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Faceplams: well, they are. Have you seems RSD lines?Originally Posted by Star
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well, they are. Have you seems RSD lines?
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I have a cd player, 3 in fact, however, I have yet to see an official release of a CD. The official release from TR himself is vinyl. I am not buying form some online store I never heard of. Unless it is from NIN.com or Amazon verified, not interested in something that may not be official. Last i checked there were no cds for the first two right? It was all downloads or vinyl? So, why would there be a CD now? Just because some website claims to be selling it? Well according to TR on NIN.com all there is, is vinyl.
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The vinyl mission statement has been up there since NTAE came out. At the time, there was no CD or plans for one. Then months later there was. And so too did Add Violence get one. This will be no different.
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Can we get a NIN cover of Anything Can Happen on Halloween?WORST WITCH:
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I'd be interested to know if Gen Z (I think I'm a millennial, though almost as old as you can be as a millennial) is buying vinyl. I'm guessing eventually vinyl will die out too, unless kids like 21 and younger are buying it. (I really hate the idea of there never being physical releases like, suddenly, when I'm middle aged, but I'm guessing it'll happen.)
That said, I barely had any vinyl as a teenager. NIN was one of my earlier vinyl purchases as a semi-autonomous teenager. I didn't even have that many but it was fun to have a giant copy of the artwork and to have something to stare at even if I just listened on CD or on the computer. I now have at least 300 records.
I generally notice that if I'm sitting near my turntable, not distracted by anything, I do engage more with the music. It tends to be background music if I'm half-paying attention to it while I'm on my phone. So I actually feel like the vinyl statement is ... not ridiculous. It could work for CDs but I haven't had a CD player in forever since they're just lossless files on a disc.
Let NIN be your gateway to buying a big ass cardboard poster with some floppy joy frisbees inside. You can still get the CD from Rough Trade and probably nearly everywhere else. Today's a great day.
Last edited by Pbgut; 05-10-2018 at 10:05 PM.
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capitol records released AV on CD and Universal released NTAE on CD. both were great quality packaging and matched the vinyl artwork and layouts. also they were each around $10 in the US.
Last edited by snichols; 05-10-2018 at 10:02 PM.
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The vinyl mission statement remains one of the most hilariously pretentious things ever wafted upon us by King Trent
It's super cool that we're hashing out Vinyl vs CD in this thread. I'm glad we are finally getting around to covering this neglected issue.
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It literally was announced today, not every link is live yet. And nin.com only sells vinyl, which is why there's no CD there.
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I think it's mostly being hashed out in the context of "why is this other person upset/bitching?" the most pressing and eternal question of all civilizations and message boards since the dawn of time.
But more seriously, I feel like the vinyl statement basically amounts to "please don't treat my musc as background music. Engage with it like you would if you didn't have more tech in front of you than I ever thought possible when I made half of this." That's all. It's maybe worded in a certain way that seems to irritate a lot of people but I think the underlying message is sincere and understandable.
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Closer to God was my first Nails CD. I 'borrowed' it from my younger brother who bought it by accident thinking it was something else. I've been hooked ever since.
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Love the artwork posted. I am happy Trent and Atticus finished these 3 ep's up. I would of been bummed if they ditched it to release a whole different LP.
I am interested in it's conclusion.
Does anyone else sorta laugh at the first track being called Shit Mirror? I am sure it will be awesome, it just made me laugh.
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As I said, mine too, but some more detail: My grandmother bought it for me when I was almost 10 and I listened to it all day. I will never forget hearing the opening of Closer to God on my Gateway 2000. I later moved the disc to my parents stereo; it was too mind blowing to listen to on tiny speakers. I had never heard anything like that — in a strange way those remixes for me were like truly psychedelic music. How else would I have heard Coil in suburban NJ before the internet as a child than via Trent Reznor?
There were some sounds on the last NIN remixes that sounded oddly like a screen door creaking to my untrained 9 year old ears. I knew my mom would not be happy when she came home, as she didn't approve of NIN and I kept anxiously waiting for her to come home. Later that day, my mom confiscated the CD (she thought the lyrics were too offensive) and I had to resort to secretly dubbing NIN cassettes from friends for a year until she finally came around on it. Aaaand here we are 24 years later.
Last edited by Pbgut; 05-10-2018 at 10:25 PM.
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Broken is only on vinyl on the website so clearly it has never and will never be on CD
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So wait, your whole point was you were upset you couldn't listen to new NIN on CD and you didn't realize the first 2 EPs were on CD? Or did you think that because they weren't being sold on nin.com they were what? Bootlegs? You're either oblivious or... special. It's blatantly obvious, given the vinyl mission statement and the lack of CDs being sold on the official store, that CD isn't a priority for TR. But alas they definitely exist... like EVERY SINGLE OTHER Nine Inch Nails album since '89. Christ man.
