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    So, in summary:

    - Gary’s been asked to do the soundtrack for a big, big-budget film, but he’s waiting to hear back from them, putting him in an anxious position as he doesn’t know how he’ll get everything done if they suddenly approach him about it any time soon. He’s also been approached about another film, though not as big a budget as the first one mentioned.

    - Wants to get 4-5 songs finished for the new album by year’s end.

    - Sounds like most, if not all, of the vocals have been done for the Sacrifice/Exile/Pure “new” versions with Ade in London.

    - The soundscapes and potential film sounds and/or tour intros he previews are a-maz-ing!

    - Couldn’t help but laugh when he shows the keyboard with all black keys. He first saw it and thought it was “sexy as fuck,” then it became a nightmare to use in the studio because it’s dark, and it’s just like staring at a black void, not being able to hit the right keys. Apparently he’s going to replace it lol.

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    Just re-watched the excellent Reinvention DVD documentary about Gary's career. It's a fascinating glimpse at all the highlights (and lowlights) from an interior perspective. It prompted me to think about Gary's live bands (of which there have been many) over the years.

    The original Living Ornaments '79/'80 live band included members from the early television and radio appearances billed as Tubeway Army (including Gary's bass maestro Paul Gardiner and also the tremendous drummer Ced Sharpley, both of whom were heroically talented and supportive of Numan's sound in those early fame days). They also included Chris Payne, who along with RRussell [sic] Bell formed the multi-instrumentalist backbone of the band Dramatis that spun-off on its own (releasing one very good LP, For Future Reference, with Numan providing guest vocals on one track) after playing for Gary at Wembley Arena in '81, his final three UK performances for years. Their primary keyboard player Denis Haynes took the seat in Numan's band left by Billy Currie (vacating early 1980 when he re-joined Ultravox), which was also filled in the Teletour era by Roger Mason.

    Mason along with a batch of other British players came over from the UK when Numan rehearsed in Los Angeles mid-1982 (in tax exile) for a relatively low-profile I, Assassin North American tour. This was a big change in lineup, with the awesome Pino Palladino holding down the funk basis of Gary's post-Dance fretless bass grooves. While there is some tantalizing footage of this band on the Reinvention DVD (I wish there was more included as a bonus feature!), an official full-length release from the tour has sadly never happened. Unfortunately, great as his explosive sound was, the alliance with drummer Chris Slade disintegrated in personal acrimony (he'd go on to play with AC/DC, which seemed more fitting to his temperament). Gary's own brother John Webb joined as well and would stay for years, later going on to record music on his own today under the alias Donovan Silver. A guitar player from the band Japan, Rob Dean, rounded out the tour lineup, with everyone decked out in shimmering-white 1930s gangster duds. When Numan returned to the UK in 1983, most of Dramatis returned to backing him up, with the addition of funky slap bass player Joe Hubbard. I don't think this lineup ever gelled, despite basically remaining intact for the following few years (except for new bassists and backing vocalists).

    In 1987, the lineup shifted again with Ced being replaced by Greg Brimstone on drums. By this point, Numan had had gone from having one dedicated backing vocalist, Karen Taylor on the Berserker tour (documented on the White Noise live album and subsequently 2008's archival Cold Warning DVD), to two with the addition of Kit Rolfe for The Fury tour. Andy Coughlan played bass in this period. Both of the backing singers on the 1987 Exhibition tour were sisters, Emma and Valerie Chalmers. This lineup was recorded for the Ghost live album, which had Brimstone and Nick Davis on bass. For the Metal Rhythm tour in 1988, Sharpley and Coughlan came back but John Webb did not, with keyboardist Ade Orange joining the lineup for the first time. While Payne was still in this role, after 1993 for almost fifteen years Orange would become Numan's primary live multi-instrumentalist. New backing vocalists Cathi Ogden and Diana Wood joined for a short 1989 tour, documented as a live video originally called The Skin Mechanic and reissued under various dodgy names on budget labels.

    With Numan's career on life support, the band significantly shrunk and only Sharpley retained from the original lineup in 1991. Even I lose track of this period, it's not well documented with live audio and video, but John Webb switched to playing bass, and studio musicians Mike Smith and Keith Beauvais played keyboards and guitar, respectively. Jackie Rawe sang backup in 1991 Susie Webb in 1992, and TJ Davies in 1993. The guitarist Kipper replaced Beauvais on record and stage at this point, with Ced Sharpley finally departing to be replaced by the undeniably great Richard Beasley, who has consistently performed with Numan on nearly every subsequent tour up to this day. Their firey show at London's Hammersmith Apollo was documented on Dream Corrosion, with a setlist drawn from more deep cuts in Gary's catalogue. He dropped the backing vocalists altogether on the Sacrifice tour, which was brilliantly documented on the album Dark Light.

