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    Wow, I never knew that it is common to not bag your own stuff at the supermarket in some places. That sounds really strange to me. Never seen it in Germany and was only asked maybe once or twice in other european countries. Normally I put my shopping goods straight into my backpack or a reusable bag / foldable box if it is more.

    No need to use a disposable bag at all most of the time, except when I occasionally buy more than I planned beforehand. And definitely wouldn't want anyone to handle my backpack for me!

    That said, there's usually a lot of space for your goods to accumulate after they were scanned and you don't need to be within close proximity to the cashier. Plus, most shops here were very quick to install plexiglas shields in front of the cashiers to protect their employees from infection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwarzerAbt View Post
    Plus, most shops here were very quick to install plexiglas shields in front of the cashiers to protect their employees from infection.
    Supermarkets did that here, too, but left the baggers open and unprotected. Ugh. For about a week, the baggers were all wearing masks and gloves. Then, suddenly, they weren't. I think because suddenly ALL THE CUSTOMERS started wearing masks and gloves.

    At Target, there's a whole crew that does nothing except disinfect the carts and the credit card pin-pads and scanners at the self-checks.

    There was pink tape on the floor at the Jewel supermarkets designating the appropriate distance, but lots of shoppers didn't seem to "get" it.

    Now, there are signs on the floor telling you to stand on those signs for safe distance.

    My husband and I had to do shopping for us plus for two elderly people at 6 a.m. the other day, so we each had one cart and divided and conquered. We met up at the cashier section, and there was ONE cashier and a line of about 10 people.

    I was, like, GREAT, this isn't working to keep us very separated.

    Suddenly, a manager type came out, directed a bunch of cashiers to various staggered aisles, and directed customers in line to those stations ... bam bam bam, very quick and efficient, I was impressed.

    I believe that we have baggers due to the sheer number of shoppers. If we left it up to customers to bag, we'd be there for way longer. The efficiency and speed of having store-trained baggers is in the interest of getting as many people through that store as possible, with no big lines.

    The Jewel by my house is 70,000 square feet. That's 1.60 acres. It has 10 cashier lines and 6 self-check lines. Our cashiers can make $25/hour, and they get full pensions. The baggers work as "assistants" to the cashiers.

    There is SO MUCH competition, here, that the focus has shifted to customer service and kissing customers' asses and entertaining them.

    The Mariano's stores (Krogers) have wine bars, sushi bars, oyster bars, gelato bars, candy stores, and the one by my Mom has a band or a piano player every Friday night. The baggers at Mariano's wear TIES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesquipedalism View Post
    As a person who's been in food service, I can tell you that I always want to punch people when they try to pack their own food. I have a job. I do it well. Let me do my fucking job.

    Which doesn't quite make sense, sure. Except it does. And, fine, yes, also doesn't.
    I get it. I worked at a supermarket for 3 years during undergrad. I was a cashier/bagger for 1 year and then worked in the meat dept for the last 2 years. It bothered me when people said they wanted to bag it, too lol. But now I'm on the other side and get it. I'm the customer, it's food I'm buying, and I know where everything goes. This is only when it's a big shopping trip. It all goes in one bag for small trips usually anyway. The big grocery stores only have a couple people bagging usually. Most of the time there isn't anyone and I do it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwarzerAbt View Post
    Plus, most shops here were very quick to install plexiglas shields in front of the cashiers to protect their employees from infection.
    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Supermarkets did that here, too, but left the baggers open and unprotected. Ugh. For about a week, the baggers were all wearing masks and gloves. Then, suddenly, they weren't. I think because suddenly ALL THE CUSTOMERS started wearing masks and gloves.
    I was actually really surprised by the speed with which they built those shields. It can't have been cheap. And the first thing I wondered was how the risk management rundown went: was it the cost of paying for them vs. the potential lost business from running short-staffed or cost vs. potential creative lawsuits? But perhaps I've become too jaded in my old age.

    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    At Target, there's a whole crew that does nothing except disinfect the carts and the credit card pin-pads and scanners at the self-checks.
    I wonder if these people will have jobs after this blows over. I imagine that already this short (speaking objectively), month-long debacle has seriously warped people's opinion of what counts as clean in a retail or restaurant space. Just like I have to assume the salt and pepper sitting idly on a restaurant table won't fly with everyone like it used to, I'll bet a lot of people are going to have long-term different expectations when buying foodstuffs.

