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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadflax View Post
    I like this song, but I can't help but be reminded of The Lonely Island's "I'm On A Boat," the premise of which is that being on a boat is just about the most luxurious, elite, rockstar thing you can do. Lil Nas X seems to take the same approach, like riding on a horse and having been IN A VALLEY are amazing, boast-worthy activities.
    I think that's a pretty good comparison because the song's never seemed serious to me. It's a big jokey mishmash of country stereotypes. He did a video with Genius a couple months ago where they tried to get him to break down the lyrics of the song and it came off as one big reach because he knows the song's just a meme song that's not meant to be taken seriously.

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    So what's up with TR and The Cyrus's lol.

    - On one hand you have a world wide hit with Billy Ray Cyrus singing to a Nine Inch Nails song.







    - On the other hand you have an episode of Black Mirror where Miley Cyrus is singing her own versions of multiple Nine Inch Nails songs.










    Her sitting at the piano singing 'Right Where It Belongs' was fitting for the situation and was on point.


    All around it's pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    So what's up with TR and The Cyrus's lol.
    I didn't know that Billy Ray was Miley's father until today. That makes it even more odd with two mainstream appearences in the same year 'chanelled' by one family, lol.

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    Remember this?




    Lil Nas X did just what TR wanted artists to do, this is fantastic!

    Mind you, on a legal stipulation, TR does say to take ghosts and add your own visuals... not remix it and list it on Spotify.

    So, there are news reports about whether or not Trent will seek legal action demanding a percentage of the revenue generated by Old Town Road...

    What are your thoughts?

    Should TR let it be and let Lil Nas X, a guy who got a lucky break and has only one song to his name on Spotify, reap the benefits that come with this global hit ($ and fame)

    Or should TR be hard and send his lawyers in full force?


    This is a tricky situation because TR invited anyone and everyone to take Ghosts and make their own film. Can TR in turn sue everyone afterwards? Ghosts are royalty free / creative commons, what does that mean?


    TR should sue BeatsStars for selling the sample to Lil Nas X for $30



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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    This is a tricky situation because TR invited anyone and everyone to take Ghosts and make their own film. Can TR in turn sue everyone afterwards? Ghosts are royalty free / creative commons, what does that mean?


    TR should sue BeatsStars for selling the sample to Lil Nas X for $30
    I'll just quote myself from Page 4 -

    Quote Originally Posted by ltrandazzo View Post
    Here's the Rolling Stone piece DMN cited and editorialized for their article - https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...n-road-826936/

    DMN's piece is super-speculative and has no comment from any of the involved parties, though the Rolling Stone piece has no comments either.

    Again, like I've said here before, since Lil Nas X has been recognizing from pretty early on that this was a NIN sample, he'd likely have cleared the rights with TR+AR, especially before or during the period where Sony commissioned the remix with Billy Ray Cyrus. The Rolling Stone piece examines the marketplace the beat came from; the DMN piece seems like it's targeting Lil Nas X for the same thing several folks in this thread were targeting him for earlier and is riling readers up to potentially expect some legal trouble without any basis or hint that it could be coming.
    And now I'm putting a pin in this talking point. Until there is an actual report that TR+AR are taking action, stop beating the dead horse. It borders on shitposting.

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    ^Sorry I didn't realize it had been covered. I skimmed this thread but must have missed it. Not trying to shit.

    Thanks for the update!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    Not trying to shit.
    ...

    i hope you do eventually, though. not good to keep it all in.

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    Considering TRAR are on the Billboard songwriters and producers chart, the sample must have been licensed surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    Considering TRAR are on the Billboard songwriters and producers chart, the sample must have been licensed surely?

    Now, it looks like Lil Nas X may be the latest artist with a smash hit to run into legal problems. According to details unearthed earlier today, the rapper’s ‘Old Town Road’ originally used an uncleared Nine Inch Nails sample.
    The hook was originally purchased for $30 on BeatStars, a rap-focused beats marketplace.

    https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/201...ad-infringing/

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    Now, it looks like Lil Nas X may be the latest artist with a smash hit to run into legal problems. According to details unearthed earlier today, the rapper’s ‘Old Town Road’ originally used an uncleared Nine Inch Nails sample.
    The hook was originally purchased for $30 on BeatStars, a rap-focused beats marketplace.

    https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/201...ad-infringing/
    This article is two weeks old and I highly doubt there will be any legal ramifications. Lil NasX has been advertising the song as a NIN sample, so i would imagine they have made some type of deal for this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    Now, it looks like Lil Nas X may be the latest artist with a smash hit to run into legal problems. According to details unearthed earlier today, the rapper’s ‘Old Town Road’ originally used an uncleared Nine Inch Nails sample.
    The hook was originally purchased for $30 on BeatStars, a rap-focused beats marketplace.

    https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/201...ad-infringing/
    yes I did read that a few weeks ago but since they are officially credited and on billboard charts as songwriters and producers, surely it means a deal was struck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    Now, it looks like Lil Nas X may be the latest artist with a smash hit to run into legal problems. According to details unearthed earlier today, the rapper’s ‘Old Town Road’ originally used an uncleared Nine Inch Nails sample.
    The hook was originally purchased for $30 on BeatStars, a rap-focused beats marketplace.

    https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/201...ad-infringing/
    I'l quote my quote from page 4 that I also quoted six or seven posts ago. It references the DMN piece that is likely clickbait fodder -

    Quote Originally Posted by ltrandazzo View Post
    Here's the Rolling Stone piece DMN cited and editorialized for their article - https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...n-road-826936/

    DMN's piece is super-speculative and has no comment from any of the involved parties, though the Rolling Stone piece has no comments either.

    Again, like I've said here before, since Lil Nas X has been recognizing from pretty early on that this was a NIN sample, he'd likely have cleared the rights with TR+AR, especially before or during the period where Sony commissioned the remix with Billy Ray Cyrus. The Rolling Stone piece examines the marketplace the beat came from; the DMN piece seems like it's targeting Lil Nas X for the same thing several folks in this thread were targeting him for earlier and is riling readers up to potentially expect some legal trouble without any basis or hint that it could be coming.
    @snaapz Please read the thread from start to finish before you post about this again. We're retreading the same water over and over.

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    I was responding to WorzelG, not sure why you're calling me out? I answered his/her question and I don't see posts about the fee LNX paid to buy the sample, $35!

    I did notice that I never posted on page 1 or 2 and I though I had.

    From day one I liked the track, to this day my wife and I still listen to it and even my 4 year old, somehow, knows some of the lyrics as he corrected me the other day as I was singing it while brushing his teeth

    I think this is very well produced and Billys vox during the intro over top 34 is an amazing combination, it sounds pro. 'Cant nobody tell me nothing' is very catchy.

    I for one am not fond of drama and complications that come with success, I just want everyone to enjoy this track.

    PS I like country music, Blake Sheltons new song 'Gods Country' is on point!
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    People are so obsessed with making out something nefarious is happening, Young Kio has to respond in a tweet to people making out he was left out of the loop (even though he’s on the billboard credits)
    Last edited by WorzelG; 06-15-2019 at 01:20 PM.

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