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Thread: 11/08/2022, The Midterms, aka build on 2020 aka The Election Thread

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    Hey, so, A.) Beto is only 6 points behind Abbot, currently.
    (he's not going to win high office here under any circumstances because of.that one time he committed political suicide, but this is still cool to see.)

    Also, this: (Beto destroys Texas governor in must see takedown.)


    And, B.) According to recent polls, Matthew McConaughey is ahead of Abbot by 8 points when voters were asked if they'd prefer McConaughey, Abbot, or "someone else."

    We're still.not sure if MM is running, but "it'd be a lot cooler if he DID." He describes himself as an "aggressive centrist."
    Suppose he runs as a moderate Democrat and beats Beto in the primary- I'm PRETTY sure he'd have a better chance than Beto against Abbott.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Matthew McConaughey
    I hope he runs as an Independent and his campaign slogan is “Alright Alright Alright.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    I hope he runs as an Independent and his campaign slogan is “Alright Alright Alright.”
    I love the slogan.
    He could also say "you gonna vote for me? It'd be a lot cooler if you DID!" (from dazed and confused lololol)
    But if he runs as an independent, i'm not sure he'll have a real chance. Even trump needed party support.

    SO. a lot of texas republicans are unhappy with Greg Abbott, for multiple reasons. People literally froze to death under his watch, and conservative college educated women aren't loving this attack on Roe V Wade.
    If he (McC) ran as a moderate republican, he MIGHT could beat Abbott in the primary.
    Hell.
    We've already got a few cats on the right looking to win the Republican primary, but only politics nerds (ahem...i...umm, cough, West, Huffines, Prather...yeah, hmmm... ) know who they are.
    Could a McConaughey win that primary? Hell. Look at Reagan, or the Governator. He won Cali, FFS, as a REPUBLICAN.

    OR, McConaughey could run as a conservative democrat (remember THOSE?) and likely have a better chance at getting over on Gov Abbott than Beto has.
    Beto, god love him, made that ONE mistake. Hell, I LOVE HIM. I thought he was the next JFK, except more punk rock.
    But you can't tell people in the south that you're LITERALLY coming to confiscate their guns.

    Edit: you also can't tell people in the US in GENERAL that you're coming to confiscate ANYTHING currently legal, and expect to be elected, i don't think. That shit SCARES people.
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    Ross Perot was pretty popular in Texas.

    You never know.

    There are still a lot of conservative Democrats. Joe Manchin is one (even though he says he’s a centrist).

    Texas HATED JFK. It’s the only reason JFK chose LBJ as his running mate; JFK couldn’t stand LBJ. JFK was warned not to go to Dallas.

    https://www.houstonpress.com/news/ha...nation-6744266

    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Look at Reagan, or the Governator. He won Cali, FFS, as a REPUBLICAN.
    Reagan was in 1967. During the Nixon era. Reagan had been a big union guy. Schwarzenegger won as a populist, and he was married to a Kennedy.


    Re confiscation: It’s totally impossible without Gestapo tactics, e.g. door-to-door searches of all households without warrants, so I immediately lose respect for any anyone who says dumb shit like that. Because it’s A LIE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Ross Perot was pretty popular in Texas.

    You never know.


    That was in 1967. During the Nixon era.
    Yeah, i mean, hell. Maybe he COULD win as a third party candidate. Remember the whole Third Way thing?
    Mr. McC hasn't said much about specific issues, but i have a funny feeling he'd be in that ballpark, both from what i've read of his book, and the fact that he called himself an aggressive centrist.

    As far as Cali:
    True, regarding Reagan. i guess my writing was unclear, though.

    I was talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger in 03, wining Cali in the recall, and then winning another term.

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    Yes. See my edit, I missed the Arnold reference.

    Remember that Reagan and Arnold were/are both ACTORS … in Hollywood. The populist attraction won them the seat far over any party affiliation.


    Re now, Texas (or any state): There are voters who refuse to vote for any Democrat. It’s ingrained in their respective psyches. Just like Democrats who refuse to vote for any Republican, ever. Even if it’s someone they really like. But if someone runs as an independent in a state race, you really don’t need big party backing.

    Bill Walker (Alaska), Lincoln Chafee (Rhode Island), Charlie Crist (Florida), Jesse Ventura (3rd Party, Minnesota), Angus King (Maine),
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Yes. See my edit, I missed the Arnold reference.

    Remember that Reagan and Arnold were/are both ACTORS … in Hollywood. The populist attraction won them the seat far over any party affiliation.


    Re now, Texas (or any state): There are voters who refuse to vote for any Democrat. It’s ingrained in their respective psyches. Just like Democrats who refuse to vote for any Republican, ever. Even if it’s someone they really like. But if someone runs as an independent in a state race, you really don’t need big party backing.

    Bill Walker (Alaska), Lincoln Chafee (Rhode Island), Charlie Crist (Florida), Jesse Ventura (3rd Party, Minnesota), Angus King (Maine),
    Good examples, regarding running as an independent.

    ALSO
    Speaking of Arnold's connections, i read today that Arnold supposedly asked Ted Kennedy for advice on his California campaign, and TK told him something like BE VAUGE ABOUT EVERYTHING.
    Perhaps McConaughey could use a similar strategy to build a strong backing.

    I hope he runs.
    It might seem cartoonish, but he also might seriously be able to right the ship.

    Hell, i keep hoping Tom Hanks will run for president.
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    Beto continues to fail and Dems continue to run him and it's the most dem shit ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wretchedest View Post
    Beto continues to fail and Dems continue to run him and it's the most dem shit ever
    Yeah, why is he running? What is he THINKING?

    I remember that quote in fucking slow motion:
    "Heellllllllll yeeeeeesssss weeeeeeeee're taaaaaaaaaaking yooouuuuur guuuuuuns,"
    And I was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

    Got DAMN, Beto. You just wrote the Republican's commercials against you for the rest of your fucking life.

    The only way he can win ANYTHING is by solemnly backpedaling on that shit.
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