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    If you aren't willing to sacrifice your life and your entire family for the sake of the stock market, are you even a fucking American?

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    This really wonít be that catastrophic to the economy. The economy will bounce back.

    But if 500,000 employees are dead, thatís gonna be harder to do.

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    The US army is turning the events/convention center attached to the football stadium where the Stones played last summer into a large field hospital in Seattle. It will be use for non COVID-19 patients to take some pressure off the local hospitals.
    I've been watching the daily briefing of the US task force with the president. It's quite a spectacle. I watched on CNN & as the president was throwing NY governor Cuomo under the bus there was screen crawl where Cuomo directly called the president a liar about ventilators being stored in a warehouse in NJ. There also seemed to be some discrepancies involving statements being made about General Motors.
    The president seems to especially dislike my governor Inslee of Washington & mentioned him in a less than positive light several times. He said he won't call Inslee. Recently Inslee has taken a lot of proactive action to try & slow the spread of the virus. He has also taken the initiative to open negotiations directly with China to get much needed supplies & equipment.
    Apparently the vice president is keeping communications open to everyone regardless of politics & rhetoric. I'm not a huge fan of vice president Pence but applaud his efforts to see the bigger picture & take action. The whole situation seems extremely dysfunctional on all sides. I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone.
    I think there is room for all parties to improve in the interest of actually working to slow the spread of the virus & save some lives. Now is not the time for partisan politics by anyone regardless of affiliation. I hope all aspects of all governments can work together for the common good of the entire world. Hopefully this can lead to a better world for everyone in the aftermath of the virus.
    This was basically an editorial by myself based on observations after much reading & viewing of news. I hope I haven't offended anyone as it was not my aim to accuse anyone of anything. Benjamin Franklin, 1 of the founding fathers of the US, had an excellent quote that is as appropriate for these times as it was over 200 years ago: "We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately."
    Again I want to thank everyone who was concerned about my well being while I was trying to get a test & eventually getting the test that showed I don't have the virus. I still have some serious health issues but now am able to work on getting them solved. These days not knowing whilst having some symptoms is almost akin to being a leper & rightly so. I hope everyone is safe & well. Take care, Chuck

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    I’m immunocompromised so having to go into work this past week for three days in a room with eight other people and despite lots of company rhetoric about safety and precautions; wasn’t fun. I was one of two people that really practice the CDC suggestions. Lunch was provided all three days from a greasy sandwich place I don’t like but I wouldn’t have eaten it anyway because people were reaching into the bag without a care, grabbing appetizers and sandwiches. Where was that bag? How many people touched it? You can’t really disinfect the paper bags everything came in nor the big paper bag it all was in. I was always afraid to have a question because on at least four occasions, someone came right up next to me to see what I was stuck on.

    That ended Thursday and now I’m working from home again but my anxiety is at a critical level and probably will be for the next 6 days; hoping I don’t get the virus because that’ll be a rap if I do.
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    Trump not working with governors is dangerous. If he canít do his job, he should be removed. We are talking about peopleís lives and heís still being divisive and acting like everyone should praise the king. Itís so sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swykk View Post
    I’m immunocompromised so having to go into work this past week for three days in a room with eight other people and despite lots of company rhetoric about safety and precautions wasn’t fun. I was one of two people that really practice the CDC suggestions. Lunch was provided all three days from a greasy sandwich place I don’t like but I wouldn’t have eaten it anyway because people were reaching into the bag without a care, grabbing appetizers and sandwiches. Where was that bag? How many people touched it? You can’t really disinfect the paper bags everything came in nor the big paper bag it all was in. I was always afraid to have a question because on at least four occasions, someone came right up next to me to see what I was stuck on.

    That ended Thursday and now I’m working from home again but my anxiety is at a critical level and probably will be for the next 6 days; hoping I don’t get the virus because that’ll be a rap if I do.
    Hang in there. I'm immune compromised too. Fortunately it turns out I pulled the plug on working last summer. I never ate at work in a group setting especially potluck type stuff. Take care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    Trump not working with governors is dangerous. If he can’t do his job, he should be removed. We are talking about people’s lives and he’s still being divisive and acting like everyone should praise the king. It’s so sick.
    Now would be a great time for the 25th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Now would be a great time for the 25th.
    Everyone with the balls to put that to work are long gone...

    (assuming they were there to begin with, which is debatable)

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    just got an emergency declaration that LA area is closing beaches. Well, that was something we should have done over a week ago...

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    getting one step closer to Marshall Law where I live.
    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/...us-crisis.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Now would be a great time for the 25th.
    Seriously. I doubt it will happen, but fucking christ having Pence hold the office rather than Trump right now sounds like a fucking really good thing. How fucking bad are you at your job when a homophobic, racist, evangelical shit-head like Mike Pence would be a much better replacement?

    I mean, FUCK. Even if Pence doesn't give a shit deep down, he at least is PRETENDING to be calm, rational, responsible, and empathetic towards the entire country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardp View Post
    Seriously. I doubt it will happen, but fucking christ having Pence hold the office rather than Trump right now sounds like a fucking really good thing. How fucking bad are you at your job when a homophobic, racist, evangelical shit-head like Mike Pence would be a much better replacement?

