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    Quote Originally Posted by Volk View Post
    I'm so ready to see them in Philly. I'm also disappointed in what they've done with the merch. Only 150 "limited" posters at each venue, which typically holds 5000 or so people. They didn't even do a general tour poster. I'd usually pick up a poster when I saw Puscifer, but I guess I'll just go fuck myself instead.
    I know last tour they got stuck with a ton of extra posters so I assume that's why they cut the editions down

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    Does anyone know what time the acts come on stage during these shows? Seeing them tonight in Philly and doors are at 6:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volk View Post
    Does anyone know what time the acts come on stage during these shows? Seeing them tonight in Philly and doors are at 6:30.
    The listed event time is 8pm, so that's when you should expect the opener to come on. At the Greek, Moodie Black actually started 10 minutes before the event start time, but I expect that had to do with Billy Howerdel also being on the bill and making sure they had enough time to be done by 11 (the Greek is an outdoor amphitheater with noise curfew rules).

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    Just saw them in Boston tonight -- thanks @NotoriousTIMP for the tickets!

    I will say, though Existential Reckoning has grown on me, it's still nowhere near as good as any of their prior work, and (spoiler for those who are planning on seeing them this tour) Spoiler: I was not expecting them to play literally the entire album with only a few songs from their other records sprinkled in. And of those other songs, the reworked versions of two of them just lacked all of the magic of the originals. I was also not expecting it to lean so heavily on a backing track to the extent that sometimes it didn't feel that live.

    That all said, I still really did enjoy the show, and it was a lot of fun to take a friend who had no idea what to expect. Their shows are always very entertaining, and this was no exception! They just seem to have fallen very far from their heyday in my estimation.

    Oh, also! Continuing the trend, Maynard (er, sorry, Billy D) mentioned that the band has already recorded live in-studio performances for Conditions of My Parole and "V" Is for Vagina that will be released this fall the same way Live at Arcosanti and Billy D and the Hall of Feathered Serpents were. So that's something to look forward to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinDefacto View Post
    They just seem to have fallen very far from their heyday in my estimation.
    I'm curious what you consider to be their heyday. I ask because I think I've liked every album more than the one that preceded it. I've been a fan since Rev 22:20 was their only song (from the Underworld soundtrack) and as much as I LOVE that song, the version they decided to put on V is for Vagina is FAR inferior. Same goes for The Undertaker – the original version from the Underworld: Evolution soundtrack is so much better than the one on the album. If they had used the original versions of those songs on the album, I would have liked it a LOT more. At least it still has Momma Sed, which is a masterpiece!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    I'm curious what you consider to be their heyday. I ask because I think I've liked every album more than the one that preceded it. I've been a fan since Rev 22:20 was their only song (from the Underworld soundtrack) and as much as I LOVE that song, the version they decided to put on V is for Vagina is FAR inferior. Same goes for The Undertaker – the original version from the Underworld: Evolution soundtrack is so much better than the one on the album. If they had used the original versions of those songs on the album, I would have liked it a LOT more. At least it still has Momma Sed, which is a masterpiece!
    The Undertaker is Danny Lohner’s fault. Everything he remixes turns to gold.

    The Outsider (Apocalypse Mix)
    Denial Waits by Ashes Divide
    The duet of Bring Me The Disco King with Bowie and Maynard, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    The Undertaker is Danny Lohner’s fault. Everything he remixes turns to gold.

    The Outsider (Apocalypse Mix)
    Denial Waits by Ashes Divide
    The duet of Bring Me The Disco King with Bowie and Maynard, etc
    I love, love, LOOOOVE that version of Bring me the Disco King. THAT song is a true masterpiece! I guess you're right that the version of The Undertaker (the Renholdėr mix) from the Underworld: Evolution soundtrack was always designated as a remix, but the remix of Rev 22:20 that was used on the album (originally known as the "Dry Martini Mix") seems to have been retconned to be the "original" version, which wasn't the case.

