 00's, with legions of brahs and frat boys wearing backwards red baseball hats? Imagine there had been no Fred Durst, Significant Other or Limp Bizkit? In this alternate reality, the entire zeitgeist of the year 2000 is different. Now, a small but sizable number of men, because they are more sensitive and less drawn to hyper-masculine men, choose Gore over Bush. A few thousand men in Florida choose Gore over Bush (Bush "won" Florida by 537 votes). The absence of Limp Bizkit from the American psyche gives the election to Al Gore.

    Because Al Gore is president, 911 is avoided because his administration takes briefings about terrorists attacks seriously. The years 2001-2009 are a golden age for America. Climate change is a top priority and millions of new jobs in renewable energy are created. There is a renaissance in the arts and sciences, and by 2004 there are flying cars that can run on water. Because human civilization with America leading under President Gore is so enlightened, extra terrestrials decide to make First Contact. By 2009 the Earth is now part of a United Federation of Planets and humans are given advanced technology and can now cure AIDS and cancer and begin their exploration of the universe.

    All of this would have happened if Significant Other had never been released.
    On a similar note:

    The Buffalo Bills barely lost a game in 1970 by missing on a bad pass for a touchdown. The loss allowed them to get the first pick in the draft, where they took OJ Simpson. OJ lived in Buffalo, where he met his wife Nicole. And then allegedly killed her. He then hired Robert Kardashian to be his lawyer. They won the case, making the Kardashians somewhat famous. Then Kim drops a sex tape and becomes famous. So basically the 1970 Buffalo Bills are the reason we have to deal with the Kardashians today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    Just like everything else in the Nu Metal genre, they were fairly short-lived.
    Linkin Park may have something to say about that. I think it's sort of a stretch to say that they paved the way for all these bands, especially Linkin Park and even Deftones. Deftones formed in like 1989 and already had two albums out before Limp Bizkit was even a thing so I'm not seeing the paved road there.

    Linkin Park released their first EP in 1999 with those tracks having a MUCH different feel that we got with the Hybrid Theory LP. I'm sure they have influenced some other shitty bands out there, but I disagree that Limp Bizkit was some huge influential mantra to these bands that are still relevant. Linkin Park did that style for years and was probably the best at it.

    Fred Durst sucks... With other bands that were out that did everything better than Limp Bizkit did: Deftones, Linkin Park, Korn, Mudvayne, even fucking Taproot all have better discographies.

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    It is almost the 20th anniversary of Chocolate Starfish And The Hot Dog Flavoured Water

    What a time to be alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadaloo View Post
    It is almost the 20th anniversary of Chocolate Starfish And The Hot Dog Flavoured Water

    What a time to be alive
    Man, that makes me feel old. I do kind of like this song.

    Another song I haven't listened to once since probably the fall of 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDukat View Post
    Wow, I honestly haven't heard either of those songs this century. Lyrics of the second song are especially appalling--nice job of being both misogynistic and self-pitying.
    is that not the incel culture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    is that not the incel culture?
    Except Fred Durst is able to get laid.

    Here's another great song:


    Lyrically, this song is quite brilliant. "It's my way, my way or the highway." That's pretty deep, so profound. Really makes you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDukat View Post
    Man, that makes me feel old. I do kind of like this song.

    Another song I haven't listened to once since probably the fall of 2000.
    The music on this track... the bass is soooo good. The real question is what would LB sound like with a different vocalist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Self.Destructive.Pattern View Post
    The music on this track... the bass is soooo good.
    you edited your post right before i hit reply with quote, but i'm gonna pretend the question is still there.

    what would LB sound like with a different lyricist/vocalist? pretty fucking good. wes is one of my favorite guitar players ever and the rest of the band is pretty solid. imagine if they had someone like Chino from Deftones, who writes beautiful, poetical lyrics and can croon, scream, and simultaneously make you turned on and terrified with that distorted whisper thing he does. now i want wes to work with chino on something.

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    Fred Durst is the worst frontman in the history of rock, IMHO, but he is charismatic and you couldn't ignore him, like an itchy butthole. I don't see LB having taken off without him.

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    if all that happened. then the 2000's would have been better.

    that shit killed rock and roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    you edited your post right before i hit reply with quote, but i'm gonna pretend the question is still there.

    what would LB sound like with a different lyricist/vocalist? pretty fucking good. wes is one of my favorite guitar players ever and the rest of the band is pretty solid. imagine if they had someone like Chino from Deftones, who writes beautiful, poetical lyrics and can croon, scream, and simultaneously make you turned on and terrified with that distorted whisper thing he does. now i want wes to work with chino on something.
    I dunno what happened, I meant to send that in my comment as well lol. I have pondered this question so many times when I visit the handful of LB tracks I can actually stomach... But hearing Chino and Wes on an album would be pretty stellar.

