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Faceplams: I mean I hate the NRA but gun control is an issue where Republicans win, and if that's the ground I have to give to win in every other department, I'm willing to give it
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I mean I hate the NRA but gun control is an issue where Republicans win, and if that's the ground I have to give to win in every other department, I'm willing to give it
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This is the mentality that has got us where we are...except the fact we haven't been winning in much else.Originally Posted by Wretchedest
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if you think the issue is about guns and not about fraud, then you didnt listen to the AG’s press conference.
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i grew up going to church and a few of my facebook friends were my parents church friends. they pray for trump because they think he has so much to deal with. they think he donates his salary. they definitely think god made him president. yet nothing he does demonstrates even one christian principal.
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so typical right wing news sites then?
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Trump just called Thailand "thigh land."
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It's not about what I think the issue is. It's not about facts or reasoning. That's not how that works. Gun control issues are statistically speaking, something of a gateway drug to the far right. I understand how the nra I'd corrupt and that this is about fraud and I'd be happy to see them go down.
On the other hand if we are choosing our battle in my opinion there are far more important ones to win. Even engaging this issue risks pushing people to the right
Last edited by Wretchedest; 08-06-2020 at 06:13 PM.
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Something snapped for me today.
I watched a supercut for his recent interview on Axios. One question and his answer in particular made my blood boil and officially made me 100% sick of this fucking clown. I have never been a hater, though not a fan either. Let's say I'm a bystander for the impending wreckage careening down the highway we all see that's happening.
Hearing this stupid fucking dolt brag about his reading skills and say he has the best reading skills of anyone recently interviewed made me lose my internal cool. It's a shame the other option is a fucking vacant eyed, neo-liberal corporatist shill who is one of the weakest candidates for the presidency in history, even beating out the prior name holder Hillary Clinton.
We're in trouble. If anything this current break down, spurred on by the virus, has been a long time coming. This is the result from decades of broken policies, neglect and greedy glad-handing of bought and sold for politicians who are too stupid, lazy and complacent to do their alleged job. If these ivory tower losers think the protests and rioting stuff was bad already, shit is gonna get worse if these fucking fools in congress don't get their shit together to handle the turmoil exploding in all areas of plight (food, income/jobs, housing/evictions, etc).
This idiotic buffoon in charge is a non-entity in all of this. You can clearly tell he's a chicken with his head cut off by this point.
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So, he's been trying to scream about something horrifying he saw in a classified briefing about detected election interference...
I agree, declassify this shit now. This is an emergency. This election is important... it's SO important. Anyone who is OK with Russia or whomever planning to interfere can piss off and hand in their patriot gear on the way out.
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I'm in a place where I won't even say his name. Giving him attention is in itself a problem
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Bite me
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This ACTUALLY true though?
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The guy lacks any empathy for any person; in that respect he's like someone born without one of their vital organs. The sick thing is he has been lavishly rewarded for it at every turn in every single phase of his life. He has a vast military at his disposal with ULTIMATE fealty to him. Fuck any existing doctrine, legal or moral, get out the way 'cause I'm getting mine.
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It's worse than you think.
https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/stor...ies-2020-08-06
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*cough* as a, uh, former serviceperson I can confirm this is not true. It's the constitution, and that's it. Yeah he's the boss but that doesn't mean much when it comes to brass tacks.
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/mi...orders-3332819
it's wriggly sure because it's kind of like the porn argument (you know it when you see it) but it's not fealty by any stretch.The military oath taken at the time of induction into the military is as follows:"I,____________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God"
Notice the oath states, “I will obey the orders of the President of the United States...”, but the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) Article 90 states that military personnel need to obey the "lawful orders of his/her superior. The duty and obligation to obey lawful orders creates no grey area for discussion. But does the military member have a duty to DISOBEY “unlawful orders” including orders of senior officers, Secretary of Defense and even the President of the United States? The UCMJ actually protects the soldier in this situation as he/she has a moral and legal obligation to the Constitution and not to obey unlawful orders and the people who issue them.
These have to be strong examples of a direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ and not the military member’s own opinion.
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except it is not a gun control issue. we will still have the 2a (and it’s implications) if the nra was dissolved. the nra was used to funnel russian money to trump in the 2016 election. of course trump the liar would twist it. that’s what he does. russian meddling in the election has left us with the worst person in charge during a pandemic. the AG is doing her job by taking action. this is what she’s supposed to do.
we still have to do what’s right even if it’s viewed as political. the reason we are stuck with the fake president during the pandemic is because the GOP chose to be political instead of doing what’s right at the impeachment trial. if they had chosen removal, maybe (i know it’s a stretch) pence and pelosi would’ve come up with a testing plan and we’d be on the other side of the pandemic. a month and a half ago trump said he told his people to slow the testing down. congress has done nothing about that. they should’ve had special hearings on what could be done about testing and find out if there’s anything malicious happening to slowing down testing. people are dying daily. a rapid testing and tracing plan two months ago could’ve made a huge difference in where we are right now. none of that happened because the senate dems don’t want to be political. they’re waiting for america to vote him out. fuck all the senate for doing nothing during the pandemic. $1200 isn’t shit. fix the testing so we can go back to life.
we still have to do what’s right even if it’s viewed as political. fuck the nra and fuck anyone who’s willing to let this guy grift america and ruin everything.