    It's just that every time I listen to V is for Vagina, I wish the versions of Rev 22:20 and The Undertaker that I grew to love first were the ones on the album and that always detracts from my experience with V for Vagina (and always will). At least there's always the Shoot the Messenger EP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    I'm curious what you consider to be their heyday. I ask because I think I've liked every album more than the one that preceded it. I've been a fan since Rev 22:20 was their only song (from the Underworld soundtrack) and as much as I LOVE that song, the version they decided to put on V is for Vagina is FAR inferior. Same goes for The Undertaker – the original version from the Underworld: Evolution soundtrack is so much better than the one on the album. If they had used the original versions of those songs on the album, I would have liked it a LOT more. At least it still has Momma Sed, which is a masterpiece!
    To me their heyday is Conditions of My Parole, then there was a drop in quality with Money $hot, but it still is super enjoyable, the live version slays. Existential Reckoning left me cold, I tried to give it a chance but nothing stands out, it’s too monotone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cahernandez View Post
    To me their heyday is Conditions of My Parole, then there was a drop in quality with Money $hot, but it still is super enjoyable, the live version slays. Existential Reckoning left me cold, I tried to give it a chance but nothing stands out, it’s too monotone.
    This is interesting because Money $hot and Existential Reckoning are my personal favorites. I've been feeling like this band has really come into its own on the last couple of albums. What started as a joke skit on Mr. Show has turned into a real band with a lot of personality. They're still silly and ridiculous, but can also be very serious, atmospheric, and moody at times. I can understand how some of Existential Reckoning could be perceived as monotone, though. I didn't love it immediately, either; I think it took a few listens for it to click with me. I've really appreciated the depth they've gained on the last two records. To be fair, that depth started with Conditions of my Parole, it just took longer for me to connect with that album for some reason. Once I did, I found it to be a more enjoyable listening experience than their debut.

    I could change my mind next week, but as of right now, I think I'd rank them as such:
    Money $hot > Existential Reckoning > Conditions of My Parole > V for Vagina
    [honorable mention: C is for (Please Insert Sophomoric Genitalia Reference Here)]

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing them in St. Paul on Sunday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    I'm curious what you consider to be their heyday. I ask because I think I've liked every album more than the one that preceded it. I've been a fan since Rev 22:20 was their only song (from the Underworld soundtrack) and as much as I LOVE that song, the version they decided to put on V is for Vagina is FAR inferior. Same goes for The Undertaker – the original version from the Underworld: Evolution soundtrack is so much better than the one on the album. If they had used the original versions of those songs on the album, I would have liked it a LOT more. At least it still has Momma Sed, which is a masterpiece!
    Ooh! As a fellow longtime fan since the original REV 22:20, I guess I'd consider their heyday to be from the Don't Shoot The Messenger EP through Conditions of My Parole. Almost everything in there, remixes aside, is pure gold (though I agree that the "Dry Martini' mix of REV 22:20 doesn't hold a candle to the original). "V" Is for Vagina, "C" Is for..., and Conditions of My Parole are some of my favorite collections of music ever. Donkey Punch the Night was a bit of a drop-off, and Money Shot even more so, though both still very enjoyable. But yeah, I agree with @cahernandez about Existential Reckoning leaving me cold upon the first many listens. I've grown to enjoy most of it now, as I said, but it definitely feels significantly less masterful and creative than their previous work (as subjective/nebulous as such a claim is). The timbres just feel more tinny and repetitive, the composition uninteresting, etc., whereas I feel like they used to be much more experimental and inspired.

    But that's just me! I'm glad you've been enjoying them more and more. Enjoy the show!!

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    Interesting takes above! Fascinating that there are so many different opinions about an artist with a relatively small discography. My two cents:

    I enjoyed the first EP/album, but it definitely felt like MJK hadn't figured out what Puscifer was yet. Is it a joke? Is it real, thoughtful, quality music? Yes?

    Then with C Is For (particularly The Humbling River) and Conditions, I had the epiphany moment, where I was like, oh shit, I might like this band as much as APC & Tool.

    And then Money Shot and Existential Reckoning confirmed that for me. They weren't wildly different, but I think that's a good thing. With those two releases and Mat and Carina becoming full members of the band, it felt like Puscifer had really found its identity and become something I knew I was a huge fan of.

    That said, I'm glad we can all be respectful of each other's opinions. I like it here.

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    After all this discussion I decided to listen to Existential Reckoning once more, this time with good headphones. I still find it subpar, but the headphones show a lot of nuances in the music, it is a very well produced record. To those going to a concert enjoy it, they're not coming near my area this time around. Here's hoping I can catch them next tour, my wife started getting into them. Really looking forward to the live version of Conditions of My Parole.

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    I've got 2 tickets available for the show tonight in Chicago. Loge 4 Row CC. Face value.

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    I got page 2 of the setlist!!!!! In Omaha!! Spoiler below
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    Happy you had better luck there! ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    Happy you had better luck there! ��
    Thanks!! People in Omaha were great but nothing can compare to the wonderful and generous people we stood by in St. Paul! And...I also got lucky with page #2 in Portland!
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    Saw Puscifer in Chicago last weekend. The show was great. Didn't care for the opener, but Puscifer killed it. Would have loved a few more tracks from the older albums, but practically all of the material was stuff I hadn't seen live yet, so I can't complain much. Managed to get a poster at the show. The band sounded tight, everyone was energetic, and the theater itself sounded great/looked awesome. Cool crowd, except for the VIP douches entering the merch line several times to circumvent the 'one poster per person' thing.

