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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    From my understanding, as of a couple of days ago, so it definitely could have changed since then - is that incomes over $75k would still get it, but then come tax time next year they would have to pay it back via reduced return or or on top of what they owe if they have to pay in. Anyone know if this is still the case?
    Oh I'm gonna be fucking pissed if that happens. Last year, I took on some tours that paid extra due to the extreme circumstances surrounding them, and for the first (and probably only) time, it pushed my pay to juuuuuuust above that. Like, by a couple hundred bucks. (The extra went to capping off the down payment on my house and making up for over a decade of not saving for retirement.) This year, I'm basically unemployed.

    So if they look at last year's taxes to see my income and base it on that, I'm getting absolutely shit on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    This is only a logistics thing. The Feds are sending the money to each state, so that each state can facilitate the unemployment check process. Because the Feds don't do unemployment. If we waited for the Feds to figure out how to do unemployment, we'd all die of old age and starvation. They can barely figure out how to roll out a web site.
    Ah yeah, sorry, I should have been more clear.

    Like @allegate I'm concerned about tax hikes. I'm sure you know how it works, but for the people that don't, simply, if you make your money from a state you don't reside in, you end up paying extra state taxes (usually in multiple states).

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    A Real Fucking Tweet.

    Yes, a global pandemic is definitely about your campaign.


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    So this is happening to my neighborhood because of corona virus:
    https://www.mdjonline.com/news/fda-a...arkk_gqZKeE4nQ

    This horrible sterilization company has been emitting a cancer causing chemical for years without disclosing it. Residents became aware last July and local government shut them down over permits and they've been closed since. But now, supposedly the FDA wants them open to help with corona virus PPE needs. But corona virus can be killed with heat and soap so why would they open a plant that emits a known carcinogen into a metropolitan area? Obviously something shady is happening somewhere at the top. Why would the FDA pursue this method? The only air testing my community did in the days around the shut down showed high levels all around my neighborhood. Trumps EPA hasn't done anything about it since Obama's EPA reclassified the chemical (ethylene oxide) as carcinogen.

    I'm stuck in my home to avoid the sickness but they're gonna pump my neighborhood full of poison. It's fucked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    So this is happening to my neighborhood because of corona virus:
    https://www.mdjonline.com/news/fda-a...arkk_gqZKeE4nQ

    This horrible sterilization company has been emitting a cancer causing chemical for years without disclosing it. Residents became aware last July and local government shut them down over permits and they've been closed since. But now, supposedly the FDA wants them open to help with corona virus PPE needs. But corona virus can be killed with heat and soap so why would they open a plant that emits a known carcinogen into a metropolitan area? Obviously something shady is happening somewhere at the top. Why would the FDA pursue this method? The only air testing my community did in the days around the shut down showed high levels all around my neighborhood. Trumps EPA hasn't done anything about it since Obama's EPA reclassified the chemical (ethylene oxide) as carcinogen.

    I'm stuck in my home to avoid the sickness but they're gonna pump my neighborhood full of poison. It's fucked up.
    Jesus Christ. The world is literally turning progressively into The Walking Dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    So this is happening to my neighborhood because of corona virus:
    https://www.mdjonline.com/news/fda-a...arkk_gqZKeE4nQ

    This horrible sterilization company has been emitting a cancer causing chemical for years without disclosing it. Residents became aware last July and local government shut them down over permits and they've been closed since. But now, supposedly the FDA wants them open to help with corona virus PPE needs. But corona virus can be killed with heat and soap so why would they open a plant that emits a known carcinogen into a metropolitan area? Obviously something shady is happening somewhere at the top. Why would the FDA pursue this method? The only air testing my community did in the days around the shut down showed high levels all around my neighborhood. Trumps EPA hasn't done anything about it since Obama's EPA reclassified the chemical (ethylene oxide) as carcinogen.

    I'm stuck in my home to avoid the sickness but they're gonna pump my neighborhood full of poison. It's fucked up.
    We had that here, too. Took a long time to fight it:

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...axe-story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post


    that is not a typo, apparently.