    In 1996, Numan's career was on an upswing again and he hired keyboardist David Brooks, who would become another mainstay, and guitarist Steve Harris who is also still touring with Numan to the present day. This group stayed in place for years, with many live albums documenting their shows, and only occasional changes in performing lineup with Rob Holliday joining as an additional bassist/guitarist in 2003-2006. Chris McCormack would also take over guitar for Harris for a few years. It was with the 2007 Jagged shows that Ade Orange and Rob Holliday left the band, to be replaced by Numan's current co-producer Ade Fenton and current bassist Tim Muddiman. Other players have temporarily filled in from time to time, including the keyboardists Gareth Thomas, Josh Giroux, and Presley, Frank Zummo on drums, Mark Thwaite on guitar, and Marc Sallis and Tim Slade on bass, but the lineup has been fairly stable otherwise. Numan reports having a very close relationship with his band again and this has led to him enjoying his more extensive world tours in recent years. Members of the original band have also dropped in and guested on the occasional song during retrospective-focused shows, which is always a rare treat. And, of course, backing vocals have come back once again in the form of Persia Numan guesting on stage for "My Name Is Ruin".

    Can't wait to see what's in store for the (R)Evolution 40th anniversary tour coming up in the fall! Some never-before-played stuff would be quite exciting, and from the sound of it, rehearsals will begin very soon once the Numan family returns from summer holidays.
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    I hope the next update gives us info about the Sacrifice, Exile and Pure new versions. Honestly more excited about those and “Intruder” than the new Tool record.

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    Beggars' Arkive is releasing a pair of two-disc sets (both available in 2xCD format and also as 2xLP colour vinyl flavours) of all the demos/early recordings that survive from the Replicas & Pleasure Principle sessions in 1979, with the old BBC live sessions on John Peel's radio show thrown in as well. This is the first time they've compiled all of these non-album cuts from that landmark year in Gary's career as standalone packages.

    Having already bit the bullet on Replicas Redux (the limited 3xCD version from eleven years ago), and the Complete John Peel Sessions CD from 2007, I've got most of these already... but there are a few tracks on The Pleasure Principle - First Recordings CDs that are truly new. I don't feel bad about buying it either, because I never double-dipped on the 30th Anniversary CD back in '09... so that's another day-one pre-order from me on Townsend Music! Glad this is going to be out there in time for the tour as well. They're cutting it pretty close to have the new editions of Sacrifice/Exile/Pure ready in time too.
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    I'm pretty hype for the prospect of new editions of Sacrifice, Exile, and Pure. When (if) they're released, I'll probably pick up two of each.

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    Is there a proper live Version of replicas from the early 80s like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brando View Post

    Is there a proper live Version of replicas from the early 80s like this?
    Yes, in fact, there is!

    Get the album Engineers from the 1980 Australian shows. It was dropped from his set (for 14 years!) soon after those gigs... don't know if there is any video from those.
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    Ah, ok, thank you. But that one is hard to get. Only torrent

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    €10 used copies on Discogs: Gary Numan - Engineers

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    Posted on 09/09/2019 by Gary Numan Making Music

    Bringing you up to date with the latest progress on the album before I leave again for the (R)evolution tour tomorrow. The video is about 16 minutes long and covers everything that's happened since the summer break. These are the final lyrics to Intruder and The End Of Dragons.


    Intruder


    I could listen to you scream


    Pretty music to my ears


    I could listen to it all day


    If you want me to?





    I could talk about my world


    How you brought about ruin


    I could talk about your greed


    If you want me to?





    I could look into evil


    See a heart just like mine


    I could throw away reason


    If you want me to?





    I could walk into darkness


    Find the hole you crawled in to


    I will be the intruder


    If you want me to?





    You can whisper your Lord’s Prayer


    And pretend that it matters


    But don’t you wish you’d just listened more?


    You can hide in the shadows


    And pretend I won’t find you


    But don’t you wish you’d just listened more?





    I could listen to more lies


    About promises you kept


    Will you walk on water


    Like you said you would?





    I could make you my prisoner


    But you were dead men talking


    When you burned the oceans.


    Like you said you would





    You can beg for God’s mercy


    And pretend that He hears you


    But don’t you wish you’d just listened more?


    You can drown in your sorrow


    And pretend you were helpless


    But don’t you wish you’d just listened more?





    This was always your one life


    I won’t pretend that it matters


    But don’t you wish you’d just listened more?


    This was always your one home


    I won’t pretend that I’ll miss you


    But don’t you wish you’d just listened more?




