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    Fountain of youth.

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    Hm, the whole trailer feels very un-Matrix to me or at least I don't get the feeling at all. This could be John Wick 4 and I wouldn't have really noticed it, if there weren't some sci-fi shots in this. And I too would have prefered to have Neo not look like John, but I'm pretty sure this has to do with both movies being filmed in Berlin very close to each other.

    Let's see... love me some Jefferson Airplane though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlb View Post
    Hm, the whole trailer feels very un-Matrix to me or at least I don't get the feeling at all. This could be John Wick 4 and I wouldn't have really noticed it, if there weren't some sci-fi shots in this. And I too would have prefered to have Neo not look like John, but I'm pretty sure this has to do with both movies being filmed in Berlin very close to each other.

    Let's see... love me some Jefferson Airplane though.
    I like the Matrix but did we really need another sequel 18 years later? I'll check it out though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Suicide View Post
    I like the Matrix but did we really need another sequel 18 years later? I'll check it out though.
    I mean, have you seen the state of the film industry lately in terms of remakes/returns? It was inevitable, especially for such a massive Warner Brothers success.

    I’m getting big ‘Force Awakens’ rehash vibes from this, is it going to be just fan service or is it going to be cleverer than that?

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    It has always, always, always been like that. Did you expect them to never make another matrix movie?


    Looks pretty good so far.

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    I have to be honest, I found the trailer for Resurrections kind of jarring on the cinematography front and some of the visual effects look as crappy as the burly brawl. I can excuse the earlier movies for being products of their time but damn i figured 2021 CG would be an improvement?

    Now i guess i have to reckon with the fact that this is a movie coming almost 20 years after the last one, so it's bound to look a little different just due to modern filming techniques and practices. What i can't get over though is the absence of any kind of synergy with the other movies. If you had told me this was a sequel to Limitless well.....

    So that felt a bit disappointing to see but I'm still curious and interested in how the whole thing is going to play out. They need to really bring it on the story, aesthetics, acting and music the latter of which I'm also a little worried about as it doesn't look like Don Davis has returned to score, on the IMDB page for the movie it lists music by Johnny Klimek and Tom Tykwer. I'm sure they're capable and will bring back the familiar motifs along with something new, I just hope I'll like it.

    Not having Hugo Weaving/Smith around doesn't really bother me but the absence of Laurence Fishburne will definitely be felt.

    So yeah that's where I'm at, I think I'll go watch the original trilogy and possibly Animatrix again before it comes out.
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    @thelastdisciple I'm afraid it's like I said a page or two ago.

    No production studio is going to make a movie that requires you to have seen a 20 year old movie.
    Most moviegoers are 18-24.
    There will be SOME fan service and Easter eggs in the NT, I'd wager, but the bottom line is that this is, ultimately, a soft reboot.


    And I'll bet the effects are cool. If I were running this thing, groundbreaking effects would be damn near THE most important thing, second only to a coherent plot. Also, this IS the FIRST trailer.
    They may have some more cards up their sleeves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastdisciple View Post
    I have to be honest, I found the trailer for Resurrections kind of jarring on the cinematography front and some of the visual effects look as crappy as the burly brawl. I can excuse the earlier movies for being products of their time but damn i figured 2021 CG would be an improvement?

    Now i guess i have to reckon with the fact that this is a movie coming almost 20 years after the last one, so it's bound to look a little different just due to modern filming techniques and practices. What i can't get over though is the absence of any kind of synergy with the other movies. If you had told me this was a sequel to Limitless well.....

    So that felt a bit disappointing to see but I'm still curious and interested in how the whole thing is going to play out. They need to really bring it on the story, aesthetics, acting and music the latter of which I'm also a little worried about as it doesn't look like Don Davis has returned to score, on the IMDB page for the movie it lists music by Johnny Klimek and Tom Tykwer. I'm sure they're capable and will bring back the familiar motifs along with something new, I just hope I'll like it.

    Not having Hugo Weaving/Smith around doesn't really bother me but the absence of Laurence Fishburne will definitely be felt.

    So yeah that's where I'm at, I think I'll go watch the original trilogy and possibly Animatrix again before it comes out.
    Wait, no agent Smith in this one either? I guess I just assumed he'd be back, that's a bummer.

    I too felt the cinematography to be a bit off in the trailer. At the very least, I hope that can be explained away by this being another version of the Matrix or something. I mean there's no reason a computer program couldn't change appearance in a later version. But those first three movies all had that drab green tint that was perfect for them. This trailer kind of seemed to emphasize the whole red and blue thing so maybe they're going that route for the color grading too? Neil Patrick Harris has blue glasses for chrissakes.

    I really don't care that much about the graphics as long as they're not too shit. It's the story that'll make or break the movie for me. Part of me hopes they get crazy with it and do something totally unexpected. I just really hope the whole red/blue pill thing doesn't end up being some political metaphor or something. Nothing has given me that impression so far but it is 2021 after all.

    Neodammerung will be missed, Don Davis killed it. I really don't care how long Neo's hair is, that's silly. Yeah he looks like John Wick but that's also just how Keanu looks most of the time these days. He plays more than one character with that look but John Wick is popular so that's all people see.

    I'm going in with low expectations, hopefully it'll warrant it's existence.

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    The Matrix still grabs people's attention. Seeing Malignant last night, there were some loud af people in the theater, and the moment this trailer came on, everyone went completely silent and after it was over. The trailer hits very different when you see it on the big screen.

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    The driving motivation for Lana Wachowski in bringing back Neo and Trinity.



    https://screenrant.com/matrix-4-resu...-director-why/

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    @thelastdisciple I'm afraid it's like I said a page or two ago.

    No production studio is going to make a movie that requires you to have seen a 20 year old movie.
    Most moviegoers are 18-24.
    There will be SOME fan service and Easter eggs in the NT, I'd wager, but the bottom line is that this is, ultimately, a soft reboot.


    And I'll bet the effects are cool. If I were running this thing, groundbreaking effects would be damn near THE most important thing, second only to a coherent plot. Also, this IS the FIRST trailer.
    They may have some more cards up their sleeves.
    The whole thing feels cheap. You say there will be SOME fan service and easter eggs, yet when I watch the trailer ALL I see is fan service and easter eggs. Once again, we have the case of the memberries. A bunch of nostalgic shit packed into a trailer, so of course we feel it's cool, because it's just a cheap exploitation of nostalgia, and while the movie can throw a 180 at us, so far it seems like it's going to be a 360. I admit, if it turns out that this cheap trailer was to lure in everyone they possibly can through nostalgia, and then the movie ends up being full of original ideas instead of fan service, I have to applaud them - but the state of the movie, gaming or even music industry suggests otherwise.

    It's also weird how colorful it is, but oh well. Even if they sticked to the original's gritty aesthetics, you can only catch a lightning in the bottle once. The original movie was much more than just a great movie; it had to be made there and then to be the classic it is today. I'm sure we are going to get some high-budget slow-times and effects but none of them will have the same effect when for instance we saw Neo dodging those bullets on the rooftop - spoilers btw.

    All in all, I predict a shit Matrix movie but a fun high-budget action-nonsense movie. After many of the non-sense of episode 2 and 3, no one will have any right to call this movie sacrilege or corrupter of a legacy, because those things are already happened.

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