    Maybe all the suddenly unemployed cashiers will start working as self-check sterilizers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesquipedalism View Post
    I wonder if these people will have jobs after this blows over. I imagine that already this short (speaking objectively), month-long debacle has seriously warped people's opinion of what counts as clean in a retail or restaurant space. Just like I have to assume the salt and pepper sitting idly on a restaurant table won't fly with everyone like it used to, I'll bet a lot of people are going to have long-term different expectations when buying foodstuffs. Maybe all the suddenly unemployed cashiers will start working as self-check sterilizers.
    I think the cashiers will still be cashiers. I think the sanitizing at the self-checks are being done by the people who were already employed to watch the self-check section; they're the people who were there to help when something went wrong or you couldn't figure something out or a machine ran out of tape. Now, they're there to be sure you are ONLY getting one package of toilet paper, and they're spraying the scanner with disinfectant.

    The people spraying the carts are usually the people doing stuff like stocking or helping customers, but now there isn't as much stock or as many customers, so they're giving them other things to do. Target is now limiting the number of customers allowed in the store.

    They should have been disinfecting things all along. I'm not quite Monk-level germaphobe but ... ugh.

    I think they put the cashier shields in the wrong PLACE at the Jewel stores. Bad design. I think the union had a lot to do with those being installed, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesquipedalism View Post
    I was actually really surprised by the speed with which they built those shields. It can't have been cheap. And the first thing I wondered was how the risk management rundown went: was it the cost of paying for them vs. the potential lost business from running short-staffed or cost vs. potential creative lawsuits? But perhaps I've become too jaded in my old age.
    And the possibility of having to close down if a significant part your team has to go to quarantine because one of the workers is infected. At the least it's bad for your business if it gets known around town that the virus is "inside" your shop. So of course it's not only for the pure love of your employees...

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Our cashiers can make $25/hour, and they get full pensions.
    I put myself through undergrad and grad school working at one mid-level restaurant. I was the front of house manager, controlled the inventory, held tastings and taught classes on tequila, and did whatever the hell else was needed—from laying tile to digging up hornets nests—and never made $25 an hour or got a 401K, much less a pension. The people just over the border from me in Pennsylvania still tend bar for $2.83 an hour plus tips (and, lest it need saying, no pension). Even considering cost of living differences, it is insane to think that we all live in the same country as these cashiers.

    One of the things that has been driving me the most batty with the wildly uneven COVID response is seeing it laid a bit more bare how preposterous the idea of "the United States" is. I wonder if—again, after this has passed—we're going to have a chat as a nation about some of this shit. Especially if the federal government isn't going to bother governing the country as a whole, or share its stockpile of medical supplies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwarzerAbt View Post
    "inside" your shop.
    "Shop" being a quaint term. Here, we have mega-super-huge-stores where one infected person could infect the whole workplace rather quickly but I'm not even sure this megacorporation gives one single fuck about that. Again, I think the union members stepped in and said "we demand protection or we aren't coming to work."

    Quote Originally Posted by Sesquipedalism View Post
    I put myself through undergrad and grad school working at one mid-level restaurant. I was the front of house manager, controlled the inventory, held tastings and taught classes on tequila, and did whatever the hell else was needed—from laying tile to digging up hornets nests—and never made $25 an hour or got a 401K, much less a pension. The people just over the border from me in Pennsylvania still tend bar for $2.83 an hour plus tips (and, lest it need saying, no pension). Even considering cost of living differences, it is insane to think that we all live in the same country as these cashiers.=
    It's largely due to the lack of labor unions, but also due to the tip aspects. Which I think just sucks. Sure, if you work at a really high-end restaurant where the average check is $500 you can make a killing but most people aren't doing that. And, when something like THIS happens, how the fuck are you going to claim tips in unemployment? We need to get rid of that tips bullshit and just PAY people a decent wage.

    It's important to note that the cashiers who earn that upper range and get a pension are cashiers by career and have worked at it for 20+ years. It's not like they walked in the door and a few years later, they're making $20/hour. They do shift work and work holidays and do it for decades. These are blue collar workers. It’s also important to note that $20/hour in the Chicago area is barely a living wage. And then some new conglomerate comes in and fucks with their pension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Target is now limiting the number of customers allowed in the store.
    In my city it's a local order that there's only one customer for 20 square meters of store size allowed. To enforce this all shops have now employed security workers who otherwise would have been at clubs/concerts/sports in Hamburg but are now free to stand in front of the supermarket and do this.

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    a week, week and a half ago, you'd see a handful of people wearing masks around here. now, you'd look out of place if you're NOT wearing one. a handful of people aren't wearing them.

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    People for the most part aren’t even acting concerned down here. Yesterday I’m out driving with blue gloves on and I see families and people out in groups not giving a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    People for the most part arenít even acting concerned down here. Yesterday Iím out driving with blue gloves on and I see families and people out in groups not giving a shit.
    If the families already live together it would not really matter if they were out and about together as a group. But perhaps you meant something different. I prefer the purple nitrile gloves myself.