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I can't believe that there is someone complaining the day that a full ALBUM, not an EP as expected, but a full ALBUM is announced about a cd not being made available yet. Like, calm down dude. Not every site has links up yet. You can bitch and moan after June 22nd about the lack of a CD.
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I don't totally understand it but there's this weird feeling of elitism people are getting from the vinyl thing. Vinyl is sold at Barnes and Noble now. It's the least hipster, exclusive thing ever. Amazon sells them in special mailers. My parents were schoolteachers and I live in the suburbs with them and I still love vinyl. I'm not sure what the vinyl angst is about really - it's more than just "I don't have a record player" and I don't get it.
(Also: cassettes are the true hipster format these days, though that may be waning. And also most of the hipster millenials I knew are in their late 20s to mid 30s and are not really hipsters anymore.)
Shit mirror.
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Translation: “I’m too good to listen to the 5in single.”
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Could we please not talk CD vs Vinyl again here? It happened every single time since the vinyl mission statement.
CD will come out, maybe a little later than vinyl. We've beaten this horse to death already when NTAE came out.
Please, let's move on.
And seriously, for a fine piece of memorabilia (even if you can't play it) and a hi-res audio download of the new album from one of your favorite bands, if not the most, costs $20.
I kinda get the bitching for Deviations 1 since it was like, $80, although I don't necessarily agree with you guys, but for $20? You guys cannot shell out $20 for fucking new NIN and you're here?
Last edited by Lerxto; 05-10-2018 at 10:42 PM.
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I've been a vinyl collector for quite a long time now, but Nine Inch Nails were always the group I still got on CD since I had acquired so much of a collection. Since Not the Actual Events on CD was released, I haven't gone back to go pick up Add Violence and NTAE on CD. Heck, I don't even own those on vinyl ... but I do own PHM, Broken, TDS and the Fragile on wax finally. I should eventually go pick up all the newest stuff on CD at some point and decide which of the new EPs (and this new album!) I want to own on vinyl. I'm usually a stickler for waiting till I actually hear an album before I order the vinyl these days.
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I love everything about this album so far. I can't wait until June 22nd.
That said, I truly hope they don't release any music until the 22nd. I want to listen to Bad Witch the first time in it's entirety. By the time Add Violence was released, I'd already heard half of it. As stoked as I was to listen early, NTAE dropping all at once was a better experience. I remember being in awe listening to those 5 songs over and over at 1am trying to soak them all in. I would love to repeat that experience on June 22nd. And no, I don't have the will power to wait if tracks are release early.
Last edited by Jordan; 05-10-2018 at 11:09 PM.
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This. Also, in addition to being $80, Deviations was explicitly stated to be vinyl-only limited release, so it made sense then. Here, the argument is a dead horse because people are assuming that because the CD is not available at the nin.com store (neither is the CD for any other NIN album) the CD will not exist, despite the contrary being repeatedly pointed out.
Last edited by Patrick_Nicholas; 05-10-2018 at 10:56 PM. Reason: Emphasis on why it made sense with Deviations
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Guys...let's stop feeding the troll.
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Yeah. Stay on topic: the record that was announced 14 hours ago that you haven’t heard yet.
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Yeah seriously we've (myself included) been posting so much and this is really all speculation. Maybe it'll be moved to another thread since we have over a month.
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For a CD V Vinyl argument, heres a cool 50 page thread about it, that way we dont have to do a 50 page thread about it here
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/thread...-vinyl.327633/
Personally I think both are cool. Vinyl obviously is cool because of the whole presentation of it and some vinyl does sound better than CDs and CDs are still cool because they are still more convenient and have excellent audio quality and its kind of hard to listen to vinyl in my car or listen to my 300 NIN bootleg cds/cdrs in a vinyl setting...Theres enough room in the music world for CD and vinyl.
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Shit.
Mirror.
Anyone else thinking this track HAS to be an instrumental?
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01 Shit Mirror
02 Ahead of Ourselves
03 Play the Goddamned Part
04 God Break Down the Door
05 I’m Not From This World
06 Over and out
Anyone else think these are some of the most non NIN-esque song titles ever?
Like if I didn't know any better I'd think they're a joke
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Perhaps. Then again , a mirror reflecting in a mirror of a lie might be a shit mirror. I guess it depends on the interpretation. I am super ready for this though. A whole month away...
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If it's anything like most of the last few albums it'll be a brief instrumental segue into the next track
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