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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixML View Post
    Spring has ended.
    Thanks for the update. But seriously, did you really think it'd be ready by Trent's estimated time-frame? NIN releases always take longer than originally suggested. Let's just hope it actually gets released, unlike some of the other projects that have been announced in the past only to fizzle and never materialize (Closure DVD, Fragile deluxe, Tension Blu-Ray).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    Let's just hope it actually gets released, unlike some of the other projects that have been announced in the past only to fizzle and never materialize (Closure DVD, Fragile deluxe, Tension Blu-Ray).
    We got the Closure DVD for free, four discs of Fragile outtakes, and over an hour of Tension pro-shot online (again, for free). I mean, if that's "never materialize" for NIN, then they have a far better track record than other artists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    We got the Closure DVD for free, four discs of Fragile outtakes, and over an hour of Tension pro-shot online (again, for free). I mean, if that's "never materialize" for NIN, then they have a far better track record than other artists.
    Yes, I know—I meant official releases. And as much as I love Deviations (bought the vinyl on day one), it's not the "Deluxe Fragile" 5.1 surround sound version that includes vocals that most people have been hoping & waiting for, it's a different beast. As for Tension, there was a lot more that was supposed to be included. But I'm not here to bitch, I'm actually very happy with what we've been given over the course of the past 15 years. Trent has indeed been very generous over the years and given us several projects for free. If the expanded Bird Box never materializes, I'll be fine with that. I'm still looking forward to the Watchmen score and whatever else they've got cooking in the oven.

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    Dont forget the vinyl version of Patriots Day and the vinyl of Gone Girl outtakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reznor2112 View Post
    Dont forget the vinyl version of Patriots Day and the vinyl of Gone Girl outtakes
    I wonder why it is so difficult to get this stuff released. My feeling was that it was issues with labels and rights, but I feel like stuff does get release (e.g. Gone Girl Outtakes, instrumentals, etc.). It could be physical release issues, but honestly even that has limits and you would assume if it was real issues then things would eventually just get released digitally. I wish he/they would get better about this stuff or just not mention it and we could be pleasantly surprised when things actually do get released. That Fragile Deluxe has been in my head since they mentioned it forever ago it and I fell like I can never just forget about it... it must be coming out at some point, right? right?!

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    I think he's just bad about announcing releases (i.e. deadlines) that have become unrealistic in today's market climate..

    If anything, it's a good sign that he's passionate about releasing things he feels his fanbase will enjoy, and then the production bureaucracy bullshit eventually takes over..

    If the WT/YZ masters were indeed lost in the 2008 Universal Studios fire, and he's just now finding out about this, then that would explain the 2.5 year "Coming Soon" debacle for those releases. He's probably just as pissed as anyone about that. Which one could also assume nixes any kind of Fragile 20th Anniversary release, if those tapes were included in the fire. However, he also released Fragile Apple/Deviations 1, which included a wealth of unheard material, so who knows if he's sitting on anything else..

    Quake and The Slip are anyone's quess. One was released by id Software, and the other he owns outright, I believe. There's no real excuse for Patriot's Day never getting a physical release, and I attribute that to Lakeshore being a shitty vanity label who is out of touch with their fanbase, of which I've experienced on numerous occasions, much like SRC Vinyl..

    Bird Box Deluxe...who knows. It's maddening, given how much I love the score they did for that film and knowing there's twice as much still out there, with not so much as a word as to why. My initial post in the Random NIN thread about it being the first day of spring and it wasn't getting released was purely tongue-in-cheek, but I'd be remiss if I said there wasn't some truth in jest..

    Hopefully, it's just been delayed in production a bit and is coming soon (along with "lots more in 2019") and he just doesn't feel the delay is worth making a Sanddouchebag statement about. I'd like to think TR wouldn't leave his hardcore fanbase hanging like that. Hopefully..

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    I'm still confident the Universal backlot fire will not affect NIN's plans much. If anything, TR could jump on a lawsuit that would essentially stipulate "you don't own my masters anymore, because you fucking burned them, assholes, so I'll be releasing everything on Null Corp. from now on instead of your imprint, thanks for returning all royalties in perpetuity".

    Quote Originally Posted by buckaroo View Post
    It could be physical release issues, but honestly even that has limits and you would assume if it was real issues then things would eventually just get released digitally.
    I mean, the Gone Girl outtakes already were released, and one of them even was incorporated into the Patriot's Day soundtrack, which had a wide digital release. Honestly, the 'vinyl is our first priority' flex made a bit more sense when they weren't neck-deep in starting a new merch distribution operation, getting the new NIN trilogy completed and launched, organizing a tour, accepting more soundtrack work, etc. etc. More physical releases are sure to come when the time is right.

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    I don't think the fire would be a reason for the holdup considering Broken, TDS, and The Fragile were all reissued long after the fire. Either the masters for NIN were stored elsewhere or Trent had them, or he had sufficiently high-quality copies that he felt comfortable working from them instead of the missing masters.

    The NYTimes list could be inaccurate, too, because Universal demonstrated over and over that their accounting of the inventory in that vault was woefully inadequate, so maybe it was a set of backup copies in that vault or something.

    Bird Box Deluxe being MIA is pretty frustrating but it's become par for the course lately.

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    I've made peace with "we'll get stuff when we get it". For whatever the reason stuff gets in the way and i'm OK with that, i'm just happy we're getting stuff every year.

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    Last Thing Left is just gorgeous.

    I was listening to this while cooking dinner the other evening and stopped to cooking to watch my 18 month old lil boy play with my wife and about lost it lol

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    With all the focus on the new "trilogy" of The Watchmen score, I guess the whole "deluxe" version of Bird Box with 1 extra hour of material is officially gone and into the NIN abyss, joining the likes of Fragile deluxe and Tension blu ray and countless others....Its a shame this score got banished into NIN purgatory considering it was probably their best score since Social Network

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    I'd be interested to find out how much involvement Netflix had in preparing the deluxe version and if there was a financial component they were going to invest into it and if that has been present throughout or if it had been promised and then later withdrawn.

    Just speculating, but I'd be curious to see if any of those potential details could have held this up.

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    I simply think they ran out of time to work on the physical box before the momentary opportunity to get it out in a timely fashion had passed, and other stuff took priority. It's a great score, but given past problems NIN has had with vinyl distribution and packaging, the time to get it right and make sure it would live up to their own expectations was probably way too short and now the film is not really on the radar anymore. Releasing the Watchmen score in several parts, as the episodes roll out, is a much more thoughtful use of the buzz and exposure the TV show will enjoy. I mean, right now they have all of the top three spots on Amazon's music chart purely on pre-orders for those vinyl volumes, and putting it out in smaller chunks like that will keep it on the streaming charts as well. The giant deluxe box set era, particularly for new work, is sort of winding down now.

    I'd love to be proven wrong and get box sets for all the scores and NIN albums, of course!
    Last edited by botley; 10-22-2019 at 01:31 PM.

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