    I mean, FUCK. Even if Pence doesn't give a shit deep down, he at least is PRETENDING to be calm, rational, responsible, and empathetic towards the entire country.
    Preface: I am absolutely not a Mike Pence fan! That being said, from all indications it looks like he is grasping the seriousness of the situation. Maybe he learned something from the AIDS crisis in Indiana. Trump refuses to talk to Gov Inslee of Washington (my state) because Inslee speaks his mind & is not kowtowing to Trump. Pretty bad since Washington is 1 of the epicenters of the virus. Pence is very much in contact with Inslee & seems to be trying to be a conduit for everyone no matter what their affiliation is. He's not letting any ego get in the way. I suppose he is used to that having to stand behind the blowhard of the universe. I applaud his efforts to work for the good of the whole country. Eesh...did I just type this? BTW: I think Inslee would do much better now on a presidential run. His message of that the climate crisis has to be the top priority is spot on. I think that most likely deep down the climate change has something to do with the pandemic. Inslee has shown great leadership for the state in a time of crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by versusreality View Post
    getting one step closer to Marshall Law where I live.
    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/...us-crisis.html
    Is this some new thing Iím just too out of touch to know about, or do you mean martial law?

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    115,000 cases in the U.S now? good lord!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Is this some new thing I’m just too out of touch to know about, or do you mean martial law?

    haha, oops. Tekken freudian slip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    Trump not working with governors is dangerous. If he can’t do his job, he should be removed. We are talking about people’s lives and he’s still being divisive and acting like everyone should praise the king. It’s so sick.
    I imagine W., Reagan, and even Nixon would have worked with governors in this kind of situation. Granted Reagan wouldn’t have worked with gays and Nixon wouldn’t have worked with Blacks, but...

    ...sigh. America is fucking gross.

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    Almost 125,000 cases in USA now. If the rate of increase does not subside, there may be a million cases worldwide by Tuesday. This is real. Please be safe! Even if you do not feel sick, please do social distancing. Infected persons who do not feel sick spread this disease. Nearly half of SARS-CoV-2 transmissions occur before the infected person shows symptoms.(1)

    The experts do not recommend that asymptomatic persons wear a mask in public, but this seems to be (in my opinion) a knee jerk reaction to the critical limited supply of medical grade masks. Which makes sense as the panic stricken public has over utilized the limited supply of medical masks. But they do however recommend that you cough/sneeze into your elbow? Would it not be a smidgen safer to cough/sneeze into a nuisance dust mask? Or cough/sneeze into a disposable paper product which you then dispose of? If expelling your germs into an elbow is better than letting it fly, it seems that anything which limits the spread of germs is better than nothing. Duh.

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    Would everyone wearing face masks help us slow the pandemic?

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    Here's some good news. 99 yr old man here in Vancouver made a full recovery. Awesome. Good for him!

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...I6h35Bzq7PcEv0

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero View Post
    Almost 125,000 cases in USA now. If the rate of increase does not subside, there may be a million cases worldwide by Tuesday. This is real. Please be safe! Even if you do not feel sick, please do social distancing. Infected persons who do not feel sick spread this disease. Nearly half of SARS-CoV-2 transmissions occur before the infected person shows symptoms.(1)

    The experts do not recommend that asymptomatic persons wear a mask in public, but this seems to be (in my opinion) a knee jerk reaction to the critical limited supply of medical grade masks. Which makes sense as the panic stricken public has over utilized the limited supply of medical masks. But they do however recommend that you cough/sneeze into your elbow? Would it not be a smidgen safer to cough/sneeze into a nuisance dust mask? Or cough/sneeze into a disposable paper product which you then dispose of? If expelling your germs into an elbow is better than letting it fly, it seems that anything which limits the spread of germs is better than nothing. Duh.

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    Would everyone wearing face masks help us slow the pandemic?
    Yeah, you can't wear what you don't have. It's pretty much that simple.

    Just how far is everyone taking this right now? Better half doesn't want to any groceries coming in the house without first being unloaded in the garage and wiped down with Lysol wipes (or left to sit for a few days), since the virus can live on various hard surfaces for 24-72 hours. Overboard, or necessary precaution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Yeah, you can't wear what you don't have. It's pretty much that simple.

    Just how far is everyone taking this right now? Better half doesn't want to any groceries coming in the house without first being unloaded in the garage and wiped down with Lysol wipes (or left to sit for a few days), since the virus can live on various hard surfaces for 24-72 hours. Overboard, or necessary precaution?
    We unload outside and bring things in and leave bags in trash outside. We just wipe it down with a Clorox paper towel. We donít know if the disinfectants kill the virus if itís on there. Itís better to be safe than sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian View Post
    We unload outside and bring things in and leave bags in trash outside. We just wipe it down with a Clorox paper towel. We don’t know if the disinfectants kill the virus if it’s on there. It’s better to be safe than sorry.
    Funny that you mention bags. Our state just banned plastic grocery bags, so now everyone has to supply their own reusable ones (or buy them at the store) unless they want to go with the really shitty handle-less paper bags that the store sells for a nickel each. I actually found myself thinking "as much as I hate plastic bags, it would be kind of nice to have one less thing that has to be brought between home and store by everyone who goes shopping".