    Yep. Scientists like to name things fun names. We get sick of the usual alphabet soup when presenting data.

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    My 365 allergies and use of Flonase have nearly wiped out my sense of smell (anosmia).

    So this won’t be a good indicator for me, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    We had that here, too. Took a long time to fight it:

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...axe-story.html
    Iíve read about the willow brook facility. So sad that thereís so many sick people because of it. They were successful in shuttering that plant. I donít know why we arenít here. It was always a temporary closure but theyíre supposed be complying with the county regulations before they can open. This decision bypasses that somehow. So weird and sad.


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    21-year-old has died from the virus with no underlying health issues:

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...707d9eeac18982

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    I finally got my test results. Came back negative. Still need to be careful due to immune system issues but at least don't have to do full quarantine.

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    Glad to hear it!!!

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    3 GOP senators holding up stimulus cuz of unemployment benefits...
    Wish they cared this much about all the money they're giving Wall Street and corporations.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/b...e-too-generous

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    Quote Originally Posted by neorev View Post
    3 GOP senators holding up stimulus cuz of unemployment benefits...
    Wish they cared this much about all the money they're giving Wall Street and corporations.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/b...e-too-generous
    So, is it really necessary to pay unemployment benefits which result in higher income than employment? I think they may have a valid point.

    A trio of GOP senators, Ben Sasse of Nebraska and Lindsey Graham and Tim Scott of South Carolina, are threatening to delay the bill unless an expansion to unemployment insurance is tweaked to guarantee no one would get paid more if theyíre laid off than what they made previously

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    Iíve read about the willow brook facility. So sad that thereís so many sick people because of it. They were successful in shuttering that plant. I donít know why we arenít here. It was always a temporary closure but theyíre supposed be complying with the county regulations before they can open. This decision bypasses that somehow. So weird and sad.
    It helps that we elected a Democrat Governor who was sympathetic to the cause. The EPA is aiding Sterogenics. Our former Governor was a former investor. If you want to see whoís stalling, follow the money.

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    No,
    Lindsey Graham does not have a point.

    That's actually his nickname

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    you know what the best part of that bill is?
    Section 4019. Conflicts of Interest.

    Any company in which the President, Vice President, an executive department head, Member of Congress, or any of such individual’s spouse, child, son-in-law, or daughter- in-law own over 20 percent of the outstanding voting stock shall not be eligible for loans, loan guarantees, or other investments provided under this Title.

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    My girlfriend was laid off at her job today, so that sucks. She changed to work at home last week too, she worked for Sysco foods, but with all the restaurants closing their door every day, the company had to lay off approx 80% of their workforce due to dwindling orders. 2020 just keeps getting better and better. If we get to the end of this year unscathed, New Year's eve. is going to be one hell of a party kicking this fucking year to the side.

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    This feels quasi-relevant to what’s going on.

    The idea that we are living inside of a larger organism:





    Published on Mar 10, 2020


    "How is it that each of our lives is a work of art of unbelievable chance encounters, coincidences and wishes projected onto the world but never spoken and strangely fulfilled in the oddest ways?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    you know what the best part of that bill is?
    I don't like the use of the word "or" in place of "and/or".

    Trump: "Okay, I'll take 19%, Junior can take 19%, uhhh...NERD, SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE THAT LEAVES US! Uh okay Jared, m'boy, you take 13%...okay, family still has majority voting stock, but none of us own over 20%. We're good."

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    this is the end of him

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    Quote Originally Posted by xmpx_ View Post
    this is the end of him
    You know how many times that's been said? Motherfucker was impeached four months ago and it's hardly been even whispered about since. He was barred from ever going near a charity again after being found guilty of stealing $2,000,000 from kids. He paid off a porn star with a six figure sum to keep the affair he had with her (while his wife was pregnant) from going public. I could keep going, but my point is that he's a garbage human being, has been KNOWN to be one for decades, and it got him ELECTED. And NOW, he's about to be the president who made sure that many Americans could stay home and collect their full - or higher - paychecks for months to come. His minions are already on the air agreeing with him that it would be better to just open back up and let people die than to possibly dent the economy for a little bit.