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Americans have a Constitutionally-guaranteed and regulated right to own guns, and Americans don’t need to pay the NRA to keep those rights; ESPECIALLY not so some asshole can enjoy a lavish lifestyle, tax-free.
Anyone saying otherwise is FULL.OF.SHIT.
This NRA investigation and suit wasn’t even driven by current politics; it’s been going on for YEARS. EVERYONE knows that LaPierre has been living like a billionaire off of NRA funds. It’s been tick-tick-tick for years. The NRA has been on the brink of bankruptcy for years, GUESS WHY?????
Liberals own guns, but they DO NOT belong to the NRA. The right is now QUITTING the NRA.
See also: https://naaga.co/
Last edited by allegro; 08-08-2020 at 10:28 AM.
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oh fuck god no
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/09/polit...ota/index.html
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To be honest, I don't know how anyone could be mad at this guy. He's too ridiculous to take seriously.
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His ridiculousness has serious consequences. THAT'S how people can take him seriously. The clown is only funny when he's not burning the circus down.
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A mountainous carved facade isn't on my priority list of grievances to take seriously.
He's not the sole asshole to blame, Congress at large is responsible for what's happening too. He's a lame duck president though.
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It's because people kept saying things like this in 2106 that led to us casually electing this fascist in the first place.
I hear what you're saying, but...
To call Trump a LAME DUCK?! HOLY SHIT?! WHAT are you talking about?! He's the most enabled fucker ever!!!! He's had a rubber stamp from the GOP who control the senate. He passes executive orders when he doesn't get his way, and then nobody DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
I think I just disagree here...
Last edited by Jinsai; 08-09-2020 at 06:34 PM.
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The fact he was even elected shows how broken our political system is. To tell me my attitude is why he was elected is part of the problem why he's even here. He's not some magic anomaly that just appeared like the Antichrist. He's the symptom of a consistent issue that's festered ever since the unlawful 2000 presidential election, in my opinion. People were sick of establishment trash and after Obama was just another run of the mill politician who essentially did fuck all but keep us on the track with the war on terrorism, keep Guantanamo Bay open, etc who promised us better people were bitter for the same stuff. Some moderates, left leaning individuals and republicans took a gamble on this fool. Not saying I agree with it but neither choice in 2016 was worth a damn to me anyways.
I call him a lame duck because his ratings are in the toilet, he's largely the most disrespected President in US history on both sides of the awful two party system we got and the democratic portion of congress burnt their bridge with him ages ago. As for the GOP, they suck his cock because he's a right wing corporatist closest to their ideals. When Trump goes, pricks like Mitch McConnell will still be there to continue the bullshit. For November, it's widely possible Trump's probably gonna be on his way out at this rate. He's a disgraced, weak president who is visibly rotting in 2020 showing how hollow he really is a leader.
I know the official definition of a lame duck but he never struck me as a strong president and never a competent one. He's only obsessed with his public image and ego. That was always priority and the only ever thing he acted like he truly cared about when on camera. He likes to keep face like all of them but the wheels are coming off finally. You'd have to be the BIGGEST sycophant in the world to think he's a good president and to defend him now.
TLDR; I don't take symbolism and waste of time shit serious when it comes to Trump. It's endless. That's why I said I don't take the shit like Rushmore seriously. I heard more people up in arms over his antics on camera than actual legislation he proposes and champions for. If people do on here I'm not privy to it because I largely choose to not talk politics online.
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As if that was the only thing I was referring to...
I take him seriously because his cult members...sorry...supporters take him seriously. As long as they still see him as their golden god that they swear allegiance to, he remains a threat to us all. There's nothing laughable to me about a narcissist who is willing to cut anyone's throat in order to retain power and adoration.
Last edited by BRoswell; 08-09-2020 at 07:30 PM.
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Just to be clear that’s not what a lame duck is.
to tell me my attitude is why he was elected is part of the problem why he's even here
no it really is not... and that’s circular logic... we’re about to accuse each other of accusing each other of things
and I really don’t intend to seem like I’m coming at you here, I think we agree. I just flinch when people say he shouldn’t be taken seriously. I know he’s ridiculous. But... it just reminds me of when HUFFPO refused to cover Trump under politics and instead relegated him to “entertainment”
Last edited by Jinsai; 08-09-2020 at 09:40 PM.
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