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    Hey, so: IS there a progressive , like, story, or journey, on this album, d'you guys think?

    I honestly can't seem to find one

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    d'you guys think?
    Naw, it's just a collection of songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    Naw, it's just a collection of songs.
    Have to agree. I read and heard this has dissection and so much detailing deep down in the roots of the lyrics and music and honestly...I don't see it. I guess I'm "just not smart enough" to "get it" or something.

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    Some NIN fans are still having the same discussion about TF two decades later, arenít they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Some NIN fans are still having the same discussion about TF two decades later, arenít they?
    That's because we haven't combined left channel of Pilgrimage with right channel of Please... oh, nevermind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Suicide View Post
    Have to agree. I read and heard this has dissection and so much detailing deep down in the roots of the lyrics and music and honestly...I don't see it. I guess I'm "just not smart enough" to "get it" or something.
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand TOOL. The concepts are extremely nuanced, and without a solid grasp of sacred geometry most of the symbolism will go over a typical listener's head. There's also Maynard's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his lyricism- his personal philosophy draws heavily from dead comedian culture, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these ideas, to realize that they're not just technically proficient- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike TOOL truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the brilliance in Maynard's existential catchphrase "Calm as cookies & cream," which itself is a cryptic reference to Danny Carey's obsession with Seasame Street. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Adam Jones' genius riffing unfolds before their very ears. What fools.. how I pity them.

    And yes, by the way, i DO have a Metatron's Cube tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

    Spoiler: I hope it's obvious this is a repurposed, 2-year old meme

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    That’s some A-Grade trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Hey, so: IS there a progressive , like, story, or journey, on this album, d'you guys think?

    I honestly can't seem to find one
    While I was making a personalized copy of Fear Inoculum for a friend last night, writing down every song lyric, I got to wondering about a connection of "Culling Voices" and "7empest". The bit about evidence. *shrug* I don't think hard on lyrics at all, but that caught my attention.

    In other news, I've come to appreciate "Litanie contre la Peur". The title track and "Pneuma" are pretty darn hefty, and since "Invincible" just doesn't know when to quit (lol), I like the break beforehand. I think the kinda weird nature of it also helps relate to the album's range of sound with "Chocolate Chip Trip" and "Mockingbeat" appearing later on. "Legion Inoculant" on the other hand, to me, is overkill for its place in the tracklisting (and for some reason I don't like Maynard's vocals suddenly appearing, rehashing a lyric from the title track). I think the intro ambience of "Descending" already does the part quite well of breaking from music in motion.

    "Descending" is one of Tool's best songs. It's crushingly good.

    Sidenote: Maybe it's because I'm quite familiar with the new album by now, but I think it works just as great for "background music".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaro View Post
    While I was making a personalized copy of Fear Inoculum for a friend last night, writing down every song lyric, I got to wondering about a connection of "Culling Voices" and "7empest". The bit about evidence. *shrug* I don't think hard on lyrics at all, but that caught my attention.
    And Descending/Pneuma both have themes of awakening.
    I guess there are some thematic similarities here and there.

    But, yeah, if there's a full on "concept" here, I'm missing it.

    Edit: regarding TF, @Krazy , I thought there was some sort of concept to that album when I was nineteen, and, said as much when reviewing it for the college newspaper.
    Recently, when I had my wife listen to the whole thing, she asked me what the concept was supposed to be, and I didn't have any idea, and couldn't remember WhY I'd thought there was a concept in the first place. I THINk it's probably just because I associated it with The Wall.

    But, I digress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaro View Post
    While I was making a personalized copy of Fear Inoculum for a friend last night, writing down every song lyric...
    I add lyrics, BPM, and copyright information to all of my digital tracks. As such, I typed out all of the lyrics in WordPad so I could just copy/paste. There are 3 (4?) typos in "7empest" which I kept in; the lyrics are exactly as they appear in the booklet:

    https://mega.nz/#!6i4hFSbL!Li-nCwAKQnAHKxzgveMAFI1tr7bwZKwU4CDLKdP-SjU

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    So, I went to a music chain store in a mall last night... Found one in the wild still....



    Hahaha, $90!?
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    The comparative lack of reviews is likely the reason, but what strange times we live in to have a Korn album scoring higher than Tool on Metacritic.

    https://www.metacritic.com/music/the-nothing/korn

    https://www.metacritic.com/music/fear-inoculum/tool

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    Imagine paying $90 for a CD lmaoooo

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    It's near the equivalent of an even $100 over here. HMV doesn't even dare to display actual copies, but the Taylor Swift trolling is pretty alright in my book as far as IRL memes go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Hey, so: IS there a progressive , like, story, or journey, on this album, d'you guys think?

    I honestly can't seem to find one
    I don't think any of their albums have one, to be honest.

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    Invincible is so damn good....

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