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Faceplams: "Who you callin' dork, friend?"Originally Posted by tony.parente
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Sure, but that never stopped him from polling well. I mean, that dude was the front runner, and now he's leaving Iowa with zero delegates? Fucking ZERO? I don't like him, but I assumed he'd do better than that. What the hell happened to all his support?
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It’s the Iowa caucus. Anything can happen. Wait until SC and Super Tuesday.
As an aside for the people poking fun at Biden’s stammering, we really do need to nip that convo in the bud because it’s poking fun at a disability.
Biden has fought a stuttering issue his whole life.
https://www.vox.com/2019/12/20/21031...ocratic-debate
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...rofile/602401/
Last edited by allegro; 02-05-2020 at 11:55 AM.
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We're resorting to coin tosses...
https://www.businessinsider.com/iowa...mjs59Lwei-Pxec
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Anything to keep Sanders from getting the nomination... SOCIALISM!! Lol
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This coin toss is not shady at all, am I right?
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totally normal coin toss, yes. I don't know about you but I always check to see what the coin will show before I flip it over, it's only fair!
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Latest news, delegates of Black Hawk County that should've been Bernie's, who received 2,149 voters, 155 Country Delegates, but they were instead given to Deval Patrick who received 0 aka ZERO votes. Chris Schwartz, Black Hawk County's supervisor, had to take to Twitter to get this information out. This information was known and verified for 24 hours, but the state never fixed it. The Iowa Dems Twitter posted that there will be a correction in the new results. Schwartz offered the press to DM him.
This is the kinda shit going on in Iowa. The state is botching this up badly.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2020/02/05/iowa-democratic-party-reports-iowa-caucus-results-with-errors/4672474002/
Last edited by neorev; 02-05-2020 at 08:32 PM.
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You should check out the Iowa Democrats Twitter comments, other people finding mistakes and vote swaps. It's literally taking Twitter commenters to find these mistakes. One user found multiple errors.
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ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
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I also want to flag this now - California is going to take DAYS to count all of their votes from Super Tuesday, so just be ready for that now.
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You are quoting some random Twitter person. Maybe you forgot the part where I clearly wrote to go to the Iowa Democrats comment section as they have been updating their results after errors were found by commenters, NOT some random woman commenting on her wall no one has heard of. I have no clue who Lulu is or what she is talking about. I'm talking about verified errors that Iowa saw and updated their results afterwards. Perhaps, you should do some better research. These are their own spreadsheets linked with clear errors on their page being pointed out. Commenters were putting up screenshots of Iowa Dem's own website with their errors where number were swapped or in the wrong columns. Not a conspiracy theory, but factual verified errors on their website.
You were so quick to wanting to shout about conspiracy theories, that you didn't do anything that I actually said in my post.
Here is the guy on Iowa Democrats comments who helped them point out a few of their mistakes...
He first spotted that Swapped Patrick's (left) and Bernie's (right) columns in the rows between WL 3-4 and WL 4-2 and switched Steyer and Warren's results for the same rows.
https://twitter.com/PhilJamesson/sta...81352053628930
Another error WL 4-6
https://twitter.com/PhilJamesson/sta...82376348803072
Another issue in Walnunt/Grimes/Grant...
https://twitter.com/PhilJamesson/sta...84517171924994
His errors were verified by Iowa Democrats and updated.
Again, read the comments here, people are combing through their stats for error...
https://twitter.com/iowademocrats/st...77439720083462
ENOUGH WITH THE QUOTING SOME RANDOM CRAZY TWITTER PERSON THINKING YOU'RE MAKING A POINT.
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P.S. Bernie is now closing in on Pete.
Last edited by neorev; 02-05-2020 at 11:55 PM.
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Not conspiracy mongering, but I'm gonna triple down on the lack of self awareness by various components of the Democratic party. Anyone worth their salt in that business already knew that this narrative was going to be a thing.
Intellectually speaking, I know that, effectively Bernie and Buttigieg tied. They get the same number of delegates. Bernie may have the popular vote. Bernie could easily end up on top, being 3 points away.
But it *feels* like Buttigieg handily one. His picture adorning the thumbnails of so many media sites proclaiming his victory. Hell even the conspiracy narrative just makes it *feel* like he won.