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    3 months later, my governor just released statewide bullshit till the 24th. We're well past the curve, with a minimum number of cases in our state. Can't even go to a park now.

    Now I really see how easy it was for Hitler to get away with whatever.

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    past the curve? or has it even hit yet? if it hasn't, it will.

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    Boeing announced that the production lines in Seattle are now closed indefinitely. They were supposed to reopen on Wednesday. The bad part is the workers will have to use their PTO (SCAM!) in order to get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laststepdown View Post
    3 months later, my governor just released statewide bullshit till the 24th. We're well past the curve, with a minimum number of cases in our state. Can't even go to a park now.

    Now I really see how easy it was for Hitler to get away with whatever.
    You're seriously naÔve if you think anywhere in the US is past the curve at this point. If anything, you're a good two or three weeks behind the hardest hit places in the country. But sure, go ahead and compare gov't procedures to keep you safe to that of Hitler. You don't need to be going to a park right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckrh View Post
    Boeing announced that the production lines in Seattle are now closed indefinitely. They were supposed to reopen on Wednesday. The bad part is the workers will have to use their PTO (SCAM!) in order to get paid.
    Boeing was hit very hard with the 737 Max grounding and now this. I wonder if they are strong enough to survive it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marodi View Post
    Boeing was hit very hard with the 737 Max grounding and now this. I wonder if they are strong enough to survive it all.
    I think theyíre blaming this on Covid-19 and itís the 737 Max all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laststepdown View Post
    3 months later, my governor just released statewide bullshit till the 24th. We're well past the curve, with a minimum number of cases in our state. Can't even go to a park now. Now I really see how easy it was for Hitler to get away with whatever.
    I understand your frustration. And the frightening similarity of this social upheaval with fascism. But perhaps I can appeal to your patriotism. Would you do whatever it takes to protect your family, and your community, and you country? Now is the time to step up and be brave. Denial is for the weak. Taking decisive action is now mandatory for all with the ability to lead. You have the ability to be a leader. Please join the effort to manage this pandemic. Thank you.

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    A good point someone earlier made about companies already thinking about what they can cut to profit from this when we were talking about baggers. My girlfriend and I were talking about and wondering about what changes would become permanent as a result of covid-19, and lets me honest, it'll be the changes that benefit the people with the most power.

    Here in Ontario, we have a conservative government that was already pushing for mandatory online classes before this happened. Right now, the province is accepting it because it's better than the alternative, but I'd imagine that they'll push to try and make that permanent.

    The baggers were pretty much gone where I was anyways. If the cashier at the next line wasn't busy, sometimes they'd walk over to help you, but usually you were on your own for bagging. Anywhere that wasn't already the case it's probably on the way.

    Most stores are doing curb-side pickup right now as well (order online, pull into the parking lot and call, then they'll put it in your trunk). Packing stores more tightly and treating them like warehouses probably reduces their footprint and reduces theft. That's probably a direction that most already struggling retail stores will move towards.

    I do grocery delivery for Instacart on the side, and that's gotten about a billion times busier, that's probably here to stay.

    Some governments are tracking citizens movements for quarantine enforcement via cell phones. Not all of them are, but the ones that are will probably keep that around.

    The things that are going to stick as far changes after this are the ones that will benefit the already powerful. Not the average person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    I think they’re blaming this on Covid-19 and it’s the 737 Max all along.
    There have been other disasters too. The 787 was a black hole of money & same with air force tanker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    I think they’re blaming this on Covid-19 and it’s the 737 Max all along.
    they may as well. some fuckers are blaming the virus on 5G cell towers and are burning them down.

    Also, wtf at this: Woody Harrelson among stars sharing COVID-19 conspiracy theories tied to 5G
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan_NIN65 View Post
    I really don't know,
    yeah you don't, so shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    they may as well. some fuckers are blaming the virus on 5G cell towers and are burning them down.

    Also, wtf at this: Woody Harrelson among stars sharing COVID-19 conspiracy theories tied to 5G
    Woody was a poster child for just say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    yeah you don't, so shut up.
    Back with more hate, where is the rest if the quote to go with that short likely taken out of context snipit.

    I was talking about long term shutdowns to help and what the economy might do and you spit more hate at me. I was saying we might need a 90 day shutdown.

    Never seen anything like this bring out the hate in people here, love ya guys and have fun spreading more hate. Remember all this hate started cause of a joke about a super model, but hey what ever makes ya feel better. Love ya guys.
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