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    We now unload on a beach towel on the floor in the foyer because garage isn’t an option (detached) and we now wipe all the products off with wipes, too. I used to unload on the countertops and then just disinfect the counters, it isn’t like the virus is a swarm of flying saucers. I still disinfect the counters way too much, now. I hope I don’t run out of Lysol.

    I have several gator neck covers (like, for skiing) and I was using those as “masks” but they are kinda hot and fog up my glasses. Now I have some pretty fashion scarves from Amazon and I can multi-layer them over my nose and mouth and I don’t look like a skier or a bank robber when I go to the supermarket.

    We still have plastic grocery bags in Illinois and we keep them to use to clean kitty litter boxes. And we always wash our hands really good after that, anyway, because toxoplasmosis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    We now unload on a beach towel on the floor in the foyer because garage isnít an option (detached) and we now wipe all the products off with wipes, too. I used to unload on the countertops and then just disinfect the counters, it isnít like the virus is a swarm of flying saucers. I still disinfect the counters way too much, now.

    I have several gator neck covers (like, for skiing) and I was using those as ďmasksĒ but they are kinda hot and fog up my glasses. Now I have some pretty fashion scarves from Amazon and I can multi-layer them over my nose and mouth and I donít look like a skier or a bank robber when I go to the supermarket.
    Please be careful with what you get from amazon as their workers have tested positive for the virus. Leave any of those products outside for a couple of days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian View Post
    Please be careful with what you get from amazon as their workers have tested positive for the virus. Leave any of those products outside for a couple of days.
    We spray with Lysol and wash our hands and launder things in warm water with soap. It’s been raining like a friggin monsoon here for two days, leaving outside isn’t an option.

    https://www.geekwire.com/2020/packag...nsmission-low/

    We’re spraying the bottoms of our shoes with Lysol, now.

    Our local supermarket installed tall protective plexiglass walls aside the cashiers that are bolted to the counters. But, the walls seem rather useless as the cashiers stand somewhat offset to these walls. And the baggers are totally exposed.

    There are employees in the middle of aisles stocking and you have to try to squeeze past them and their giant cart, which violates proximity rules.

    There are tape markers on the floor to tell customers where to stand, but some didn’t get the memo. They still want to put their stuff on the cart right behind your stuff and stand right behind you. I suspect we are very close to having to order groceries online or by phone with curbside pickup. Ditto for all other stores.

    If I cough in the parking lot right now, people’s necks snap to look at me like a scene from “Invasion of the Body Snatchers.” IT’S ALLERGIES, PEOPLE!!!

    One of my closest friends is an ICU RN in SC. Ugh.
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    The state of FL has a stay at home order for 65+ people. It comes from the state attorney general, so I think it's only advisory.
    So at least I can convince my mom that she doesn't need to go to the store. I would prefer we stay locked down and order groceries, which we can disinfect somewhat. Last thing I want to do is go to a place where people aren't respecting the 6 ft rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Funny that you mention bags. Our state just banned plastic grocery bags, so now everyone has to supply their own reusable ones (or buy them at the store) unless they want to go with the really shitty handle-less paper bags that the store sells for a nickel each. I actually found myself thinking "as much as I hate plastic bags, it would be kind of nice to have one less thing that has to be brought between home and store by everyone who goes shopping".
    Sounds like you live in Seattle with the bag thing. We've had that for awhile. I know other cities are starting to do it now. Although the sentiment is good the way it is handled is ridiculous. I did have a small laugh when I saw the sign that said the store was not going to allow reusable bags. So, you're forced to use the crappy paper bags. Whole Food is the worst. Their bags tend to self destruct so you have to use 2. I live on the border of the city limits & if I go outside the line, they still use plastic. I reuse all, paper or plastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBurning View Post
    Here's some good news. 99 yr old man here in Vancouver made a full recovery. Awesome. Good for him!

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...I6h35Bzq7PcEv0
    Now that’s one hell of an immune system!

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    We need to study HIS recovery and find out his background, health history, blood type, immune system, all that stuff. stories like his are how we can save lives!

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Our local supermarket installed tall protective plexiglass walls aside the cashiers that are bolted to the counters. But, the walls seem rather useless as the cashiers stand somewhat offset to these walls. And the baggers are totally exposed.

    There are employees in the middle of aisles stocking and you have to try to squeeze past them and their giant cart, which violates proximity rules.

    There are tape markers on the floor to tell customers where to stand, but some didnít get the memo. They still want to put their stuff on the cart right behind your stuff and stand right behind you. I suspect we are very close to having to order groceries online or by phone with curbside pickup. Ditto for all other stores.
    Who could have predicted that being a grocery store cashier or bagger would turn into a high risk occupation? They are exposed to countless people all day long.

    Our stores also have those clear plastic barriers. And my usual grocery store has begun opening up more checkout lanes. Instead of the typical 1 or 2 open lanes they have 5 or 6, so there are no lines. Which is sort of nice right now.

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