    The End Of Dragons




    Sometimes, when I’m sleeping, I can hear your song


    Sometimes, when I’m dreaming, I forget that you’re gone


    Now when the wind cries, I remember you


    Now as the world dies, I remember you





    Sometimes, in the silence, I can hear you scream


    Sometimes, in the darkness, we are not what we seem


    Now when the rain falls, I remember you


    Now as the end calls, I remember you





    Broken, the hearts of them all, at the end


    Broken, the beauty and grace, now long gone


    Broken, the heart of the world, at the end


    Broken, the whispers of shame, our children





    Sometimes we’re scared of the dark, and who waits there


    Sometimes we’re scared of the truth, and what hides there


    Sometimes we are what we fear, in the end





    Memories are all we have when the last breath comes


    Moments in a life that has now come undone


    Sometimes they warm you, like a long lost friend


    Sometimes they calm you, like the oceans end


    But sometimes they break your heart

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    In the video, Gary says they’ve rehearsed 41 songs for the upcoming tour(!)

    Also mentions the new versions of Sacrifice, Exile and Pure will be released in the first few months of next year, with Intruder due out next September.

    Then ends on saying there is one other major thing he’s been working on that he will announce in the next week that has taken up a lot of time. Curious about that one.
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    He also goes on to say that the album is about climate change and the idea of the world itself speaking to us as it’s dying; that’s the perspective that the lyrics of the title track are coming from. And while Gary “loves fantasy and dragons and all that shit,” (lol, his words), that song can also be interpreted as the world ending, etc. Very interesting video update.

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    I'm guessing the other major thing is that film score he was tapped to write.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    I'm guessing the other major thing is that film score he was tapped to write.
    That soundtrack he and Ade Fenton did for “From Inside” back in 2014 got pretty overlooked. So much so that I think I only listened to some brief samples from it to this day.

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    What does everyone think about the new Ghost Nation Patreon that Gary has put together?

    I haven't used Patreon before but I'm interested in it. Once I get a job/steady income, I'll subscribe and see what each tier has to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REPLICA View Post
    What does everyone think about the new Ghost Nation Patreon that Gary has put together?

    I haven't used Patreon before but I'm interested in it. Once I get a job/steady income, I'll subscribe and see what each tier has to offer.
    Iíll definitely be joining!

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    Will be cool to see what tonightís set in Ireland will be like.

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    First night of the Revolution tour last night in Dublin! Great fun, super expansive setlist, so much so that I didn't recognize a few songs. I guess all the talk of lyric sheets and memory issues were not for nothing; there were a few misadventures last night. Funny stuff, Gary wasn't too hard on himself, he laughed it off.

    The support act, Kanga, was awesome. Great to see underground industrial on a large stage.

    Catch this tour if you can. Good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutilated View Post
    First night of the Revolution tour last night in Dublin! Great fun, super expansive setlist, so much so that I didn't recognize a few songs. I guess all the talk of lyric sheets and memory issues were not for nothing; there were a few misadventures last night. Funny stuff, Gary wasn't too hard on himself, he laughed it off.

    The support act, Kanga, was awesome. Great to see underground industrial on a large stage.

    Catch this tour if you can. Good times.
    Do you know what the set list was? I can’t see anything on setlist.fm yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    Do you know what the set list was? I can’t see anything on setlist.fm yet.
    I'm only really familiar with material from Pure onwards, so I'd only be guessing - plus there songs played I genuinely didn't know.

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    ^ @Mutilated , you should familiarise yourself with more! If you dig Pure, definitely get into Sacrifice and Exile.

    Oooh, Desire was played! and Dark! and Intruder! @botley , what do you think of the two sets so far?
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    Pretty good review from his live shows, also has some NIN spotting in it

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...bexhill-on-sea

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    Two really excellent-looking set lists so far! I'm not planning to go looking at cellphone videos, or that sort of thing. Gonna make me too jealous considering some of the cool stuff he's unearthed for this tour. I hope he documents a couple of nights, and puts out multiple live CDs from it like he did for the 2015 London Forum 'classic album' shows.

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    I've only recently got into Numan's music. I'm quite interested in the new tour but don't know that much material except Savage, Splinter, and some of The Pleasure Principle. He has 18 studio albums! Any pointers as to where I should start, or at least some LPs relevant to this tour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    I've only recently got into Numan's music. I'm quite interested in the new tour but don't know that much material except Savage, Splinter, and some of The Pleasure Principle. He has 18 studio albums! Any pointers as to where I should start, or at least some LPs relevant to this tour?
    i mean telekon is where i started but i don't know if that's where most people would recommend you do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    I've only recently got into Numan's music. I'm quite interested in the new tour but don't know that much material except Savage, Splinter, and some of The Pleasure Principle. He has 18 studio albums! Any pointers as to where I should start, or at least some LPs relevant to this tour?
    Yeah, definitely go back to Telekon and Replicas. That said, if you want a quick peek at the back catalogue to familiarize yourself with some of what's likely to be played on tour, then diving into all the studio albums is going to be too overwhelming and not particularly useful. One of the more recent live albums like Big Noise Transmission (which is on streaming services, I think) might be a better crash-course for you.

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    I screwed up my diary and I'm missing Gary in my home city tonight

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    Gary's new Patreon service for the "Ghost Nation" fan subscription is now live.

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