    Off topic, I really wish more bands would do this and collaborate a lot more like 36 Crazyfists would always do with guest appearances; Elysium is such a massive track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDukat View Post
    Fred Durst is the worst frontman in the history of rock, IMHO, but he is charismatic and you couldn't ignore him, like an itchy butthole. I don't see LB having taken off without him.
    He may not be a great person but I disagree that he's a bad frontman. As you said, the guy is charisma personified. Just look at the Woodstock '99 footage. He gets thousands of people to do that "jump the fuck up" schtick that predates Slipknot's first Spit It Out crowd jump by a whole year.

    Also, the band was definitely influential.

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    Woodstock 99....the infamous crowd filled with rapists and jock bros roided out of their skulls sexually assaulting women and setting fire to the entire festival? So bald idiot Fred commanded his legion of morons to jump and thats a big deal? He should have commanded them to jump off a bridge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    Woodstock 99....the infamous crowd filled with rapists and jock bros roided out of their skulls sexually assaulting women and setting fire to the entire festival? So bald idiot Fred commanded his legion of morons to jump and thats a big deal? He should have commanded them to jump off a bridge
    I just ordered the Woodstock 1999 from Amazon. I thought a Woodstock '69/'94/'99 discussion might be a good idea for a thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    Woodstock 99....the infamous crowd filled with rapists and jock bros roided out of their skulls sexually assaulting women and setting fire to the entire festival? So bald idiot Fred commanded his legion of morons to jump and thats a big deal? He should have commanded them to jump off a bridge
    You completely missed the entire point of my post, which was that Durst is/was a great frontman for the band. Not necessarily a good person, but charismatic all the same. And influential to those who followed and are still around with us to this day.

    What the concert-goers did at that particular festival was appalling, yet it's entirely irrelevant to this conversation.

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    The corporations and promoters are the true villains of that story, charging prices for water on a hot, dry weekend that would make that prick from Nestle smile. Yeah, some real cavemen were in attendance (and on stage) but the atmosphere for that would drive anyone nuts.
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    the real question is, if it weren't for Insane Clown Posse, would we ever have had Limp Bizkit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    the real question is, if it weren't for Insane Clown Posse, would we ever have had Limp Bizkit?

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    We wouldn't have Nookie, and there would be a lot of people with cookies who didn't know what to do with them.

    People take LB way too seriously. Trying to explain LB is like trying to explain David Lynch movies. They're weird and people just like them. There's no deep meaning to it and there's no point trying to find a narrative. Just roll with it.

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    This song is unironically good tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post

    This song is unironically good tho.
    Definitely them at near the top of their game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrodoommonkey View Post
    We wouldn't have Nookie, and there would be a lot of people with cookies who didn't know what to do with them.

    People take LB way too seriously. Trying to explain LB is like trying to explain David Lynch movies. They're weird and people just like them. There's no deep meaning to it and there's no point trying to find a narrative. Just roll with it.
    They were the Quiet Riot of the late 90's, imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrodoommonkey View Post
    We wouldn't have Nookie, and there would be a lot of people with cookies who didn't know what to do with them.
    I honestly don't know where I'd be right now if Limp Bizkit hadn't told me to stick cookies up my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    I honestly don't know where I'd be right now if Limp Bizkit hadn't told me to stick cookies up my ass.
    no, you're supposed to stick it up your "YEAH!"

    have you been doing it wrong all this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrodoommonkey View Post
    We wouldn't have Nookie, and there would be a lot of people with cookies who didn't know what to do with them.
    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    I honestly don't know where I'd be right now if Limp Bizkit hadn't told me to stick cookies up my ass.
    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    no, you're supposed to stick it up your "YEAH!"

    have you been doing it wrong all this time?
    Fuck.

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    They were more like the Warrant and Poison of the late 90s early 2000s.....But I did it. I did the unthinkable...I FOUND A GOOD LIMP BIZKIT SONG! Here it is in all its glory. The best and only good song to their entire discography



    Its basically a Les Claypool solo song that he did for them....No Fred fuckhead on the song. I dont think any of them are on the song....It sounds like a Primus song Les did as a goof for them back when he was friends with Fred for all of a month back in 98/99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    They were more like the Warrant and Poison of the late 90s early 2000s.....
    For all the talk of Nirvana killing off hair metal, the 90's ended on a worse note than how it started. Cherry Pie>Nookie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDukat View Post
    For all the talk of Nirvana killing off hair metal, the 90's ended on a worse note than how it started. Cherry Pie>Nookie.

    which can also be traced back to Kurts demise.....If he was still alive, I highly doubt nu metal ever cracks the mainstream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    which can also be traced back to Kurts demise.....If he was still alive, I highly doubt nu metal ever cracks the mainstream
    IDK. We still had PJ and LB happened.

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    There was already a backlash towards grunge when Kurt died, so I don't think him being alive would have changed much. It was inevitable that people would move on to something else.

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