Frustrating bit of cognitive dissonance
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Ben Jacobs is the reporter who was assaulted by Greg Gianforte.
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Gross incompetence mixed with opportunism led to part of the reason why results were delayed - Trump supporters flooded the Iowa Caucus reporting phone line when the number was posted online. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-democrat-says
Needless to say, I think we've shown here that caucuses aren't effective anymore and that Iowa shouldn't go first again next time.Supporters of President Donald Trump flooded a hotline used by Iowa precinct chairs to report Democratic caucus results after the telephone number was posted online, worsening delays in the statewide tally, a top state Democrat told party leaders on a conference call Wednesday night.
According to two participants on the call, Ken Sagar, a state Democratic central committee member, was among those answering the hotline on caucus night and said people called in and expressed support for Trump. The phone number became public after people posted photos of caucus paperwork that included the hotline number, one of the people on the call said.
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Great to see 2020 is shaping up to be a normal one.
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Trump benefits from chaos. We’re so fucked.
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I'm seeing a few folks posting stuff from Pelosi's primary challenger, but I think we're underestimating the gamesmanship that took place with the SOTU because Trump has lost the narrative right now between Nancy shredding her copy of his speech and Romney voting to convict.
The winner of the Dem primary is going to have to compete on this level to get the base fired up and being able to get the media to eat out of their hands.
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Look at it this way: this was the first one. Get the clusterfuck out of the way at the beginning. This should put EVERY state on notice: tighten it up as best as you can with the funds you have at your disposal. Spend every penny of your election security budget and do it wisely. Is it too late for that? Maybe. But there isn't a state election official anywhere in the other 49 envious of Iowa.
The DNC needs to pressure caucus states to switch to typical primaries. Fuck your tradition. If you want tradition put on a festival. There is too much at stake to keep fucking around with this luddite method.
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Minnesota has this weird thing going on now where we've switched over to a primary format, but only for the presidential race. Everything else, like the senate races, etc, will still be done through local caucuses. I actually didn't learn about this until very recently, and I was highly annoyed.
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I’m love what Pelosi did but the other side is trying everything to give it to trump again.
Trump has the entire gop tipping towards him, doing what ever he wants. I feel like he’s gonna rig it in every way possible. There’s reports that call lines in Iowa were jammed by trump supporters are interesting. What is the point of that? Who told them to do that and what the fuck is wrong with them that they want to do it? It seems un-American and waste of time. The only person who benefits is trump.
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I'm talking about this Lulu person being quoted. No clue who she is or why anyone should care what she has to say. She was debunked in very her own comments. But you shared the post like that somehow negates the real errors being found and painted the errors as simply conspiracy theory. If you cannot see the problem with that, then we are fucked. This is the kind of gloss over stuff that allows this stuff to go unnoticed. Just paint everyone as a conspiracy theorist by quoting some random loon who doesn't know what she is talking about so the real errors get ignored.
Last edited by neorev; 02-06-2020 at 01:03 PM.
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I'm a Democrat, but I'm sorry, Pelosi is so full of shit. She does these bullshit on screen news clip moments like clapping at Trump and ripping up his speech, but still goes ahead and hands him loads of money for war and gives him everything he wants. Then, we applaud her for ripping up some papers and call her the resistance for clapping. I also saw Pelosi stand up and applaud Trump and the bullshit going on in Venezuela. Reps and Dems love their coups.
Last edited by neorev; 02-06-2020 at 01:17 PM.
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Is Pelosi up for election in 2020?
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Every House seat is up in 2020 and something like 30 Senate seats.
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Did you see the video of Pete creepily smiling not answering questions about declaring victory in Iowa?
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"A Pete Buttigieg adviser tweeted Wednesday the importance of getting the former South Bend, Indiana, mayor’s record in the military out to the people of Nevada, and the message looked an awful lot like he was trying to get around federal anti-coordination rules that prevent campaigns from sharing strategy and messaging with outside groups."
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...zlZgqhvEQO5__4
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Look, Pete is junk but this criticism is really grasping at straws. The body of the article even says it's not illegal and calls the rules "murky".
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GOP lawmaker shreds Democratic resolution on House floor
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...PbUVKH0tyxxCcM
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