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    Puscifer fall 2022 tour dates:
    October 13 San Francisco, CA The Warfield
    October 15 Reno, NV Grand Theatre at the Grand Sierra Resort
    October 16 Paso Robles, CA Vina Robles Amphitheatre
    October 18 Escondido, CA California Center for Arts Escondido – Concert Hall
    October 20 Tucson, AZ The Linda Ronstadt Music Hall (formerly Tucson Music Hall)
    October 21 El Paso, TX Abraham Chavez Theatre
    October 22 San Antonio, TX Tech Port Center & Arena
    October 25 Houston, TX 713 Music Hall
    October 26 Ft. Worth, TX Will Rogers Memorial Auditorium
    October 28 New Orleans, LA Mahalia Jackson Theater
    October 29 Baton Rouge, LA River Center Theatre
    October 31 Nashville, TN Ryman Auditorium
    November 1 Charlotte, NC Ovens Auditorium
    November 3 Norfolk, VA Chrysler Hall
    November 4 Washington, DC Warner Theatre
    November 5 Atlantic City, NJ Sound Waves at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
    November 7 Montreal, QC MTelus
    November 8 Toronto, ON Queen Elizabeth Theatre
    November 10 Cincinnati, OH The Andrew J. Brady Music Center
    November 11 Louisville, KY Louisville Palace
    November 12 Indianapolis, IN Murat Theatre at Old National Centre
    November 13 Madison, WI The Orpheum Theater
    November 15 Grand Rapids, MI DeVos Performance Hall
    November 17 St. Louis, MO The Factory
    November 18 Kansas City, MO The Midland Theatre
    November 19 Tulsa, OK Tulsa Theater
    November 22 Prescott, AZ Yavapai College Performing Arts Center

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    I finally get a show in Madison...and I'll be in Europe at the time.

    *grumble grumble grumble*

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    Presale tickets are up now for the Kansas City show, promo code "MIDLAND."

    I feel safe posting that now that I have my ticket. CAN'T WAIT.

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    ah fuck it, i'll go too, haven't seen them since the first tour, not a big fan but it should be entertaining anyhow.

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    I am excited to be going to Indianapolis on Nov. 12, and Madison on Nov. 13. I bought tickets the day they went on sale (so before the VetsAid concert was known). Both Puscifer and NIN playing on my birthday, what an odd year! I was lucky to go to 4 the last leg of the tour but did not post much for comments (other than my excitement over getting lucky for setlists). Spoiler ahead for anyone who's interested.

    These 4 concerts were my first time seeing Puscifer live. Two were GA (so I was front center or near center rail). Thankfully no night before line standers like with some NIN concerts. Typically did not see anyone until after noon or 1pm and only a couple or few until maybe 2 or 3 pm. Similar merch nonsense like the Tool shows (foils/signed posters had people early in line, etc.). For the 2 seated concerts (Seattle/Portland), the lines were already getting long by 4:30 - 5pm or so. Even though I had VIP, I missed out on the foil at Seattle (that was my latest arrival time).

    MJK looks like he is having a blast on stage so that was great. Him and Carina just look like they have a lot of fun. The several videos were great. Spam was amusing and being up front I got to see little Billy D with his phone out and then taken away by security. The video before the finale was interesting in that MJK discussed how he was the result of an alien cloning gone wrong (he "grew a d!ck but became one too").

    The song that got me into Puscifer (also for me this is pre-Tool fandom), was Humbling River. I did not love the remix of that, but it was still really nice to see that performed. Loved the energy and fun they were having in Apocalyptical and Remedy. After intermission, the Dick Merkin parts were great. Loved Bullet Train, looking for Makers Mark, and the probing.

    Overall, Upgrade was one of my favorites. MJK stood very close to the front of the stage for this one. What really got me the most was that I noticed I could hear him singing (duh!...bare with me)...not through the mic. Almost like a stereo sound (for lack of a better description) of his own voice not through the mic/speakers plus what was coming over the speakers. In thinking about this since, I assume I've also noticed this for Trent (being on rail and very close to him multiple times) but for some reason I don't think I've ever consciously thought about it. Anyways, MJK sounded just so fantastic especially when I was consciously noticing that. It's hard to put into words how great he sounded. Looking very forward to that again in November!

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