    This is the end of nothing for him unless he miraculously contracts and succumbs to the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    You know how many times that's been said? Motherfucker was impeached four months ago and it's hardly been even whispered about since. He was barred from ever going near a charity again after being found guilty of stealing $2,000,000 from kids. He paid off a porn star with a six figure sum to keep the affair he had with her (while his wife was pregnant) from going public. I could keep going, but my point is that he's a garbage human being, has been KNOWN to be one for decades, and it got him ELECTED. And NOW, he's about to be the president who made sure that many Americans could stay home and collect their full - or higher - paychecks for months to come. His minions are already on the air agreeing with him that it would be better to just open back up and let people die than to possibly dent the economy for a little bit.

    This is the end of nothing for him unless he miraculously contracts and succumbs to the virus.
    His plan is going to kill millions, and his popularity is surging.

    Americans are used to having financial stress, and the common prescription for that is to go to work. Right now they have financial stress and a health threat that will kill millions.

    Trump is offering a solution to one of those two problems, and at present, this disease hasn't killed enough that most people know someone who's died. It will, but it hasn't yet. Right now he's able to write that future death count off as fake news.

    He won't be able to forever, because it's coming.

    But the reality is his plan is going to kill millions of people if the economy moving again by Easter as he wants. If that happens, most people will know someone who died because of the presidents handling of this by the summer. The only question at that point is whether they will blame him, or go the racist route and blame China.

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    he already has his answers lined up. it's the media's fault, China's fault, the dems fault, not his. and his followers are buying it hook line and sinker no matter HOW many die. that's just my opinion. I want to be wrong. I hope I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    His minions are already on the air agreeing with him that it would be better to just open back up and let people die than to possibly dent the economy for a little bit.
    this is the kind of thing that will refuse him making it past election. he is flubbing constantly, and, you can visibly see him trying to find where to blame next for opposition that is scientific and not able to hold blame. those tactics are being exposed by this and it will hurt the world and the country. and, when people feel the hurt, they revolt.

    I do not see him fighting this one and winning. He's really losing when juxtaposed to greater leaders who are encouraging we come together and stay safe. If they have to vote for a stick on the wall instead, I believe they will

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    thanks to all for good wishes

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    Quote Originally Posted by versusreality View Post
    he already has his answers lined up. it's the media's fault, China's fault, the dems fault, not his. and his followers are buying it hook line and sinker no matter HOW many die. that's just my opinion. I want to be wrong. I hope I am.
    I don't think it's a question of the number making an impact on people, but the increased likelihood that his supporters will know someone closely that died.


    A president on the TV saying "35 trillion people you don't know are going to die because that's less of a problem than the economy taking a downturn" will play just fine with his supporters.

    A president on the TV saying "Your grandmother died because that's less of a problem than the economy taking a downturn" won't sell with anyone.

    It's not real for people yet. It will be. And it's going to probably take millions of death to make it real to Trump's supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    The idea that we are living inside of a larger organism
    We are. That doesn't mean everything means something or everything leads to something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    I don't think it's a question of the number making an impact on people, but the increased likelihood that his supporters will know someone closely that died.


    A president on the TV saying "35 trillion people you don't know are going to die because that's less of a problem than the economy taking a downturn" will play just fine with his supporters.

    A president on the TV saying "Your grandmother died because that's less of a problem than the economy taking a downturn" won't sell with anyone.

    It's not real for people yet. It will be. And it's going to probably take millions of death to make it real to Trump's supporters.
    Governor's willing it won't come to that.

    I know the phrase is "God willing" but I think the governors in most states are the ones who are going to keep us alive at this point.

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    I mean, I thought that was a big cloud that went in front of the sun but apparently it was just the shade from this tweet.

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